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post #181 of 3740 Old 07-08-2008, 06:56 PM
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I downloaded Haali and just installed it. It shows up in MPC, and I selected it, but it doesn't show up in MediaPortal.


1. download the filter http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mpc...1&big_mirror=0

2. unzip it too your system32 folder or a folder of your choice. if you install the decoder into a folder other than system32, you will need to remmeber the path to this dir in order to register it.

3. start > run and type regsvr32 MPCVideoDec.ax or regsvr32 c:\\path MPCVideoDec.ax

4: The decoder should now show up in mediaportal config... :P
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1. download the filter http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mpc...1&big_mirror=0

2. unzip it too your system32 folder or a folder of your choice. if you install the decoder into a folder other than system32, you will need to remmeber the path to this dir in order to register it.

3. start > run and type regsvr32 MPCVideoDec.ax or regsvr32 c:\\path MPCVideoDec.ax

4: The decoder should now show up in mediaportal config... :P

Thanks! However I also needed to change from VMR9 to the other one (with a warning), or else it was horribly juddery. Did you have to as well?

And any support for skipping chapters this way?

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Thanks! However I also needed to change from VMR9 to the other one (with a warning), or else it was horribly juddery. Did you have to as well?

And any support for skipping chapters this way?

I'm using vista with EVR. Ive never tried it with XP. From what i understand, evr works with mp, but you lose all dxva 2.0 capabilities when using XP.

Chapters work perfectly using the remote.
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However I also needed to change from VMR9 to the other one (with a warning), or else it was horribly juddery. Did you have to as well?

This may be to do with hardware setup on my system (G35) but to get perfectly smooth playback at 48 Hz I have to use the Haali renderer in XP (with MPC). For some reason VMR9 does an ok job but still get minor stuttering, this may be diff with your ATI card tho. Just a thought.
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Great Guides! Thanks for all your effort in putting these together.

I've just completed my first HD conversion and I wanted to let other newbies know that the video player you choose can make a big difference.

I first tried to play my final .mkv file with MPlayer. No luck, video and audio static.
I next tried VLC. Audio sounded fine though muted, but no video (gray screen).
I then tried Media Player Classic. Great video but audio was choppy and fell out of sync with video.
Finally, I tried Zoom. Great video, great audio, everything in sync!

If I had only tried one player, I would have been recreating my .mkv file over and over with various tweaks, trying to get it to work and would have wasted days.

Now, if only I knew why my file played differently in all those players....

Video: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
Audio: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Converted audio to FLAC
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Jiff, thanks so much for posting up this info. It has been a great help to me. Accepting any donations? lol

Anyways down to the nitty gritty. I have done everything as listed using MeiGui, however clearly something is wrong. The mkv file plays back correctly in its initial state. After being encoded it has a pink box that covers the left side of the screen and the ouput file is only 599 MB so the quality is noticebly bad. I have check all my settings to make sure they are correct but the preview still shows the nasty pink box. If anyone has any insight as to what might be wrong it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Ok I have figured out my problem. Adding the line asharp(10,4) in the final screen causes the half pink screen not sure why. Also Im not sure if video encode will still be crappy but am going to try again. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.
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Why don't you just use autoMKV? Simple and pretty easy to configure. Does a great job transcoding HDTV programs to x264. After a lot of messing around, I have finally settled on a configuration that has great quality and about 1/2 the file size of the original mpeg2 files. Is anyone else using it?
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Hi,
I'm trying to extract a bluray title to be able to play it as a mkv. The video freezes in certain places. i.e. It's fine for 10min and then suddenly the next 2min will be a series of 3sec long still frames. Everytime I play the video, the parts where the problem occurs is consistent.

(Admittedly, eac3to asked me to run the process twice because it detected a few gaps in the audio, which it fixed the second time round. But this made no difference to the problems in the video file created. And checking the timecode for the gaps shows they don't necessarily coincide with the problem areas of the video.)

The video is h264. I use MPC with the ffd video decoder for h264 in WinXP with a radeon at2400.
A few pages ago JiffOrange recommended the Cyberlink and Ashcroft h264 decoders. I tried the Cyberlink and CoreAVC. Neither of them gave me the same video problem with the rip. They both kept playing through the previously freezing areas. However both of these decoders give me choppy playback!? The playback feels like it's 12fps. No idea why - cpu utilisation never peaks above 70%.

Anyone got any ideas?

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Hi,
I'm trying to extract a bluray title to be able to play it as a mkv. The video freezes in certain places. i.e. It's fine for 10min and then suddenly the next 2min will be a series of 3sec long still frames. Everytime I play the video, the parts where the problem occurs is consistent.

(Admittedly, eac3to asked me to run the process twice because it detected a few gaps in the audio, which it fixed the second time round. But this made no difference to the problems in the video file created. And checking the timecode for the gaps shows they don't necessarily coincide with the problem areas of the video.)

The video is h264. I use MPC with the ffd video decoder for h264 in WinXP with a radeon at2400.
A few pages ago JiffOrange recommended the Cyberlink and Ashcroft h264 decoders. I tried the Cyberlink and CoreAVC. Neither of them gave me the same video problem with the rip. They both kept playing through the previously freezing areas. However both of these decoders give me choppy playback!? The playback feels like it's 12fps. No idea why - cpu utilisation never peaks above 70%.

Anyone got any ideas?

'cheers
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Sounds like you extracted the wrong set of streams. I had this happen on the Simpsons. It's hard to pick the right set of streams, but eac3to makes it a lot easier. Just try with one where the parts are more sequential, usually that's the right one.

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M2TS, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 1:28:29
1: Chapters, 25 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (20:11)
4: AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 448kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
6: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 448kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 224kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: DTS Express, English, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 192kbit/s, 48khz
This audio conversion is not supported.


Does anyone know a fix for the above message? Eacto wont let me get past this because it says it cannot decode DTS express. Is there anything I can do to get it to skip this particular file and continue on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I think you'd have to tell EAC3TO exactly which streams to process...
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Does anyone know a fix for the above message?

Hi Acturbo,
You have to tell eac3to what streams to proccess. You will need to call each stream that you require by number as follows in the example. So for a mkv of the main video and the Dts MA stream with chapters you would need the following (adjust paths as required):

eac3to.exe "D:\\BDMV\\STREAMS\\xxxxx.m2ts" 2:"C:\\YOUR_DIRECTORY\\MOVIE.mkv" 5:"C:\\YOUR_DIRECTORY\\MOVIE.flac" 1:C:\\YOUR_DIRECTORY\\chapter.txt"

You do not say how you read in the BD structure to eac3to i.e. as a full disc, then as a title but this can be changed to reflect that in the first line. In addition, when using asharp this must always come before any resize options or it will not work prop because it was origionaly designed as a post-proccesing filter for ffdshow and causes picture distortion if used in the incorrect place. Hope that helps.

sj64,
The choice of decoders and renderers can really effect playback and also weather or not you have HA enabled (only available with Cyberlink, Arcsoft, nero and MPC-HC internal filters). You should be able to get HA with your radeon but it may not be the best choice. I don't think that it is a problem with your rip if one decoder doesn't freeze. When using Cyberlink/coreAVC is ffdshow still in your chain as a post-proccesor? If so this can give choppy playback but since you state that CPU never goes above ~70% then this is unlikely but I'd certainly check. Also when using decoder that use HA I would try with it both enabled and disabled (requires player restart). Also check your renderer, on my system VMR9 gives smooth playback on h264 material but not VC-1 and I have to use the haali renderer for smooth VC-1 (this is however @48 Hz and most will do at 60 Hz). What refresh rate are you using? Do you have the correct clock for the rate? Post back if you still got trouble but with more detail about what you are using or it will be very difficult to diagnose. Sorry can't be more help.
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Hi JiffOrange,
thanks for the suggestions. I went and tried the Cyberlink h264 decoder in MPC_HC instead and it worked a charm. Was choppy in MPC, but beauitfully smooth in MPC-HC. Go figure!?
BTW - For the 2.4 ratio movies I'm outputting 1920x800@72p to my crt projector.

AbMagFag; I did only extract stuff from the first stream -i.e "eac3to d: 1)", but so far in all the titles I've done it's always been the first one. In fact sometimes the second stream appears to be identical. Is it?
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Thanks for the help Jiff, I will give it a go when I get home. The help is much appreciated.
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Hi JiffOrange,
thanks for the suggestions. I went and tried the Cyberlink h264 decoder in MPC_HC instead and it worked a charm. Was choppy in MPC, but beauitfully smooth in MPC-HC. Go figure!?
BTW - For the 2.4 ratio movies I'm outputting 1920x800@72p to my crt projector.

AbMagFag; I did only extract stuff from the first stream -i.e "eac3to d: 1)", but so far in all the titles I've done it's always been the first one. In fact sometimes the second stream appears to be identical. Is it?

No, they're not all identical. I've only done a few test, but The Simpsons was the weird one for me - "track" 1 had a bunch of stills with old audio, and I think the actual movie was "track" 4. The difference was that the correct track had sequential streams in it, versus a bunch of random ones in the middle.

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I used this software to pull a movie and had some odd problems with sound when using FFDShow audio to decode FLAC out of the MKV container. The music was way too loud and I could barely hear anyone speaking. The first thing I ended up having to do was use the FFDShow Mixer option to force it to use 5.1 to stop it from putting out 6.1 (which I do not have), but had to leave the LFE option unchecked. The X-Fi did not like FFDShow LFE settings. I messed with FFDShow's Volume levels for a bit and got it evened out pretty well by putting the left and right channels at 50% and center at 100%. I left the surrounds at 100%. The difference between the compressed AC3 640kbps and lossless track is somewhat noticable after you compare them a bit... voices in compressed audio seem to be less "real", but beyond that it is hard to really tell a difference.
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Sounds strange. I have used ffdshow for FLAC many times without this problem. However, I'd suggest you try MadFLAC (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130498). It is the recommended FLAC decoder. Free and better than ffdshow.
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I tried madflac and it does the same thing... at least with FFDShow I can adjust it out. It may be something with the X-fi
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Ok, CRAZY! I've spent the past week ripping my HDDVDs and Blurays thanks to this helpful guide but now I've run into something I can't figure out.

When ripping the Mallrats HDDVD, I've used Eac3to to demux the audio tracks giving me the following:

mallrats_ripped - 3 - E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz.ac3
mallrats_ripped - 5 - E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, 'Director's Commentary'.ac3

Here's the crazy part. I'm muxing the AC3 5.1 with the encoded x264 video stream using MKVMerge and when I play back the final MKV...I hear the Director's Commentary. And to further complicate it, when I playback the unmuxed 5.1 AC3 file by itself, it's as it should be.

Does anyone have an idea as to what's going on?
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Hi guys,

I want to thank everyone who have provided info in this thread. It has been very valuable as I am just starting to convert my HDDVD collection.

I do have a couple of questions:

1) My first conversion is the US HDDVD of Casino (maybe a little stupid to start my testing with a 3hr movie ). When trying to convert the 2.3gb DD+ 5.1 EAC3 main audio track to Flac, I end up with a 4gb Flac file. Is that normal? I have latest madflac installed (as of yesterday). If this is right, I am just surprised nobody else has commented on the increased file size. I know I am moving from a lossy format to a lossless but I just expected Flac to compress as good as DD+.

2) My second option then would be to convert to DTS but I do prefer to be able to go back to the original format. Anyone has an idea how good of a DTS track I can create from DD+ as compared to a DTS track mastered by the studio? (standard 1536kbps DTS).

3) As of May 7th ArcSoft received DTS-HD certification for TMT. Does that mean we might soon get full DTS-HD support in MKV?

4) JiffOrange, since I do have a 1080p TV, I want to compress with x264 but keep 1080p. Should I change any of the parameters qualitywise from your 720p MeGUI guide apart from raising the bitrate to 12-14mbps?

Thanks again for all the great info in this thread
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Here's the crazy part. I'm muxing the AC3 5.1 with the encoded x264 video stream using MKVMerge and when I play back the final MKV...I hear the Director's Commentary. And to further complicate it, when I playback the unmuxed 5.1 AC3 file by itself, it's as it should be.

Hi amp,
Sound like what is happening is haali splitter is defaulting to the Director's Commentary instead of the primary ac3 stream. Are both muxed into into the mkv? If not is the commentary in same directory as the mkv? To solve your problem, when muxing the streams set the ac3 file as default under the general options in mkv (with the stream selected in the main window) and remux. If your commentary track is in the same directory as your mkv and it is haali that is picking it up and playing it as the default track then you can do one of two things:

1. Go into the options for haali and disable the option to associate audio files with video files (sorry can't remember of the top of my head what it called, not near a windows PC!).
2. Rename the audio file that is causing the problem to something else different from the mkv.

Hi Krogh71,
I'll answer your Qs in order:
1. Yes it is normal to end up with a larger flac file than DD+ ....the efficiency of flac is about the same as TrueHD/dts MA/dts HD and obviously you stand to gain significant saving with LPCM since this is not compressed at all.
2. Dts @1.5 Mbps from DD+ will be very simular to any studio created tracks, its doubtfull you will be able to hear a diff and since dialogue normalisation will be removed in the process it will actually sound more agressive than the DD+ track you started with. Thier will be some difference however between the dts and DD+ track since DD+ is more efficient than legacy dts. (ac3@640kbps is also much better than most DVD tracks due to DN removal and higher bitrate).
3. Dts HD is supported in mkv now, you can mux a dts HD/MA track into mkv with mkvmerge but the problem is arcsoft filters and any other COMMERCIAL players will not decode the tracks when they are not in Blu ray or HD DVD file types/structures (player dependent) and will still downres sound anyway withour PAP. You may be able to get this working in Directshow with the filters (I know its possible, I've done it but its a ball ache and not worth the effort when flac is so easy). At the min flac really is the best and easiest way to get full resolution, full bitdepth sound. In essence you do get dts MA/HD with flac as the decoded info is the SAME bit perfect LPCM stream.
4. You will need to get rid of any resize options but that is it so don't tick the 'clever anamorphic resize' option and thats it. Happy encoding!
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It may be something with the X-fi

Sounds like a loose connection mate with the C/LFE jack. Can you play the origional? what is the diff? Doubt it is the encode all this does is decode the track to PCM and then zip it back up as flac .....shouldn't be any audio processing going on.
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Thanks Jiff but that's actually the first thing I tried. And on another remux I left the commentary out all together but I still heard the commentary. I'm going to try using a different MKV muxer and see if that helps.
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Sorry for my ignorance, I am new to this

my specs

samsung 62" LED DLP 1080p
Pioneer Elite Reciever

Intel core 2 quad 2.66 45nm
gigabyte motherboard with spdif out
nvidia 9800 gx2 1gb ddr3
8gb patriot ddr2
4tb worth of sata hdd
vista ultimate x64

computer connected to tv via hdmi, spdif output of motherboard connected to reciever

1. If I want the highest picture quality possible, would I just use eac3to to get the mkv and then mux it with the flac audio and leave it? Would that give me the best possible picture, without regard to HDD space?

2. When I ran eac3to, it didnt convert audio track to flac, they are eac3...should I just run eac3to and specify the audio file as input and output to .flac similar to the command used for .EVO in and .mkv out?

3. Does playing the mkv in wmp11 give you the benefit of hardware video acceleration?

4. Is the picture quality same, better, or worse if I just play from disk, or .iso in powerdvd compared to making .mkv and playing that with wmp11.

any other suggestions on how I am doing things?

Thank you for your help!
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madflac wasnt installed, so i think that will take care of eac3to not converting to flac.
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1. If I want the highest picture quality possible, would I just use eac3to to get the mkv and then mux it with the flac audio and leave it? Would that give me the best possible picture, without regard to HDD space?

2. When I ran eac3to, it didnt convert audio track to flac, they are eac3...should I just run eac3to and specify the audio file as input and output to .flac similar to the command used for .EVO in and .mkv out?

3. Does playing the mkv in wmp11 give you the benefit of hardware video acceleration?

4. Is the picture quality same, better, or worse if I just play from disk, or .iso in powerdvd compared to making .mkv and playing that with wmp11.

any other suggestions on how I am doing things?

Thank you for your help!

Hi bender77,
To answer your qs in order:
1. Yes making an mkv of the origional stream (no re-encoding) will give you no loss in quality i.e. the exact same as on the disc, 1 to 1. The only way you will loose quality is with compression with x264/MeGUI etc. What eac3to does when it creates the mkv is strip out the video from disc without the DRM.
2. Yes ....eac3to supports a number of conversion types. As long as you specify the relevent streams (disc or HDD) and the output file type then you are set to go.
3. Playing the mkv in any player i.e. MPC, zoom etc with the WMP11 decoder will give you HA. Also come comercail players also support this such as Arcsoft TMT.
4. It is the same, but some decoders give better qaulity that others.
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Hi amp,
Sound like what is happening is haali splitter is defaulting to the Director's Commentary instead of the primary ac3 stream. Are both muxed into into the mkv? If not is the commentary in same directory as the mkv? To solve your problem, when muxing the streams set the ac3 file as default under the general options in mkv (with the stream selected in the main window) and remux. If your commentary track is in the same directory as your mkv and it is haali that is picking it up and playing it as the default track then you can do one of two things:

1. Go into the options for haali and disable the option to associate audio files with video files (sorry can't remember of the top of my head what it called, not near a windows PC!).
2. Rename the audio file that is causing the problem to something else different from the mkv.

Hi Krogh71,
I'll answer your Qs in order:
1. Yes it is normal to end up with a larger flac file than DD+ ....the efficiency of flac is about the same as TrueHD/dts MA/dts HD and obviously you stand to gain significant saving with LPCM since this is not compressed at all.
2. Dts @1.5 Mbps from DD+ will be very simular to any studio created tracks, its doubtfull you will be able to hear a diff and since dialogue normalisation will be removed in the process it will actually sound more agressive than the DD+ track you started with. Thier will be some difference however between the dts and DD+ track since DD+ is more efficient than legacy dts. (ac3@640kbps is also much better than most DVD tracks due to DN removal and higher bitrate).
3. Dts HD is supported in mkv now, you can mux a dts HD/MA track into mkv with mkvmerge but the problem is arcsoft filters and any other COMMERCIAL players will not decode the tracks when they are not in Blu ray or HD DVD file types/structures (player dependent) and will still downres sound anyway withour PAP. You may be able to get this working in Directshow with the filters (I know its possible, I've done it but its a ball ache and not worth the effort when flac is so easy). At the min flac really is the best and easiest way to get full resolution, full bitdepth sound. In essence you do get dts MA/HD with flac as the decoded info is the SAME bit perfect LPCM stream.
4. You will need to get rid of any resize options but that is it so don't tick the 'clever anamorphic resize' option and thats it. Happy encoding!
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JiffOrange,

Thanks for your quick response. I just finished my first HDDVD to MKV and the result is awesome even with x264 compression. I got my audio commentary, chapters, subtitles etc.

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JiffOrange,

Thanks for your quick response. I just finished my first HDDVD to MKV and the result is awesome even with x264 compression. I got my audio commentary, chapters, subtitles etc.

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No worries,
Really glad other people are finding benefit to these methods ...especially the re-encode options. Not everybody will require this but I think may will see some benefit. Any Qs please ask.
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And on another remux I left the commentary out all together but I still heard the commentary.

Hi amps,
I know that you said you had tried my suggestions but If you are still getting the comm track without it being muxed then Haali must be picking it up. Check when you play the file how may audio filters are in your list. More than two i.e. 2 ffdshows for instance then this is def your problem. Take the comm track out of the folder or rename to something completely different i.e. Initials or something and that should stop stop haali associating it with your mkv.
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