My one and only Samsung, a P2370HD only has NOW/NEXT for a guide, I kind of assumed all Samsungs were similar, so it sounds like mine is kind of a anomaly? Too bad as I like a good PSIP guide and have to use my Vizio, which both of mine have a very good guide that goes out as far as the stations send out. My 28" LG also lacks any kind of guide and now that TVGOS is gone my Sony only shows the current program Oh my Panasonic LCD has no guide, not even current program is displayed!
Not true Questy7. I chatted with Samsung today and she said ALL Samsung HDTVs have EPG. I have 5 Samsung HDTVs and they all have EPG (from 19" to 50"). As for Coby - they are freshly out of business now. I also have one Olevia HDTV, and excellent set but they went out of business. It only gives info on the current program.
I was on here searching for the answer to the question about what is the best smart TV for USA OTA. I can tell you that it is NOT the 2013 line of SAMSUNGs. These people really dropped the ball on OTA/EPG. The 2013 line has a setup so that you can integrate your set top box with it with IR blasters, etc. This seems retro to me. If you have a set top box selected -- then the smart hub home screen shows a preview of what's on cable/sat and has interactive graphics of what's on primetime, what's next up, etc. Very pretty. Here is the STUPID part. If you choose OTA or cable without a box the system then comes up with NO channels for your zip code (cable without box) or for OTA just your antenna lineup and gives you ONLY cheap/lame PSIP guide data. The pretty Smart Hub screen you get when you choose cable box is lost completely. I even tried zip codes for NYC, LA, Silicon Valley -- all useless for OTA/cable w/out box.
I have called to complain to Samsung a few times about this and they "just don't get it."
If I choose cable without a box it should at very least grab the lineup used for digital cable (same lineup it uses if you have a box) and this will at least provide REAL EPG for my locals and basic cable channels.
If I choose OTA, it should grab data from the TMS online service and align it with the call letters I have in my market.
It blows my mind that they didn't get this right.
Every few months (and after SW updates) I retry initial setup and am disappointed each time.
If you want decent OTA TV listings in the USA I'd avoid Samsung TVs.
If you choose cable box then it uses Rovi data and you get all the pretty features.
If you choose cable without box, or OTA you get screwed and all you see is useless 12-hour (if you're lucky) one channel at a time PSIP.
Bottom line is ANY smart TV (designed properly) should always populate its EPG from a Rovi or TMS type of service over PSIP whenever possible. PSIP should be an absolute last resort.
Give it a try. Enter your zip and choose CABLE BOX and you get pretty/full EPG features. Choose OTA or no box and get crap PSIP only. As stated in my previous post I tried numerous zip codes -- all with the same bad results. Including NYC and LA zips.
Oh well. Samsung should fix this.
Since ROVI went belly-up I am given to understand that Samsung and Sony TVs no longer have EPGs. Are there any that do? I am doing OTA TV so even one that gets info from the OTA signal (PSIP) would be just fine.
I haven't really kept up on what new TVs have the PSIP guide feature but for starters I'd look for a TV that has a GUIDE button on the remote, if it does it has a good possibility of having a PSIP guide.
Both my Vizio TVs have a GUIDE button and a nice 7 day(or however far out your local stations go) guide but I've noticed many/all? new Vizios lack the very handy PSIP guide function
PSIP info is station/broadcaster dependant. Just because the remote has a "Guide" button does not mean all the desired info will be there.
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I use TitanTV and can continue to do so but it's not quite as easy as pressing the Guide button on my old Vizio TV which has a good full (all that's available from the broadcaster) OTA PSIP generated EPG. Also, I have 3 other sources (tuners) that grab it but they are all old devices. I also could use Windows Media Center on Win 7 but it's not as convenient as that trusty Guide button and may not last much longer. I am looking to the future for when I replace the old Vizio.
Fortunately, where I am, all the broadcasters that are required (by FCC) to send the EPG data do most of the time. So it is quite a simple matter with the old TV to check what's coming on without having to turn on yet another device. I've got way too much junk already in my entertainment center which looks like a badly damaged Borg ship. I'm having to keep too much old stuff already in order to play older media and keep the functionality of the older devices.
Anyway, thought maybe someone here might have shopped for a TV lately and could relate what they have discovered regarding EPG.
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Nor my wife for that matter!
As I said in one of the first posts, if no one can tell you what TVs have the PSIP guide option then I'd just look for a TV who's remote had a GUIDE button. It won't be a guarantee it has the PSIP guide feature but it's a good start. Also from my experience it's far more likely a lesser known or cheaper brand will have the PSIP guide vs one of the giants like Sony, Samsung, LG, etc. For what ever reason in my experience they basically never have the PSIP guide option.
Good luck on your quest!
It just amazes me one has to spend less, or at least purchase a lesser known brand, to gain a feature like a PSIP guide
FYI, this TV also has a built in casting(or mirroring) feature, similar to chromecast. I was helping her set the channels & her kids where both competing to cast videos from their tablets.
Well it was mine a couple years back(BF purchase) but I was so put off by it's sub standard picture quality and other quirks, I was going to return it. My father ended up wanting it and has been happy with it ever since.
Like I said before, for what ever reason you have a much better chance of the TV having a good PSIP guide function, if it's cheap
Of course it sounds like oc-rdx's sister has a recent Samsung with a nice guide and Samsung is defiantly not cheap nor a no name brand, a model number would be helpful to dmatch and whoever else wants a brand name TV with a guide function. I'm also somewhat in the market for a 55"+ model and would consider a PSIP guide to be a selling point as I'm OTA only.