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Afaik the HDMI signal needs a video carrier.

True. Video processors like the Lumagen Radiance insert a blank blue screen at 720P.

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Does this card work without routing the video through the sound card?
My Onkyo Preamp does not accept the native rate of my display (1366x768) so I must send the video to the display and the audio to the preamp.

This is they way HTPC sound cards have always worked. I do not want an Audio/Video card, I want a sound card with HDMI out.

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I would think/guess you can use the dual DVI out video card in clone mode to send a video signal to the card and another to send to your display. Use whatever works for you and your gear. I am pretty sure it would work in this way though. Kinda of "jerry-rigging" it though..
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I would think/guess you can use the dual DVI out video card in clone mode to send a video signal to the card and another to send to your display. Use whatever works for you and your gear. I am pretty sure it would work in this way though. Kinda of "jerry-rigging" it though..

I think that would be like running 2 monitors, which would mean much worse performance.

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I think that would be like running 2 monitors, which would mean much worse performance.

Why would it mean worse performance? It's just sending 2 digital signals instead of 1. I power my pj and plasma this way, using clone mode from an ATI 2600 and it works fine. No performance problems whatsoever.
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I think that would be like running 2 monitors, which would mean much worse performance.

..in his case though, as he said he needs a solution to his particular issue. I doubt this card will pass HDMI audio without a video signal to integrate into the stream. His receiver will not support the resolution he requires for his display so short of buying a new display or receiver, this is one solution for his situation. Most will be using one cable which is one of the reasons the HDMI technology is so appealing to some.
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..in his case though, as he said he needs a solution to his particular issue. I doubt this card will pass HDMI audio without a video signal to integrate into the stream. His receiver will not support the resolution he requires for his display so short of buying a new display or receiver, this is one solution for his situation. Most will be using one cable which is one of the reasons the HDMI technology is so appealing to some.

Yes. This is correct.
However, the purpose is to use LPCM or Bitstream the audio.
Some may want the video to go that way, others will not.

I have heard that clone mode does not work unless you use AnyDVD.
Geez, it is amazing how these content holders want to force you to circumnavigate the copy protection

It amazes me that HDMI sound card manufacturers had not foreseen this problem. Gimme a break, these cards cost more that a new motherboard with LPCM out and the processor.


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@RichB, I was suggesting this possiblity if he need to do it as it may be about to do it. That is not saying for sure it will work. This is obvisouly not using the card the way it was intended to be used. The idea is to use one cable to hold both audio and video.

For you people who are curious about the output. This card provides 24p True Cinema output.
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Funny how this thread came back to life recently, I wonder why?

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Yep, this just in from Aezun from an email I sent them...

"The Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD supports the 1080p/24hz Passthrough.
It is at the end stage of development, and come to the finish soon.
Please be a member at our website to get the Auzen news and updates as soon as it is available."



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So should be out in November. 24P confirmed.
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Funny how this thread came back to life recently, I wonder why?

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Hmmm. Let's see because we are still looking for Bit-streamed HDMI.
Sometimes, I wonder if the motherboards might provide it before add-in sound cards

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@RichB, I understand Bitstreaming is being looked for the same as 24p is greatly wanted by many around here. Bitstreaming support is why many are following this card.
As for Angels post, it's sarcasm.
Not exactly sure why your quoting me.
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Not exactly sure why your quoting me.

Me neither, so I removed it

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Are you interested in this new Auzentech card Rich?
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Are you interested in this new Auzentech card Rich?

Yes, I have a Prelude now.

I also have a Lumagen Radiance and it generates a 720P blue screen to carry audio so I know it can be done. I really want to send video one way and audio another. If it can't or there is no work around, then I guess I am out of luck.

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Yes, I have a Prelude now.

I also have a Lumagen Radiance and it generates a 720P blue screen to carry audio so I know it can be done. I really want to send video one way and audio another. If it can't or there is no work around, then I guess I am out of luck.

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Is Auzentech Prelude the best sound card for HTPC?

are you happy with it? or would u change it for something else?
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Any word on the deal they where talking about for prelude owners to trade up ?
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Is Auzentech Prelude the best sound card for HTPC?

are you happy with it? or would u change it for something else?


The Prelude is a great soundcard but it is aimed more at the gamer market. However it is good for many things.
For Home theater features it can't compete with the upcoming X-fi HTHD 7.1.
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Any word on the deal they where talking about for prelude owners to trade up ?

They mentioned in the press release they will be offering something of a trade up deal but I think there will be some fine print so some people don't try and take advantage of the offer.
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Any word on the analog section of this card? DAC and opamp part numbers, measured performance and frequency response? To date, there are not any audio cards supporting the PAP required for non-downsampled blu-ray audio.

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The Prelude is a great soundcard but it is aimed more at the gamer market. However it is good for many things.
For Home theater features it can't compete with the upcoming X-fi HTHD 7.1.

if you were to compare the prelude with the new Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty.. (for HTPC)

which one would you choose?
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if you were to compare the prelude with the new Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty.. (for HTPC)

which one would you choose?

The Prelude easily surpasses the Titanium for pure sound quality.
The Prelude is a gamers card though. You can use it for HTPC, but this new X-fi HTHD 7.1 would be the better bet offering more features aimed at HTPC users/builders while still being loaded with features for gamers and other tasks.
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nobody ever confirmed this: will owners of the X-Fi HomeTheater HD have to separately purchase a full version of PowerDVD just to use the card's bitstreaming capabilities? That's what Auzentech's specs suggest, with their mention of "trial" software only being included. But at an MSRP of $249 for the card, that would mean a total outlay of well over $300 to really use it.
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if you were to compare the prelude with the new Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty.. (for HTPC)

which one would you choose?

Are you using analog or spdif?

if it's spdif they are all the same, along with the onboard stuff (for the HTPC crowd).

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Is Auzentech Prelude the best sound card for HTPC?

are you happy with it? or would u change it for something else?

I want HDMI HD Audio, preferably bitstreamed.
I have no interest in gaming or using the analog inputs or outputs.

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nobody ever confirmed this: will owners of the X-Fi HomeTheater HD have to separately purchase a full version of PowerDVD just to use the card's bitstreaming capabilities? That's what Auzentech's specs suggest, with their mention of "trial" software only being included. But at an MSRP of $249 for the card, that would mean a total outlay of well over $300 to really use it.

Yeah compared to $150 blu-ray players coming this Thanksgiving could turn this card into vaporware.
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Yeah compared to $150 blu-ray players coming this Thanksgiving could turn this card into vaporware.

True, but they don't play .iso or FLAC files or give you the convenience of an online library. Let's face it an HTPC is more of a big boys toy. Everything at your fingertips. It's a hobby!

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Yea, SA players have nothing to do w/HTPCs, especially products like this. They're not the same component. I will however be miffed if I have to pay for PowerDVD, _again_.

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2 questions:

1) What happened to the release date? I can see the specs are up on the auzentech page but nothing else.

2) Does it function as a gamer card as well? Can sound from games also be sent out from the HDMI cable? In addition, sound effects like EAX will also work through HDMI cable?
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Seeing these specs, I guess I don't see it mentioned anywhere....but would this card support lossless decoding of truehd and dtsma and output via lossless lpcm? For me to do the bitstream stuff I'd have to get an upgrade board for my receiver.
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