Originally Posted by Super XP
Auzentech & Asus has no choice but to release their cards with full software player compatibility support. These cards are advertized to perform what is being advertized and that is what lead the buyer to buy the product.
If they do not meet the expectations of which the sound cards were advertized/based on in the first place, then they are in a Material breach of contract.
The constitution states the buyer has the right to for a complete refund regardless whether that product can or cannot be returned so long as the product is not performing as advertized.
So it only makes logical sense that the full retail version of Power DVD HD or whatever they decide on is included in the package.
I see... any idea why Auzen has only stated to date AFAIK
that they will be including a trial version of PDVD? In fact, looking at the beginning of your statement it does not follow that the latter half of your statement is valid. They might be contractually obligated to provide compatibility and support for the retail version but that in no way means they have to provide you with the full retail version. I know of no statements from either of them that commit them to providing full retail versions of their partner software.
As it stands, and again AFAIK
, Asus is giving a proprietary version of TMT that is not currently comparable to the retail version (notably support for HDDVD and VMC integration is lacking) and Auzen speaks only of a trial version of PDVD. We have no data that I am aware of to the effect that either of these situations will change although it is likely ASUS will remedy one or both of those problems on their end. Auzen has, to the best of my knowledge, never made any statement about including a full retail package of PDVD.
From the Auzen website I determine that they are still stating they will ship only a trial version of PDVD:
Power DVD Trial
This seems to contradict the latter half of your statement above. In my case, were this to hold true for the shipping product, it would completely rule out any chance I would buy the product. In the case of ASUS, unless they return to the VMC integration, I would be hesitant to buy the product unless the price were to be reduced. Call me cheap but I place the value of the sound card itself around $75 to $100 at the most no matter what it does. This may be well under what others value it at but we each have our own value system - we often refer to this as 'the free market' insofar as we decide for ourselves what something is worth and if we can find it for that price we buy it otherwise we do not.
I sure hope that Auzen gets their product out - presumably with PDVD9 from what I can surmise - with the full retail version included and hopefully at a street price substantially lower than currently advertised. For me they have about a $25 advantage on the ASUS card all else being equal and this advantage is due to the presence of the X-FI DSP. Unlike many others I am actually pretty happy with Creative aside from their cliff-like warranty behavior - but I now know this and thus am an informed consumer so cannot complain about it.
Oh, and FWIW I never saw any consumer protection clauses in the US constitution...