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Old 10-19-2007, 07:17 AM - Thread Starter
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Dallas, TX: Bad Reception. What Do I do

I was told to repost in this forum. I live in Dallas, zipcode is 75206

I hooked up my brand new Sony XBR4 last night with a Terk HD atennae and got horrible reception at my apartment. The only digital channel I was able to pick up was ABC HD, and it didn't look all that great. I also had to extend my antennae all the way outside balcony to get reception. Ok, what are my options at this point?. Should I try to get a better antennae?. Can I can local hd just by using the coaxial jack and not use the antennae?. Do I need to subscribe to Dish or Cable just to get local channels?

Please advise, I'm not impressed with what I've seen so far. Do I need to calibrate the TV as well. Sorry for the long post, I'm just a little frustrated and dissapointed. Thanks
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1) Terk antennas are overpriced junk.

2) Check antennaweb.org to see what channels are available to you, check the Digital Only channels and post the results here.

3) If your TV has a QAM tuner and you have basic cable, you may be able to get your locals via unencrypted QAM, wouldn't hurt to hook it up and do a channel scan. Check the manual for the specifics for hook up and scanning.

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Old 10-19-2007, 08:04 AM - Thread Starter
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Here are the results after putting in my address


Show All Stations Show Digital Stations Only Show Analog Stations Only


DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow - uhf KXAS-DT 5.1 NBC FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.6 41
* yellow - uhf KXTX-DT 40.1 TEL DALLAS TX 207° 22.6 40
* yellow - uhf KTVT-DT 11.1 CBS FORT WORTH TX 204° 22.6 19
* yellow - uhf KERA-DT 13.1 PBS DALLAS TX 204° 22.6 14
* yellow - uhf KDAF-DT 33.1 CW DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 32
* green - uhf KFWD-DT 52.1 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 51
* green - vhf WFAA-DT 8.1 ABC DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 9
* green - uhf KTXA-DT 21.1 IND FORT WORTH TX 202° 24.9 18
* green - uhf KUVN-DT 23.1 UNI GARLAND TX 207° 22.4 24
red - uhf KJJM-LP 46 FMN DALLAS TX 128° 10.3 46
red - uhf KATA-LP 60 FMN MESQUITE TX 128° 10.3 60
red - uhf KDTX 58 TBN DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 58
red - uhf KSTR 49 UNI IRVING TX 202° 24.9 49
* red - uhf KSTR-DT 49.1 UNI IRVING TX 202° 24.9 48
red - uhf KPXD 68 ION ARLINGTON TX 207° 22.4 68
* red - uhf KPXD-DT 68.1 ION ARLINGTON TX 208° 22.5 42
red - uhf KMPX 29 DAY DECATUR TX 268° 9.3 29
red - vhf KXAS 5 NBC FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 5
red - vhf KDTN 2 DAY DENTON TX 207° 22.4 2
* red - uhf KDTN-DT 2.1 DAY DENTON TX 202° 24.9 43
red - vhf WFAA 8 ABC DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 8
red - vhf KTVT 11 CBS FORT WORTH TX 204° 22.6 11
red - uhf KXTX 39 TEL DALLAS TX 207° 22.6 39
red - uhf KHPK-LP 28 UAT DE SOTO TX 207° 22.4 28
red - uhf KDAF 33 CW DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 33
red - uhf KFWD 52 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 52
red - uhf KTXA 21 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 21
red - uhf KUVN 23 UNI GARLAND TX 207° 22.4 23
red - vhf KERA 13 PBS DALLAS TX 204° 22.6 13
red - uhf KDFI 27 MNT DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 27
red - vhf KDFW 4 FOX DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 4
red - uhf KLDT 55 IND LAKE DALLAS TX 303° 16.0 55
blue - uhf KSEX-LP 57 IND DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 57
* blue - uhf KMPX-DT 30.1 DAY DECATUR TX 268° 9.3 30
* violet - uhf KDTX-DT 58.1 TBN DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 45
* violet - uhf KDFW-DT 4.1 FOX DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 35
* violet - uhf KDFI-DT 27.1 MNT DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 36
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The above listing is a conservative prediction of stations received. Depending on the specifics of your installation, you may be able to receive stations that do not appear in this list.
DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
red - uhf KJJM-LP 46 FMN DALLAS TX 128° 10.3 46
red - uhf KATA-LP 60 FMN MESQUITE TX 128° 10.3 60
red - uhf KDTX 58 TBN DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 58
red - uhf KSTR 49 UNI IRVING TX 202° 24.9 49
red - uhf KPXD 68 ION ARLINGTON TX 207° 22.4 68
red - uhf KMPX 29 DAY DECATUR TX 268° 9.3 29
red - vhf KXAS 5 NBC FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 5
red - vhf KDTN 2 DAY DENTON TX 207° 22.4 2
red - vhf WFAA 8 ABC DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 8
red - vhf KTVT 11 CBS FORT WORTH TX 204° 22.6 11
red - uhf KXTX 39 TEL DALLAS TX 207° 22.6 39
red - uhf KHPK-LP 28 UAT DE SOTO TX 207° 22.4 28
red - uhf KDAF 33 CW DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 33
red - uhf KFWD 52 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 52
red - uhf KTXA 21 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 21
red - uhf KUVN 23 UNI GARLAND TX 207° 22.4 23
red - vhf KERA 13 PBS DALLAS TX 204° 22.6 13
red - uhf KDFI 27 MNT DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 27
red - vhf KDFW 4 FOX DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 4
red - uhf KLDT 55 IND LAKE DALLAS TX 303° 16.0 55
blue - uhf KSEX-LP 57 IND DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 57
Note:
The above listing is a conservative prediction of stations received. Depending on the specifics of your installation, you may be able to receive stations that do not appear in this list.
DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow - uhf KXAS-DT 5.1 NBC FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.6 41
* yellow - uhf KXTX-DT 40.1 TEL DALLAS TX 207° 22.6 40
* yellow - uhf KTVT-DT 11.1 CBS FORT WORTH TX 204° 22.6 19
* yellow - uhf KERA-DT 13.1 PBS DALLAS TX 204° 22.6 14
* yellow - uhf KDAF-DT 33.1 CW DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 32
* green - uhf KFWD-DT 52.1 IND FORT WORTH TX 207° 22.4 51
* green - vhf WFAA-DT 8.1 ABC DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 9
* green - uhf KTXA-DT 21.1 IND FORT WORTH TX 202° 24.9 18
* green - uhf KUVN-DT 23.1 UNI GARLAND TX 207° 22.4 24
* red - uhf KSTR-DT 49.1 UNI IRVING TX 202° 24.9 48
* red - uhf KPXD-DT 68.1 ION ARLINGTON TX 208° 22.5 42
* red - uhf KDTN-DT 2.1 DAY DENTON TX 202° 24.9 43
* blue - uhf KMPX-DT 30.1 DAY DECATUR TX 268° 9.3 30
* violet - uhf KDTX-DT 58.1 TBN DALLAS TX 207° 22.4 45
* violet - uhf KDFW-DT 4.1 FOX DALLAS TX 208° 22.9 35
* violet - uhf KDFI-DT 27.1 MNT DALLAS TX 202° 24.9 36
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Ok, let's clarify your situation. Your long dump of antennaweb results does not help much. Are you interested in only the digital stations? Did you aim the Terk antenna towards the Dallas stations at around 207°? Exactly which model Terk antenna do you have?

Yoor digital stations are on UHF with one, WFAA-DT ABC 8, on upper VHF 9. So you need UHF and upper VHF coverage for starters.
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It also looks like all your stations are to your southwest. Hopefully you have southwest access.

You CAN put antennas on your owned and/or controlled property...
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

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Old 10-23-2007, 02:22 PM - Thread Starter
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Yes, I position my antenna towards the direction of the channels. I'm only interested in Digital Channels (hi-def). Most of my channels are towards the same direction. The Terk antenna I have is "Terk - Indoor Amplified HDTV Antenna Model: HDTVA"
Here's the link to the Best Buy website with the exact model. Should get a different Indoor antenna?. If so, which one is the best Indoor antenna that I can afford without paying too much.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1118844608800

I'm only able to get NBC and FOX, but not ABC and CBS. I'm basically interested in only these channels. Should I try to get the lowest analog cable package and hope to pick up these local channels using my ATSC/QAM tuner from my HDTV?. Please advise
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All hi-def channels are digital, but all digital channels are not hi-def.

And to make it even more confusing, most channels that show hi-def material don't only show hi-def.

Getting lifeline basic cable would certainly be the easiest and most hassle-free solution, if you don't mind paying the $15.00 or whatever price per month.

You could try a VHF/UHF model with a bit stronger amp, like the Radio Shack 15-1892. You probably wouldn't need the thing turned up all the way from only 23 miles, but you can experiment. There is even the possibility that, if you are using the amp in the HDTVa, it might be TOO strong for your situation. Try it without the amp also if you haven't already.

You do not have to have the VHF rabbit ears extended all the way out to get channel 9. For best reception of that channel (which is hi-VHF) try extending them only half way.

Hopefully when you say you are positioning the antenna towards the towers, you mean with an open view, and not through walls or buildings. Otherwise, that's your sticking point. It needs as clear a shot as possible - and getting the antenna as high up as possible (as long as it's still an open shot) can only help you more. Fully bloomed trees will hamper your signal considerably, also. And nearby trees and buildings (and airplanes constantly flying overhead, or even cars going by down below), even if they're not right in the immediate path, can cause multipath problems.
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Yes, I position my antenna towards the direction of the channels. I'm only interested in Digital Channels (hi-def). Most of my channels are towards the same direction. The Terk antenna I have is "Terk - Indoor Amplified HDTV Antenna Model: HDTVA"
Here's the link to the Best Buy website with the exact model. Should get a different Indoor antenna?. If so, which one is the best Indoor antenna that I can afford without paying too much.

For starters, WFAA-DT ABC 8 is on VHF 9. The smaller horizontal V shaped antenna is for UHF. If you have not experimented with the rabbit ears on the HDTVa, extend them less than half way in an open plane facing in the direction of the WFAA-DT station. See if that helps for getting ABC just as an experiment.

You are 20 to 25 miles from the broadcast towers, although you are in much flatter country than many of us which should help with the reception. You are likely to have to get a more substantial antenna, but finding the right one for apartment use for upper VHF and UHF reception can be a bit tricky. Have you asked for suggestions on the local thread for Dallas in the Local Reception forum?
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:33 PM - Thread Starter
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Well, I don't have a clear view towards the tower. I have the antenna sitting on the floor next to my TV facing the direction noted from antennaweb.org. I get NBC and FOX fine, but cannot get ABC or CBS. I will to play with extending the rabbit ears and see what happens.
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No wonder you're having reception problems what with the antenna on the floor. Get that antenna up high as you can, definately above your TV, and HDTV will rock like crazy for you for sure. However, you antenna had best have a hoop for UHF with it besides the rabbit ears since rabbit ears do best for the VHF channels. Most digital channels are on UHF channels. However, I don't know how Terk antennas look like.
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I did raise my indoor antenna (on the advice in this topic). It actually did improve my signal significantly.

KDFW seems to be a real bear for past few weeks. For some reason, that channel alone is just riddled with fluctuation and/or interference. About an hour ago, I did a check, and it was a steady 5 bars (which is normal for this channel on good days, for me). Right now, the signal is completely fubar...unwatchable. Nothing changed in my setup. It's like it hits 8 o'clock and then just takes a dump. The NBC channel, otoh, is utterly stellar and consistent. On my tv, I get a whopping 9 out of 10 bars, on that channel. I don't know what's up with KDFW, but I wish they would figure it out and fix it. They're really $h1tting the bed for a good while now.

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Please put a location in the title of ALL antenna help threads. See my edit.

Also please do us the courtesy of reading the stickies before posting. Especially the ones that say "read before posting."

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