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http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...13&modelmenu=1

Now that these boards are available I thought Asus P5Q-EM owners should have a place to share the experience.

I have three that I bought from Newegg. They should be here by Thursday or Friday.

The first build is:
Asus P5Q-EM
Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz
A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800
Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s ( This unit will be for streaming mostly)
ASUS BC-1205PT Blu-ray DVD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA (Already had)


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I hope for an understandable thread with clear results, yea or nay.

Good luck Venomnuss.
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I hope for an understandable thread with clear results, yea or nay.

Good luck Venomnuss.

I am hoping for the best. Asus has always been good to me

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I ordered one of these Saturday from zipzoomfly.com. It shipped yesterday and will arrive tomorrow. I've always been a big fan of Asus mobos and I currently run a pair of their G35s as HTPCs and a server mobo of theirs in my media server. I also have the Intel mATX G45 showing up tomorrow, so I'll be busy this weekend.

One of them is going into a LIANLI PC-C37B HTPC case, the other into a 2U rack chassis. Haven't decided which is going where yet.

Both systems will be running Vista 32-bit. One with an E8400, the other an E4500 pulled from one of the G35 mobos since it can't quite keep up with AVC 1080p decoding on certain BDs.
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Does this board use the horrible Atheros chip for the gigabit ethernet controller?

There are tons of incompatabilities with routers with the Atheros chip.
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RealtekĀ® 8111C PCI-E Gigabit LAN controllers, featuring AI Net2

http://asus.com/products.aspx?modelm...11&l3=761&l4=0
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RealtekĀ® 8111C PCI-E Gigabit LAN controllers, featuring AI Net2

http://asus.com/products.aspx?modelm...11&l3=761&l4=0


I have 4 Asus boards running in my home currently using the Realtek 8111B and have never had any problems at all.

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I am really tempted to buy this board. But I just can't make up my mind on it or the DG45ID. Other then the feature set are there any major reasons to choose one over the other? I mean will having the Intel board mean more updates or better support?
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So is either TMT or PDVD putting out either full DTD-MA or and other uncompressed (and not downsampled) audio via HDMI yet? or even analog for that matter?
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I am really tempted to buy this board. But I just can't make up my mind on it or the DG45ID. Other then the feature set are there any major reasons to choose one over the other? I mean will having the Intel board mean more updates or better support?

Intel board will not have any special features, like overclocking, bios protection and all the other stuff you can see listed for Asus. Some people view this as a benefit though.

Drivers will be the same for both as its the same chipset. Personally, I'd go for an enthusiast chipset with better cooling and more features.
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Nice. Maybe I am thinking of Abit then.
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As I am reading through the P5Q-EM manual I see Asus recommends as a start an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4, 1GB of DDR2-800 and Power DVD Ultra V8.0 for Blu-ray playback. Of course they also mention having the latest drivers and player software.

That would be about $280 for Board,CPU & Memory. Not bad if it really works.

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damn it someone review this board already !! ...i need to finish this project before i change my mind on the hardware setup
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damn it someone review this board already !! ...i need to finish this project before i change my mind on the hardware setup

There doesn't seem to be much interest in reviewing the G45 chipset. Most people here have speculated that since the software is so immature, it wouldn't be possible to make a complete review.

I think the best you are going to get is what people have to say in here. At least until HD HTPCs gain popularity.
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I'd gladly write up a review if they'd hurry up and release the board in their home market
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FedEx is showing my P5Q-EM is out for delivery today.

Just to make sure I got my ducks in a row, I plan to do a clean install of Vista Home Premium 32-bit, apply SP1 and then install the following:

Intel INF Chipset 9.0.0.1009 (6-12-2008 from Intel DG45ID website)
GFX Vista32 15.9.9.1527 (8-5-2008 from Intel D45ID website)
Realtek LAN 6.206.0502.2008.5.68 (07-23-2008 from Asus P5Q-EM website)

Latest BIOS is 0202 (dated 08-05-2008 on Asus website), which is likely what will be on the board when I receive it. If not, I'll flash it to that version.
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FedEx is showing my P5Q-EM is out for delivery today.

Just to make sure I got my ducks in a row, I plan to do a clean install of Vista Home Premium 32-bit, apply SP1 and then install the following:

Intel INF Chipset 9.0.0.1009 (6-12-2008 from Intel DG45ID website)
GFX Vista32 15.9.9.1527 (8-5-2008 from Intel D45ID website)
Realtek LAN 6.206.0502.2008.5.68 (07-23-2008 from Asus P5Q-EM website)

Latest BIOS is 0202 (dated 08-05-2008 on Asus website), which is likely what will be on the board when I receive it. If not, I'll flash it to that version.


Kewl. Please keep us informed how things go. What I've been reading online about the G45 chipset has not been good so far.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2328153,00.asp

It is really troubling since I need a HTPC with this board now but I don't want to risk the issues and poor video quality.
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As I am reading through the P5Q-EM manual I see Asus recommends as a start an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4, 1GB of DDR2-800 and Power DVD Ultra V8.0 for Blu-ray playback. Of course they also mention having the latest drivers and player software.

That would be about $280 for Board,CPU & Memory. Not bad if it really works.

Don't forget $100 for Vista and $100 for PDVD! Funny how we always seem to leave those two items out when rationalizing . plus $100+ for the fancy case, and $100+ for storage and $100+ keyboard/remote... etc ad nauseum .

I'm looking forward to a good review of this board as well, in particular confirmation that HDMI and DVI can run simultaneously in clone mode, according to the P5Q-EM manual:
"You can connect two monitors to any two of the onboard VGA, DVI-D and HDMI ports." (p. 43)

This is in conflict with the Gigabyte's GA-EG45M-DS2H manual which states dual display with HDMI and DVI is not possible (p. 22). It's the same chipset so this seems a bit odd to me.
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Intel board will not have any special features, like overclocking, bios protection and all the other stuff you can see listed for Asus. Some people view this as a benefit though.

My take on the difference between Asus P5Q-EM and Intel DG45ID:

Asus advantage:
A1 more Asus features, especially for overclocking
A2 EPU-4, for energy saving
A3 PS/2, floppy drive, and parallel ATA interfaces (I have no use of any of these)

Intel advantage:
I1 eSATA on back panel
I2 IR emitter and receiver interface

Other difference:
O1 Sound chip: Asus uses Realtek ALC1200 (unknown SNR), Intel uses IDT 92HD73E (95dB SNR)
O2 Network chip: Asus uses Realtek 8111C, Intel uses Intel 82567LF
O3 Firewire chip: Asus uses Agere L-FW3227, I don't know what chip Intel uses

Since I am going to fit one G45 board into a uATX case with low-profile expansion cards only, the reason I1 (eSATA on back panel) alone is enough for me to pick Intel DG45ID. Hopefully I can use the built-in IR interfaces sometime in the future.
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Asus advantage:
A1 more Asus features, especially for overclocking
A2 EPU-4, for energy saving
A3 PS/2, floppy drive, and parallel ATA interfaces (I have no use of any of these)

Intel advantage:
I1 eSATA on back panel
I2 IR emitter and receiver interface

I was also reading through the Intel and ASUS manuals and noticed these differences. The case I am getting (nMediaPC 1000B) has an eSATA prt on the front, so I don't need another one on the back. Plus if worst came to worst the ASUS comes with a eSATA bracket.

As for the IR I noticed that but have no idea what it is for. They are just headers, so wouldn't it be the same or similar to a serial header? And don't most IR receivers use USB? Correct me if I am wrong. Do you need an IR header to install a IR receiver later?
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I was also reading through the Intel and ASUS manuals and noticed these differences. The case I am getting (nMediaPC 1000B) has an eSATA prt on the front, so I don't need another one on the back. Plus if worst came to worst the ASUS comes with a eSATA bracket.

As for the IR I noticed that but have no idea what it is for. They are just headers, so wouldn't it be the same or similar to a serial header? And don't most IR receivers use USB? Correct me if I am wrong. Do you need an IR header to install a IR receiver later?

The cases that I am looking at don't have eSATA on the front panel. Besides, I am most likely to hook up an external drive permanently due to limited space within the case. For those reasons, the eSATA on the back panel is important to me.

I have no use of the built-in IR circuitry for now. I also think USB IR modules are much more popular, and probably more flexible, too. It is just that if there is a HTPC case that can elegantly use the built-in IR function, the resulting HTPC may feel more integrated.
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I was also reading through the Intel and ASUS manuals and noticed these differences. The case I am getting (nMediaPC 1000B) has an eSATA prt on the front, so I don't need another one on the back. Plus if worst came to worst the ASUS comes with a eSATA bracket.

As for the IR I noticed that but have no idea what it is for. They are just headers, so wouldn't it be the same or similar to a serial header? And don't most IR receivers use USB? Correct me if I am wrong. Do you need an IR header to install a IR receiver later?

thequinox, did you find any reviews on the nMediaPC 1000B? I'm looking at that case also, but I'd like some feedback on it before I buy. It looks like it will fit nice with a G45 board.
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thequinox, did you find any reviews on the nMediaPC 1000B? I'm looking at that case also, but I'd like some feedback on it before I buy. It looks like it will fit nice with a G45 board.

Nope, there is basically nothing out there on the net about it. But mine should arrive by the end of the week and I would be happy to post some pics and opinions on it for you.
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My P5Q-EM and Intel DG45ID both showed up today.



I plan to do a clean install as per my previous email on both systems and should be able to run them in parallel to compare them.

One system will be connected to a Denon 3808 -> Panny 65" 1080p plasma.

The other to an Onkyo 885 -> Sony Pearl projector.

I also have a Dell 24" LCD 1920x1200 monitor so I can check running 2 displays at once. Since my 2405 monitor doesn't support DHCP, the results should be interesting. I do have AnyDVD through.
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My P5Q-EM and Intel DG45ID both showed up today.



I plan to do a clean install as per my previous email on both systems and should be able to run them in parallel to compare them.

One system will be connected to a Denon 3808 -> Panny 65" 1080p plasma.

The other to an Onkyo 885 -> Sony Pearl projector.

I also have a Dell 24" LCD 1920x1200 monitor so I can check running 2 displays at once. Since my 2405 monitor doesn't support DHCP, the results should be interesting. I do have AnyDVD through.

MANNA FROM HEAVEN!! I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing here. These are the exact two motherboards I've been considering but the early reviews have really been sketchy. I'll really be interested to hear your comments.
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My P5Q-EM and Intel DG45ID both showed up today.



I plan to do a clean install as per my previous email on both systems and should be able to run them in parallel to compare them.

One system will be connected to a Denon 3808 -> Panny 65" 1080p plasma.

The other to an Onkyo 885 -> Sony Pearl projector.

I also have a Dell 24" LCD 1920x1200 monitor so I can check running 2 displays at once. Since my 2405 monitor doesn't support DHCP, the results should be interesting. I do have AnyDVD through.

Now that people are getting these can someone test if full bitrate DTS-MA audio is working either via PCM or bitstream with either PowerDVD or TMT. This is the only thing holding me back. Not usre if version 121 of TMT is the version that allows full bitrate HD audio. PDVD is a lot harder to tell since their version lists never says anything.

Thanks.
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I also have a Dell 24" LCD 1920x1200 monitor so I can check running 2 displays at once. Since my 2405 monitor doesn't support DHCP, the results should be interesting. I do have AnyDVD through.

I always have my monitor set to a static IP
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My P5Q-EM and Intel DG45ID both showed up today.



I plan to do a clean install as per my previous email on both systems and should be able to run them in parallel to compare them.

One system will be connected to a Denon 3808 -> Panny 65" 1080p plasma.

The other to an Onkyo 885 -> Sony Pearl projector.

I also have a Dell 24" LCD 1920x1200 monitor so I can check running 2 displays at once. Since my 2405 monitor doesn't support DHCP, the results should be interesting. I do have AnyDVD through.

Looks great! I cannot wait to see what you find out. My tracking shows delivery for tomorrow afternoon.
I will be building this weekend. I will be running HDMI through a Sony STR-DG920 and out to a Panasonic AE-2000 Projector.

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Ok, I got the P5Q all mounted in my LIAN LI PC-C37. Man, this is a really nice case!

Side view. I'm using a Corsair VX450W PS. Probably way overkill.



Top view.



And sitting on top of my G35 Asus clear cube water cooled workstation. This is the machine I'm posting from.



Next step is to power this bad boy up and get Vista installed!
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