Originally Posted by PhiloT
So it looks like even though the two flavors of this box are essentially identical, they are different with respect to the software they will run, for whatever reason. If I understand what you just described, it looks the "final" versions of the Hisense box are:
U.S. Digital (Wallyworld) FTA STB = 2.7.11(2.4.18-15) hardware db2010
USDTV/Hisense Subscription STB = 2.7.15(2.4.18-15) hardware db2020
There are indeed two boxes and PhiloT's information above is accurate. There are Walmart boxes (sometimes called US Digital boxes) and USDtv Subscription boxes.
You can not use the subscription flash on a Walmart box. You also can not use a Walmart flash on a subscription box. There is really no physical way to tell the difference. The only difference is the version found on the System Information screen. However, if you have the USDtv logo on the menus or you have the channel 99-1, then you have a subscription box. Or of course, if you reboot and it says to call USDTV to activate, then you have a subscription box.
As far as the Walmart (aka US Digital) boxes go, here is the info that I have seen:Prior to Walmart upgrade:
- Contained a System ID on the System Information page (xxxx-xxxx-xxxx)
- The software version was: 2.5.61 (2.4.18-7)
- The hardware version was db2010 on the System Information page
- The System Information page had an U S Digital logo on the lower right hand side of the page.
- There was no PIP on the channel guide page
- There was no Adjust Antenna menu option
The Walmart flash took a long time (like 7-10 mins). Much longer than the subscription flash & boxes (subscription upgrade was like 4-5 mins). The Walmart flash menu was not quite as nice as the subscription flash menu during the flash process.After the flash using the Walmart box:
- The System ID was no longer on the System Information page
- The software version was: 2.7.11 (2.4.18-15)
- The hardware version was db2020 on the System Information page
- The US Digital logo was gone from the System Information page
- We now have a PIP on the channel guide
- We now have the Adjust Antenna menu option.
After the flash, the software functionality on the Walmart box seemed to be the same as the flashed subscription box except for the version number. However, the number in ()'s are the same after the upgrade. Both the Walmart and subscription have 2.4.18-15 in the ()'s after the flash. All the other functions seemed to be the same.
There was talk about a USDtv tech telling someone about being built to have a hard disk. I opened up my box and there is definitely no header for a disk drive to connect to. It would be nice if a former USDtv engineer would get on here and straighten all of this out. But, that may not happen due to lack of motivation or legal regard.
I recommend the Walmart upgrade if you are still on the 2.5.61 version. The 2.7.11 is much better (but that is just my opinion). Also, I see that marsman now has the Walmart flash (item 170100949662) for sale. I suppose this is for those who do not want to or have the ability to create a stick themselves. So, if you buy one of these, make sure you know which one you need. I don't see that it is really made clear on the ebay listings.
Does anyone have the ability to create a simple wiki or website for this these little boxes that we seemed to be obsessed with? This thread is awesome, but newbie's will have to really read and dig to get the info out of it.