Ok I'm still meeting with Motorola tomorrow morning. I will be armed with this post and some e-mails I have recieved regaurding specific issues.
I do have some questions though on the above posts:Red Push.
Does a mass majority of you notice this "red push", or is it just the few that have listed it here? I'm asking because some might think they are seeing a red push because they are now looking for it because its been posted here. (sorta of like someone telling you that they have seen an awful lot of red cars on the road, now you start to notice all red cars that drive by, making you think there are more red cars on the road)
I've had four 5100's in my possession and have installed & serviced over 50 more in the field and have yet to notice any "red push" on any of them. Could you point me to a specific instance where this occurs possibly on the PBS loop, or does it happen on every HD channel all of the time? And in any cases has this been your only 5100, or have you had more than one and it was the same with both?Audio
T.Wells --- Are you sure you mean LOW Audio output on Analog & not Digital?
I've done some more testing and this is what I have found:
The audio set up menu (which is the same as the 2000) does not effect the audio output on analog channels at all regaurdless of your method of audio transfer (SPDIF, RF, L/R analog)
It seems, the setup menu only changes audio output when watching a digital channel through an analog output (L/R, or RF). This means the box does nothing to the audio when it goes through the SPDIF outputs, on Digital channels. Does this sound correct?
Another test I did was to compare audio output volume from 3 different sources:
Samsung sir-t150 OTA HD decoder using Optical Audio & L/R (ana)
Panasonic DVD/VCR Player using Coax Digital Audio & L/R (ana)
Motorola DCT5100 using Optical Audio & L/R (ana)
All running through an Onkyo TX-SR600 A/V receiver
Samsung Decoder had NO volume difference between Digital & Analog
Samsung Decoder & DCT5100 had NO volume difference between the same broadcast stations ABC, NBC, PBS
Panasonic DVD/VCR had no difference between Digital & Analog
DCT5100 had a 10 db (+/- 3db) INCREASE between Digital channels & Analog Channels on the Optical output
DCT5100 had a SIMILAR volume output between Digital channels & Analog Channels when the L/R analog output was used and the Compression (Audio setup menu) was set to Heavy, any other selection in the audio setup menu revealed a LOWER volume on the Digital channels as the Analog channels continued to stay at the same volume.
Through all of the tests the volume on the receiver was exactly the same and the Processor was set to Pro-Logic II & Stereo with no changes in results.
It seems that the 5100 is doing something to the volume of the Audio on the SPDIF outputs but only on the analog channels. Anyone else do any testing similar to this?HDTV Darkness.
I have noticed that the HD channels are darker than the Analog of the same broadcast but this is also true on my Samsung OTA Decoder. There is no difference in Picture Brightness/Darkness between my 5100 & Samsung, they are EXACTLY the same. I always thought that HD programming was generally Darker so it can look Truer, Warmer, Better, ect. Can anyone back this up with Raw Data?Problem Entering Channels.
I haven't noticed this on my setup, but I will bring it up. Is this happening only using the IR Blast on the 5100?
The remotes that are used are supplied to us by One For All
and most of their codes are the same, for most of their models so try there first.Enabling the Video inputs on the 5100.
I believe these are in the works, I will find out tomm.
Stretching / Zooming the Letterboxed -- 4:3 broadcasts.
I've heard that Motorola may be doing another firmware update to allow you to stretch the 4:3 material to fit your widescreen TV, but I haven't heard anything about zooming. I think this is something that is up in the air. As you have all probably noticed most TV manufactures have decided not to let the consumer modify 720 or 1080. by using their zoom or stretch functions when the TV sees a 720 or 1080 signal. (Mitsubishi being the only exception, I know of). I don't know the reasoning for this, but when I saw a Mitsu stretch a 4:3 Broadcast from one of the 5100's HD channels the picture looked very distorted. It was better than the Analog picture as far as detail but was annoying to look at.
When Motorola did the update it never actually changed the ability of the box to output Graphic overlays onto all outputs, the Analog outputs still DO NOT get Graphic Overlays when the box is in 1080i. So essentially they made one straight forward change to fix multiple problems at about 97% effectiveness. Rather than making 3-4 different changes for 100% effectiveness.Analog Picture
Its still bad. It got better after the update, but still not near the PQ of the Sidecar & the 2000. I can see the Analog PQ is much better on Direct View & 4:3 televisions, but this is generally a given anyway when view 4:3 material.
If there is anything else please post it by Midnight tonight 12/11. I will be printing it out around then. I will post what I found out from the rep. tomorrow.