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what has a better picture with Bluray/HD-DVD. A 1920x1200 LCD monitor connected to the best graphic cards on the market or a HDTV LCD.
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what has a better picture with Bluray/HD-DVD. A 1920x1200 LCD monitor connected to the best graphic cards on the market or a HDTV LCD.

HDTV. 1920x1200 would have letterboxing, and monitors are too small to give an immersive viewing experience. I don't even know what your question is asking, though. The best graphics cards on the market cost $1k+ and will have no benefit for just HD-media playback compared to fairly modest cards.
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1920x1200 letterboxed vs. 1920x1080 full screen
24" or 27" vs. >36"

Resolution is the same. Color varies greatly between displays you'll have to be precise.

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I would say a 1080p LCD HDTV with a BR/HD DVD player since no scaling or extra decoding or other PC based processing would be required.
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HDTV. 1920x1200 would have letterboxing, and monitors are too small to give an immersive viewing experience. I don't even know what your question is asking, though. The best graphics cards on the market cost $1k+ and will have no benefit for just HD-media playback compared to fairly modest cards.

what i meant was best picture quality in terms of color, resolution, detail, naturalness, contrast etc.. i had a Nvidia 9600GT video card and upgraded to a Nvidia 9800GX2 and the difference was like night and day in terms of overall picture quality. LCD monitors for desktops go up to 30 inches in size and when you sit 1-2 ft away from it you can get an immense viewing pleasure.
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what i meant was best picture quality in terms of color, resolution, detail, naturalness, contrast etc.. i had a Nvidia 9600GT video card and upgraded to a Nvidia 9800GX2 and the difference was like night and day in terms of overall picture quality. LCD monitors for desktops go up to 30 inches in size and when you sit 1-2 ft away from it you can get an immense viewing pleasure.

I'm repeating what someone else said. Where's the question here?
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what i meant was best picture quality in terms of color, resolution, detail, naturalness, contrast etc.. i had a Nvidia 9600GT video card and upgraded to a Nvidia 9800GX2 and the difference was like night and day in terms of overall picture quality. LCD monitors for desktops go up to 30 inches in size and when you sit 1-2 ft away from it you can get an immense viewing pleasure.

Well pretty much everything you described is dependant on the monitor/HDTV. Once you get into the $150+ video card range there's not really anymore gains to be had for media. All the card has to do is take the 1920x1080 signal that's already on the disc and pass it on. It's not like gaming where the card has to do massive amounts of on-the-fly processing. My HDTV answer stands. Unless your idea of a good movie night is sitting alone in front of a computer monitor..
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Well pretty much everything you described is dependant on the monitor/HDTV. Once you get into the $150+ video card range there's not really anymore gains to be had for media. All the card has to do is take the 1920x1080 signal that's already on the disc and pass it on. It's not like gaming where the card has to do massive amounts of on-the-fly processing. My HDTV answer stands. Unless your idea of a good movie night is sitting alone in front of a computer monitor..

that doesnt seem right because i had the Nvidia 9600GT and upgraded to the 9800GX2 and i played Bluray1080P on it and i saw a nicer picture with better colors and resolution. the card must obviously do something right there. being up close to my LCD monitor i can get a good view of the details of the picture than standing far away. i can see the great details of everything which looks so nice.
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that doesnt seem right because i had the Nvidia 9600GT and upgraded to the 9800GX2 and i played Bluray1080P on it and i saw a nicer picture with better colors and resolution. the card must obviously do something right there. being up close to my LCD monitor i can get a good view of the details of the picture than standing far away. i can see the great details of everything which looks so nice.

Personally i'd say any differences you noticed are due to newer drivers, different settings, placebo, etc. Also you should just hook your computer up to an HDTV and have the best of both worlds.
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Personally i'd say any differences you noticed are due to newer drivers, different settings, placebo, etc. Also you should just hook your computer up to an HDTV and have the best of both worlds.

but an HDTV makes a crappy PC monitor. its resolution doesn't go higher than 1920x1080p which sucks for internet use.
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but an HDTV makes a crappy PC monitor. its resolution doesn't go higher than 1920x1080p which sucks for internet use

I think you're backwards here - for the vast majority of ANYTHING you'd see on the internet 1920x1080 is WAY overkill. I can't think of a single site (there must be one somewhere) that's built for anything that high.
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but an HDTV makes a crappy PC monitor. its resolution doesn't go higher than 1920x1080p which sucks for internet use.

Like rockytt said, most sites are designed for 800x600 or 1024x768. There are a few that are designed for 1280x1024.
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The "problem" is that when you try and view a site on a monitor set to 1920x1080 is that the whole thing just looks too small for most people.
Example:
If you've got an image that's 640x480 and are displaying it on a monitor set to 640x480 it will fill the screen. If you try and put the same image on a monitor set to 1920x1080 it fills (approx) 1/9 of the screen.

Going back to your original question-it depends 100% on which monitors you're comparing-size, viewing distance, quality etc.
A 40" LCD "HDTV" IS a computer monitor-albeit one that has some extra circuitry to allow other types of inputs.
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i was wondering will i get a better picture quality if i hook up an external bluray player to my monitor via HDMI rather than having an internal blueray player hooked to my monitor with DVI-D (HDCP)?
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i was wondering will i get a better picture quality if i hook up an external bluray player to my monitor via HDMI rather than having an internal blueray player hooked to my monitor with DVI-D (HDCP)?

It sounds like you have a very nice system, in which case i think adding a Blu-Ray drive for ~$140 is a much better idea than buying a stand-alone unit. If you were thinking of building a whole rig just for Blu-Ray playback then most on here would probably say it wasn't worth it, but as an add-on to your already nice system i think you'll save a lot of money and be very pleased with the results. The only issue you might have is with the HD audio codecs - Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA, but hopefully that will be resolved in the not-too-distant future with HDMI 1.3 soundcards. Quality-wise i don't think your computer will have any problem matching a stand-alone unit.
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It sounds like you have a very nice system, in which case i think adding a Blu-Ray drive for ~$140 is a much better idea than buying a stand-alone unit. If you were thinking of building a whole rig just for Blu-Ray playback then most on here would probably say it wasn't worth it, but as an add-on to your already nice system i think you'll save a lot of money and be very pleased with the results. The only issue you might have is with the HD audio codecs - Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA, but hopefully that will be resolved in the not-too-distant future with HDMI 1.3 soundcards. Quality-wise i don't think your computer will have any problem matching a stand-alone unit.

hi thanks for your input and help i appreciate it.
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hi does an interal bluray player with a top end graphic card hooked up with DVI-D and powerDVD 8 ultra software look better than a external bluray player hooked up to a pc monitor via HDMI?. which would give me the better picture quality?

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Probably depends on the monitor/resolution, if you're running a standard HD resolution (1920x1080/1280x720/etc) it's probably a draw. However if you've got a goofy resolution, like PC monitors tend to have (1680x1050/1920x1200), then the PC would probably have an edge. The reason is the standalone player won't scale to the monitor's resolution, only standard HD resolutions, that means you'd be left with the monitor scaling, and most monitors don't have the greatest scalers.

If nothing else it would probably be way more convenient to just do it with the PC.

See what an anamorphoscopic lens can do, see movies the way they were meant to be seen
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my monitor is the samsung 275tplus its native resolution is 1920x1200 @60hz. . what i want to know is which would give me a better pic quality, a LG GGC-H20L internal bluray player with an nvidia 9800gx2 graphic card+DVI-D or an external bluray player with HDMI hooked up to my pc monitor. i'll be watching bluray on this monitor always.

(playing bluray movies)
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