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Comcast is encrypting my local channels next month and I just want HD reception for a few local channels without renting a box.I live in a condo on second floor but my Samsung 8500 is not near a window.Antenna web site for my area(Beverly Ma.) says few channels i want are in the Yellow so all i need is a small antenna to get them.Any suggestions and should i get a plug in antenna or not.Thanks

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Post your tv fool results so we can see what reception is like in your area.
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How far are you from the antenna's?
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Im about 20 miles from towers

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Post your tv fool results so we can see what reception is like in your area.
Channel I want has a 54 nm stating indoor antenna should be fine

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Then any antenna with better than a -54 dB gain should work, perhaps a paper clip?

Seriously, your TVFool plot contains valuable information that is used to select appropriate antennas. Unless you want to just try something randomly, allow the members to assist you by giving some pertinent details such as channels desired along with the TVFool plot.

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I live about 25 miles (as the crow flies) from the antenna farm in my area I have a Terk powered antenna it picks up everything for me. Antenna Pro
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Thanks,could tell me which Terk powered model you use?Quite a few on Amazon.

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I think the Terk HDTVi/HDTVa performs better than their flat panel versions. If you don't need the amp, get the HDTVi.
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Thanks,could tell me which Terk powered model you use?Quite a few on Amazon.

There's a lot more to good indoor reception than just distance from the towers. TVFool will save you time and money if you just post it here so folks can help you make an informed decision.
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So computer illiterate that Ive done the TVFool test but cant figure out how to post the results in my thread reply.

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Here are the results for your location. The transmitter database was last updated on July 12, 2013. For more information about these plots and how to interpret them, please check out the Signal Analysis FAQ.

If you would like to share these results with others, this page can be referenced as:


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http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae431a648df7 Thanks for help.This is the result from TVFool.I live on the second floor in a condo and TV in a room with no windows.Only channel Im interested in is local channel 4(WBZ) CBS Network in HD

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All of your main channels come from one direction and appear to be on UHF, so no rabbit ears are required. Just an old loop antenna or bow tie looking thing. How strong it needs to be depends on your building construction. Metal siding, stucco, and thick concrete walls will require a SouthWest facing window. If you have a wall on that side without a neighboring condo in the way just about anything should work as long as you keep it above head level. Walking about in front of a low antenna can cause dropouts. If you have this inside do you wan't something aesthetically pleasing or are you fine with an outdoor antenna on a stand?
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Outside is not an option at my condo so inside and not that particular about how it looks.

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Not to take away from the OP, but the topic is exactly what I wanted to ask. Which indoor antenna (if any) would you recommend for this location?

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaed74dae21

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Not to take away from the OP, but the topic is exactly what I wanted to ask. Which indoor antenna (if any) would you recommend for this location?

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaed74dae21

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You must be around hills and mountains, all of your signals are multipath. I wouldn't use an indoor antenna, but a combination of antennas in an East facing window, closet or attic if you have one. For your high VHF signals in the green a rabbit ear off any old TV spread to 30" flat might work. For NBC and other UHF stations I would use at least a four bowtie stacked antenna with a reflector. I believe the Channel Master model was 4221. Try them with a VHF/UHF combiner or a pre-amp such as the CM7778 (old stock not new) depending on how far away/splits your televisions are.
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If I were you, I would try the four bay antenna by itself first with just a cable to the TV. It may pick up VHF well enough by itself, probably not. If not then add VHF antenna, combiner, pre-amp, etc.
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Not to take away from the OP, but the topic is exactly what I wanted to ask. Which indoor antenna (if any) would you recommend for this location?

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaed74dae21

Thanks

If you want to try an "indoor" antenna, the Winegard SS-3000 would have a chance, but I doubt it would work consistently. mirayge is right. Go big after the yellow UHF signals first and add a VHF antenna later if needed. Good Luck.
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I live in Northern VA - not a lot of mountains here. Oh well. Thanks for the advice.

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I live in Northern VA - not a lot of mountains here. Oh well. Thanks for the advice.
Try Clearstream 2V from Walmart or Best Buy. Or Terk HDTVi/HDTVa.
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I live in Northern VA - not a lot of mountains here. Oh well. Thanks for the advice.

Something there is bouncing your signal off another object, which is why I thought a stronger antenna would work better. The more elements it has the more focussed it will be and reject out of sync reception. In the old days it caused dual image "ghosting." Now it makes your signal jump around and causes that bad DVD like effect. A scratched disk and multipath do the same thing for the same reasons.
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Sounds like bottom line is try rabbit ears and if you get nothing thats probably the story and no use going up the price chain if you are in a room with no windows.

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As the wavelengths are small enough, you could always do a DIY stacked rombic around the ceiling. You could probably get 4 or 5 lambda, which gives very good gain. Of course, any metal obstructions will still cause you a big problem. Rabbit ears are for VHF and FM, the little loop is for UHF.
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Sounds like bottom line is try rabbit ears and if you get nothing thats probably the story and no use going up the price chain if you are in a room with no windows.

Here's an ugly reception solution aiming into a building:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1372416/chattanooga-tn-got-atlanta-but-few-locals/30

If your televisions signal meter reads zero, it doesn't always mean no signal is present. Signal from multiple directions, known as multipath, may be not allowing your tuner to lock audio and video. It's very common indoors.
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I live about 25 miles from my local stations as well, and they were just sure I'd be able to use an indoor antenna and it'd be fine. Well....it wasn't . I struggled to get them to come in. Finally I broke down and did a bunch of research before setting on a ClearStream 4 by Antennas direct. I figured I could put it in my garage and still pick up the signal great since I wasn't that far away. Worked like a charm!

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Unfortunately Ive had the same experience.Tried a simple,cheap Target GE loop,rabbit ears antenna and I got nothing at all.My room with no windows must be a signal killer even though TV Fool said I should have no issues.

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Posting my TVFool results as well - thanks in advance for the advice. Sorry I'm too ignorant to read the plot myself - new territory, but I'm eager to shut off Comcast. My Bluray collection with Netflix streaming and AppleTV will do just fine. And it encourages me to head out for football games :)

 

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Try a simple, inexpensive loop and rabbit ears placed in front of a south-west facing window. The Radio Shack 15-1874 or the RCA ANT-112R are good examples of what is recommended

Under no circumstances, buy one with an amplifier and do not fall for ANY of the marketing hype/crap on any of the packaging from any of the companies. Some companies (Mohu come to mind) are far better at making promises than they are at making a good antenna.
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