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SamuriHL's Avatar SamuriHL 07:45 AM 12-05-2009
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Which sample size/rate is it downsampling from and to?

All HD audio gets downsampled to 48/16 LPCM when no PAP is involved.

klillevo's Avatar klillevo 08:51 AM 12-05-2009
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All HD audio gets downsampled to 48/16 LPCM when no PAP is involved.

And I read that TrueHD and DTS-HD Master is limited to 96 kHz*/24bit resolution in multichannel mode with up to 8 channels, but the article does not mention what typical Blu-ray content uses.

*) 192 kHz for 2 channels.
SamuriHL's Avatar SamuriHL 08:57 AM 12-05-2009
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And I read that TrueHD and DTS-HD Master is limited to 96 kHz*/24bit resolution in multichannel mode with up to 8 channels, but the article does not mention what typical Blu-ray content uses.

*) 192 kHz for 2 channels.

That's entirely possible. I don't honestly know. However, I think that's wrong, though, because if memory serves Akira was 192/24 TrueHD and I can tell you that wasn't just 2 channel. So, I doubt the accuracy of that information when it comes to BD's.
Andy o's Avatar Andy o 10:18 AM 12-05-2009
Akira does have 192 kHz /24-bit TrueHD audio. That 96/24 limitation was for the DVD-A specs actually, and it was 6-channels, not 8. That's probably where the confusion comes from.
klillevo's Avatar klillevo 03:05 PM 12-05-2009
Has anyone tried PowerDVD 8 Ultra on Netbook (Win 7). On mine it installed without errors, but when I attempt to start it, I get the attached very useful error message....



I guess it does not meet minimum system requirements.
LL
crakarjax's Avatar crakarjax 02:20 PM 12-07-2009
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Incorrect. All 4xxx cards support LPCM 7.1.

Do you know this from experience? Their website says otherwise.

HD 4770 & 4830 spec page:
HDMI output support
* All display resolutions up to 1920x10803
* Integrated HD audio controller with support for stereo and multi-channel (up to 7.1) audio formats, including AC-3, AAC, DTS5, enabling a plug-and-play audio solution over HDMI

HD 4850 spec page:
HDMI output support
* All display resolutions up to 1920x10802
* Integrated HD audio controller with support for stereo and multi-channel (up to 7.1) audio formats, including AC-3, AAC, DTS, DTS-HD & Dolby True-HD4, enabling a plug-and-play audio solution over HDMI



Of course this could be them trying to further differentiate their product lines while actually having the same capabilities. However, the 4200 series spec page states:

HDMI output support
* Supports all display resolutions up to 1920x10801
* Integrated HD audio controller with multi-channel (5.1) AC3 support, enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution


So clearly, not ALL 4xxx cards support 7.1, no less 7.1 LPCM.
Andy o's Avatar Andy o 02:39 PM 12-07-2009
He meant the desktop ones, all in the same family. I'm not sure the 4200 can be considered the same "family".
SamuriHL's Avatar SamuriHL 03:29 PM 12-07-2009
Exactly. I don't consider their laptop chipsets(which the 4200 is) to be anywhere near the same as their desktop ones...trust me, I have 3 laptops in the family with ATI chipsets and none of them support 7.1 LPCM. I assumed we were discussing desktop solutions. Which those, to my knowledge, all support 7.1 LPCM. In any case, at this point, I'd hope people would just wait for the 5xxx solution of their choice and skip the 4xxx cards altogether.
crakarjax's Avatar crakarjax 01:12 PM 12-09-2009
HD 4300 spec page:
HDMI output support
* Supports all display resolutions up to 1920x10802
* Integrated HD audio controller with up to 2 channel 48 KHz stereo or multi-channel (7.1) AC3 enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution4

... if it could do LPCM, it would probably say the same thing as the 4850, and it specifically notes AC3 whcih probably means SPDIF. Again, which 4xxx cards have you successfully used with 7.1 LPCM output? I was looking into replacing my 3850 in the past but decided not to due to lack of 7.1 PCM support in anything less than 4850. I'm not interested in gaming, so I basically want the cheapest card that does 7.1 LPCM and onboard VC1 decoding.

Also, can any of these put out TrueHD via HDMI? It looks like the 5xxx series can...
vladd's Avatar vladd 03:11 PM 12-09-2009
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

HD 4300 spec page:
HDMI output support
* Supports all display resolutions up to 1920x10802
* Integrated HD audio controller with up to 2 channel 48 KHz stereo or multi-channel (7.1) AC3 enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution4

... if it could do LPCM, it would probably say the same thing as the 4850, and it specifically notes AC3 whcih probably means SPDIF. Again, which 4xxx cards have you successfully used with 7.1 LPCM output? I was looking into replacing my 3850 in the past but decided not to due to lack of 7.1 PCM support in anything less than 4850. I'm not interested in gaming, so I basically want the cheapest card that does 7.1 LPCM and onboard VC1 decoding.

Any desktop graphics chipset (4350 - 4870) will pass 7.1 LPCM. I have a 4670 that does it.

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Also, can any of these put out TrueHD via HDMI? It looks like the 5xxx series can...

No. Only the 5xxx series.
wzabka's Avatar wzabka 08:08 PM 12-19-2009
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Ok, I've had PDVD8 ultra for over a year now with virtual no problems with playback of bluray until I tried to play a newer BD and I was forced to go onto cyberlinks page and download a patch/update to play the disc.
I don't know if I downloaded a incorrect patch or what but since then nothing but issues. So I tried to delete it and start from scratch. But then Vista wouldn't let me uninstall it. So, I used revo unintaller to get in removed.
Next, I had cyberlink send me a link to build 2521 which I installed. Everything downloads correctly but the player is not saved to the desktop. There is an icon saved to my desktob that says pdv8 but when I click it has a message that says something along the lines of browsing for file and then after a while comes back with the error message that no files were found matching that drive location. I've looked look through all the program files and everything looks like it always did, but I can't find the player and can't launch it from anywhere.
DOes anyone know what's going on with this? Please help
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 06:59 PM 01-01-2010
Does anyone have the full installer for PowerDVD8.2521_DVD081202-02? ... or any 2521 full version? Could you PM immediate if you do?

I cant seem to find my version after doing a restore. There were only a couple of versions that supported Vista Aero for my machine even after the registry hack for Aero support and the option in the app itself. Thanks!
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 12:48 AM 01-02-2010
I just downgraded my display adapter to the one that came with my PC....

The old 8500GT with builtin HDMI.

I just realized that the drivers, PowerDVD version, and settings I used to use that support Aero effects during playback no longer work. The only explanation is the older display card.

I can regain my aero effects via restarting the Desktop Window Manager Session Manager service after I start video playback without any video issues during Bluray playback.

Can anyone think of a way to prevent PowerDVD from telling Desktop Window Manager Session Manager to temporarily disable Aero effects or somehow automatically restart Desktop Window Manager Session Manager service?

There's absolutely no good reason to disable aero effects with this display adapter during during any kind of hardware accerated video playback as far performance goes.

Anyone have suggestions besides all the known PowerDVD registry setting to enable aero? Believe me, I've tried them all... and it's not that.

And, no... I cant upgrade my display adapter... without causing other issues (not worth discussing).

Thanks if anyone has any ideas besides getting a new display adapater.
podge3's Avatar podge3 07:44 AM 01-18-2010
Anyone know where I can download PowerDVD Reloaded?

I sent MKANET a PM but he doesn't seem to be on here too much.
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 11:14 AM 01-20-2010
Sorry I have been away on a project. Check your PM.

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Anyone know where I can download PowerDVD Reloaded?

I sent MKANET a PM but he doesn't seem to be on here too much.


podge3's Avatar podge3 08:09 PM 01-20-2010
Cheers
skibum5000's Avatar skibum5000 01:30 PM 02-04-2010
does PDVD9 do anything better than 8 yet?

(i use analog out for sound, my pc card is much higher quality than my receiver)

has nayone been getting trouble where the audio continues but the video stays stuck on a frame for a second or two before continuing again (it's not the discs since the location of these video pauses is random and changes viewing to viewing, sometimes it starts happening annoyingly often)
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 02:20 PM 02-04-2010
Video for bluray is the same. If you have an older version of PowerDVD 8 with AnyDVD-HD, you have support for HD-DVD as well. on PowerDVD 8. PowerDVD 8 has less bloat and nicer looking player; especially with the reloaded addon with optional skins. I dont think you're going to hear any night and day difference between PowerDVD 8 and 9 for digital multi-channel audio. It certainly wouldnt make much sense to upgrade from PowerDVD 8 to 9 if you already have PowerDVD 8.. money better spent would be with AnyDVD-HD.

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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

does PDVD9 do anything better than 8 yet?

(i use analog out for sound, my pc card is much higher quality than my receiver)

has nayone been getting trouble where the audio continues but the video stays stuck on a frame for a second or two before continuing again (it's not the discs since the location of these video pauses is random and changes viewing to viewing, sometimes it starts happening annoyingly often)


mryerse's Avatar mryerse 09:56 PM 02-26-2010
Just bought a lite on drive and it can't seem to play more than a minute of previews before it stops responding altogether. Lame!
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 12:03 AM 02-27-2010
PowerDVD 8 is an old version. The current version is PowerDVD 9 with the latest patch/update for PowerDVD 9. If you want to play newer discs using PowerdVD 8... you will need AnyDVD-HD installed on that PC. I personally prefer PowerDVD 8 over PowerDVD 9; hence, I installed AnyDVD-HD. Works like a charm. Plus, it let's you backup your discs if you have (or want start) a collection of your blu-ray movies.

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Just bought a lite on drive and it can't seem to play more than a minute of previews before it stops responding altogether. Lame!


mryerse's Avatar mryerse 01:04 AM 02-27-2010
Does it integrate well with Media Center? I ended up downloading a trial of TMT3 so I could at least enjoy my new HTPC.
MKANET's Avatar MKANET 11:51 AM 02-27-2010
Maybe you should also try downloading PowerDVD 9 trial and see for yourself.

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Does it integrate well with Media Center? I ended up downloading a trial of TMT3 so I could at least enjoy my new HTPC.


audiophile_au's Avatar audiophile_au 11:09 PM 02-10-2011
i have recently got terminator salvation, and iron man 2 i keep getting audio drop outs for these. Anyone else experienced this ?

Surely cyberlink would update for new types of dics....... nto sure if i want to upgrade to 9 or 10 to play 2 discs.

Might try other options if they do not release a patch soon
balky's Avatar balky 05:38 AM 02-11-2011
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Originally Posted by audiophile_au View Post

i have recently got terminator salvation, and iron man 2 i keep getting audio drop outs for these. Anyone else experienced this ?

Surely cyberlink would update for new types of dics....... nto sure if i want to upgrade to 9 or 10 to play 2 discs.

Might try other options if they do not release a patch soon

Install AnyDVD-HD...
21 days of free trial with full functionality...

PDVD is on version 10, you can be rest assured your ain't getting any patch for PDVD8...
hanly2's Avatar hanly2 06:53 PM 04-13-2011
I have a quick question, I just installed this software, It came with my lg drive. I ran the bd-advisor and it tells me that my i3 2100 is not able to play back. It gives me the red light for my graphics too (onboard intel). I thought that this pc would be more then capable of playing br?
Andy o's Avatar Andy o 09:54 PM 04-13-2011
Does it actually play?
hanly2's Avatar hanly2 11:22 AM 04-14-2011
yeh it seemed to play no problem, I didn't watch the whole movie though?
Andy o's Avatar Andy o 02:47 PM 04-14-2011
Then it's fine. The BD advisor is just outdated. If it plays, it plays.
audiophile_au's Avatar audiophile_au 07:48 PM 05-07-2011
well they did not fix the issue they upgraded me to 9 to resolve the issue
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