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post #31 of 3161 Old 12-04-2008, 01:58 AM - Thread Starter
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kikistan,

Ok cool, the second half of that data will not be needed for using it with the denon. It would be nice to include some of the information but as far as I'm aware no one has had any luck with that yet.

If you wanted to make it specific for your denon you will need some raw data the same lenght as the raw data you posted for the TV and use the second half from that after HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01

But if its working well and the specs are same? it may not be worth messing with IMO .
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it is working indead

TV Samsung is seen (force TV detection in catalyst). The color are the right one.

The Denon is in HDMI mode

With PowerDVD "The matrix" in dolby trueHD is sent by the computer in LPCM 192

That's exactly what I wanted in the first place

YOU saved me
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hi @ all

i had a similar prob with an sharp fullhd and an onkyo tx-sr576 reciever.
yust test the inf file with edid dtring from tv only and reciever with tv connected but still ccc says is an dvi device. works this solution with xp sp3 ?
the edid override driver is installed but windows still uses the edid data send from reciever.

hope someone had an idea :-)
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So if i understand correctly, i copy the 128 first value of my TV EDID (got from moninfo) after the HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,... and the 128 first value of my AV receiver after the HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,....

Is that correct ?
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Originally Posted by RandomFoe View Post

If you get this working using other equipment please post it here to so other users can copy and paste what they need please include make and model of your products.

Samsung LCDTV LA46F81BD

HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4C,0x2D,0x3A ,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x19,0x11,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x10,0x09 ,0x78,0x0A,0xAE,0xA5,0xA6,0x54,0x4C,0x99,0x26,0x14,0x50,0x54 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01 ,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0x18,0x71 ,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x58,0x2C,0x45,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00 ,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51,0xD0,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55 ,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00 ,0x53,0x41,0x4D,0x53,0x55,0x4E,0x47,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x31,0x3D,0x0F,0x44,0x17,0x00 ,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0xA6

Yamaha RX-V663

HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x02,0x03,0x45,0x75,0x5A,0x85,0x04,0x02,0x03,0x06,0x07 ,0x10,0x0E,0x0F,0x0A,0x0B,0x23,0x24,0x14,0x13,0x11,0x12,0x15 ,0x16,0x1F,0x1D,0x1E,0x19,0x1A,0x25,0x26,0x38,0x09,0x7F,0x07 ,0x0F,0x7F,0x07,0x15,0x07,0x50,0x3E,0x1F,0xC0,0x4D,0x02,0x00 ,0x57,0x06,0x00,0x67,0x54,0x00,0x5F,0x54,0x01,0x83,0x5F,0x00 ,0x00,0x68,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0x11,0x00,0x80,0x21,0x00,0x8C,0x0A ,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0x13,0x8E ,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x90,0x20,0x40,0x31,0x20 ,0x0C,0x40,0x55,0x00,0x13,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x00,0x00 ,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00 ,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x5E

Do I understand correctly that even though the EDIDOverride.inf file contains two very clean lines of data (as shown):

[MS_EDID_OVERRIDE-1_AddReg]
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4C,0x2D,0x3A ,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x19,0x11,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x10,0x09 ,0x78,0x0A,0xAE,0xA5,0xA6,0x54,0x4C,0x99,0x26,0x14,0x50,0x54 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01 ,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0x18,0x71 ,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x58,0x2C,0x45,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00 ,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51,0xD0,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55 ,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00 ,0x53,0x41,0x4D,0x53,0x55,0x4E,0x47,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x31,0x3D,0x0F,0x44,0x17,0x00 ,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0xA6
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x02,0x03,0x45,0x75,0x5A,0x85,0x04,0x02,0x03,0x06,0x07 ,0x10,0x0E,0x0F,0x0A,0x0B,0x23,0x24,0x14,0x13,0x11,0x12,0x15 ,0x16,0x1F,0x1D,0x1E,0x19,0x1A,0x25,0x26,0x38,0x09,0x7F,0x07 ,0x0F,0x7F,0x07,0x15,0x07,0x50,0x3E,0x1F,0xC0,0x4D,0x02,0x00 ,0x57,0x06,0x00,0x67,0x54,0x00,0x5F,0x54,0x01,0x83,0x5F,0x00 ,0x00,0x68,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0x11,0x00,0x80,0x21,0x00,0x8C,0x0A ,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0x13,0x8E ,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x90,0x20,0x40,0x31,0x20 ,0x0C,0x40,0x55,0x00,0x13,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x00,0x00 ,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00 ,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x5E

That you can still jam a bunch of broken lines (copy/paste) to make it look like this?

HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,32,0C,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,11, 01,03,80,1E,13,78,0A,08,85,95,58,53,8C,28,
23,50,54,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,E4,1B,00,A5,50,20,17,30,30,20,
36,00,30,BE,10,00,00,19,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,FE,00,52,
50,37,37,36,04,31,34,31,57,58,31,0A,00,00,00,FE,00,1D,2D,39, 45,6F,97,B7,FB,01,01,0A,20,20,00,9E

Please explain?
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I'm not sure I understand the question correctly.

I had no success without having 0x as a prefix to each value, I tried a couple of things without and the best I could get was a pointless string value in the registry.

With the prefix 0x in place I get the required binary value in the registry.
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thanks randomfoe for getting me onto this method. I finally got the surround sound working and didn't have to resort to buying DVI Detective.

It's quite fiddly to create the inf, just a bit time consuming. moninfo is a great essential tool to extract the correct EDID data from the receiver.

moninfo can be used to check that the correct EDID data is stored in the reg once you've got it going.

my config
OS = Vista 32 bit
card = ASUS AEH4550
receiver = Sony STR-DA2400ES
Catalyst 8.11
realtek 2.09
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moninfo can be used to check that the correct EDID data is stored in the reg once you've got it going.

my config
OS = Vista 32 bit
card = ASUS AEH4550
receiver = Sony STR-DA2400ES
Catalyst 8.11
realtek 2.09

Please post 3 real-time moninfo reports here
PC-TV
PC-Sony-TV
PC-Sony
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Question would it bee a god thing to use a diffrent monitor on the vga output "hd3200 780g mb" when you extract the raw edid data from the receiver and dont use the tv at all in that sequense.
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I had this same issue with an nVidia 9600GT and a Samsung PN50A550 plasma. After googling for a day and a half, managed to hack together a regedit that fixed it! I was elated. So, I moved my HTPC to my other system with a 21" CRT to do some software installs and configuration, moved it back down to the TV, NO SOUND! I spent another half a day doing the exact same thing I had done to get it working before, no dice. So, I picked up some connectors at my local electronics store, made a cable to patch the SPDIF from the MB to the 9600, updated the audio drivers (2.10 - Realtek), removed and reinstalled the video drivers, rebooted - viola! Sound over DVI-HDMI cable! I also hear that if you have an SPDIF in on the ATI cards, they can also inject digital audio over DVI. So, if you get tired of futzing with the registry, and have a video card that has SPDIF in, go this easy route.

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737- 39986: Absence of Audio through the HDMI connection when using HDMI Receivers
Video Driver:
ATI CatalystT Display Driver 8.11 or higher
HDMI Receiver:
HDMI Receivers (various brands and models)
Graphics Card (any of the following):

ATI RadeonT HD 4000 Series
ATI RadeonT HD 3000 Series
ATI RadeonT HD 2000 Series
ATI FireProT V5700
ATI FireProT V8700
ATI FireGLT V7600
ATI FireGLT V7700
ATI FireGLT V8600
ATI FireGLT V8650

Operating System (any of the following):
Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
Windows Vista 64-bit Edition
Windows XP Professional
Windows XP Home Edition
Windows XP Media Center Edition
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Symptoms:
In CatalystT Control Center, the HDMI connection is detected as a DVI connection. This results in the absence of an audio signal through the HDMI connection for any of the above video driver / graphics card / OS combinations.
Workaround:
AMD is investigating this issue. In some cases, connecting the HDMI cable from the graphics card to another HDMI input on the HDMI receiver may resolve the issue. In other cases the HDMI input designed for DVD may work correctly with the graphics card.

AMD plans to continue to investigate the issue and will publish any updates that become available.

ERP #245470

Well we got their attension allright, it´s a pity that I made a mezz of the override.inf file I did something wrong the first time and now Vista won´t let
me install the driver even after system restore it say something can´t save to archive O how I just love Xp
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The 8.12 AMD driver, supposed to repair the DVI/HDMI malfunction, didn't work for me. So I tried your solution and it works great.
I was searching for days and days ... Thank you!

The Raw Data for my receiver (Denon AVCA1HD, european version of US 5308) :
0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x11,0xEE,0x0A,0x00, 0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x00,0x11,0x01,0x03,0x80,0xDD,0x7D,0x78, 0x2A,0x6B,0xE9,0xAB,0x54,0x4C,0xAF,0x24,0x0B,0x48,0x4A,0x00, 0x00,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0X01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01, 0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x1D,0x80,0x18,0x71,0x1C, 0x16,0x20,0x58,0x2C,0x25,0x00,0xA2,0xE2,0x84,0x00,0x00,0x9E, 0x01,0x1D,0x80,0xD0,0x72,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x10,0x2C,0x25,0x80, 0xA2,0xE2,0x84,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0X00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x44, 0x45,0x4E,0x4F,0x4E,0x2D,0x41,0x56,0x41,0x4D,0x50,0x0A,0x20, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x17,0x3D,0x0F,0x44,0x0F,0x00,0x0A, 0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0x0E,0x02,0x03,0x3B,0x71, 0x52,0x85,0x94,0x90,0x9F,0x04,0x13,0x02,0x11,0x06,0x15,0x20, 0x01,0x0E,0x23,0x1D,0x25,0x0A,0x19,0x38,0x0F,0x7F,0x07,0x3D, 0x1E,0xC0,0x15,0x07,0x50,0x5F,0x7E,0x01,0x57,0x06,0x00,0x65, 0x7E,0x00,0x67,0x1E,0x00,0x4D,0x02,0x00,0x83,0x5F,0x00,0x00, 0x66,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0x11,0x00,0x80,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0x18,0x71, 0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x58,0x2C,0x45,0x00,0xA2,0xE2,0x84,0x00,0x00, 0x1E,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0xD0,0x72,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x10,0x2C,0x45, 0x80,0xA2,0xE2,0x84,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51, 0xD0,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55,0x00,0xA2,0xE2,0x84,0x00,0x00, 0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0xE8
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I have just run Moninfo with my set-up.

I am posting the real-time information it output.

I have been trying to understand the process that has been described here as a workaround/fix for getting my AMD ATI 4670 card to successfully pass multi-channel PCM to my Onkyo SR-606.

I am having difficulty in understanding how to make up this new file and where to put it to fix this problem. I assume it somehow gives the correct EDID
information...to the receiver??

Can someone describe how I do this?

I see we are meant to use existing EDID information(not from my Sony LCD)
and paste it into some file?
Then transfer this and replace the original File so as to activate a more complete set of EDID info and thus allow more audio formats to be used/played?

Below is the real-time info from Moninfo...for my set-up.
Can anyone give me some pointers ...TIA

***********************************************
Monitor
Model name............... TX-SR606
Manufacturer............. Onkyo
Plug and Play ID......... ONK0863
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 0
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1600 x 900 mm (72.3")
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
-------------------------
DDC/CI support........... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 14-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 48-62Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
DTV underscan............ Not supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 0
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1116 1121 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 741 746 750 +hsync +vsync

CE timings supported
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
1440 x 576p at 50Hz - DVD (16:9, 32:45)
2880 x 480i at 60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27-80:27)
2880 x 576i at 50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45-160:45)
2880 x 576i at 50Hz - Console (4:3, 2:15-20:15)
1440 x 576p at 50Hz - DVD (4:3, 8:15)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
2880 x 480i at 60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9-20:9)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
2880 x 576p at 50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45)
2880 x 576p at 50Hz - Console (4:3, 4:15)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio formats supported
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
LPCM 4-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
AC-3 4-channel, 640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
DTS 4-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 44/48 kHz
SACD 2-channel at 44 kHz
DD+ 4-channel at 44/48 kHz
DTS-HD 4-channel, 16-bit at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
DVD-A 4-channel at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ Yes
Front center............. Yes
Rear left/right.......... Yes
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... Yes

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0x0013
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz
Data payload............. 2DC000000000

Report information
Date generated........... 6/12/2008
Software revision........ 2.0.0.705
Raw data................. 00FFFFFFFFFFFF003DCB6308000000000012010380A05A780A0DC9A05747 9827
......................... 12484C21080081800101010101010101010101010101023A801871382D40 582C
......................... 450040846300001E011D007251D01E206E28550040846300001E000000FC 0054
......................... 582D53523630360A20202020000000FD00303E0E460F000A202020202020 0180
......................... 02034F705C1F0304121305142007161015110206010F1E0B1A191D0E0A24 2625
......................... 2338097F070F7F071707503F06C04D02005706005F7E01675400834F0000 6C03
......................... 0C001300B82DC000000000E3050301023A80D072382D40102C4580408463 0000
......................... 1E011D00BC52D01E20B828554040846300001E0000000000000000000000 00EC
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I understand that if I go into Device manager in Vista 32
and look under Monitors...I have Generic PnP Monitor shown there.
So I use the modified .inf file and update the existing driver with
the modified .inf driver.

What I am having trouble following is where I get the monitor EDID
and AV Receiver EDID info from?
Is this from the output provided by Moninfo?
Do I need to do two separate readings from Moninfo?
One with just the Monitor directly connected to the HTPC...
and then one with the AV Receiver connected?
Although how do you get a reading from just the Receiver?
I mean you need a monitor connected to see the Receiver info!?

As I said I have a Sony KDL-46W3100 46inch LCD
and Onkyo SR606.

Or is it good enough to just use the other people's .inf
such as RandomFoe's original .inf ???

I am mainly wanting multi-channel PCM output..which I dont get
at the moment...
because I figure my ATI 4670(CCC8.11)is viewing only the DVI connection
and not as HDMI.

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So now I have gone and just connected my Sony LCD direct to my ATI 4670
via HDMI to HDMI connection.
Then I went into Moninfo and saved a report from the Sony (after rebooting with new connection of course).

So do I have to use the raw data and put in all those 0x ...in front of each two figures....ie 0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4D...

Here is the report from my Sony via Moninfo:

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Monitor #1 [Real-time 0x0031]
Model name............... SONY TV XV
Manufacturer............. Sony
Plug and Play ID......... SNY8500
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2007, ISO week 1
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1600 x 900 mm (72.3 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 14-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 48-62Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
DTV underscan............ Not supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 0
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1116 1121 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 741 746 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1148 1158 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

CE video data (timings supported)
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0.1.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz

Report information
Date generated........... 6/12/2008
Software revision........ 2.11.0.760
Raw data................. 00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4D,D9,00,85,01,01,01,01,01,11,01,03, 80,A0,5A,78,0A,0D,C9,A0,57,47,98,27,
......................... 12,48,4C,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
......................... 45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00, 40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
......................... 4F,4E,59,20,54,56,20,58,56,0A,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,30,3E,0E, 46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,BD,
......................... 02,03,29,70,50,1F,03,04,12,13,05,14,20,07,16,10,15,11,02,06, 01,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,
......................... 00,10,00,B8,2D,E3,05,03,01,02,3A,80,D0,72,38,2D,40,10,2C,45, 80,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,BC,52,
......................... D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16, 20,58,2C,25,00,40,84,63,00,00,9E,01,
......................... 1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80,40,84,63,00,00,9E,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,81
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Then do the same for the raw data from my Onkyo report before ..that is put in the 0x???

Then put this part on the front "HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01" followed by EDID data (change this to suit or tv/monitor)...in this case the raw data changed from my Sony report???

Then put this part on the front "HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01" followed by EDID data (change this to suit your reciever)...in this case the changed Raw data from my Onkyo report???

Is this how I make my new .inf file to load in via the driver area for the Generic
PnP monitor???
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That's the way i understand it although I have not tried it myself yet as I'm waiting for my Onkyo to be delivered.

I think it's very important to follow the instructions posted by Mevlock and make sure you end up with one continuous line if you use notepad.


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If your trying to get the info from MonInfo make sure your very very careful creating the EDID block data. I'm sure there's an easier way to do it but I copied and pasted the sections into notepad, removed all the rubbish, made sure wordwrap was off and that therefore there was just one long sting of text for each section. Then add the 0x's (I used ctrl+v for each one heh) and copy and paste both lines back into the inf. Make sure you leave HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01 and HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01, in place and paste AFTER that, overwriting the old data.

Of course there is an easier way to add all the '0x' by using notepad's replace function, the common character in the string is the ',' (comma) so just use the replace function to replace the ',' with ',0x' (comma, zero,x) this will add to all the bytes but the first one which you can just do manually, then you can just paste the complete single line into the .inf.

Then you must do the same for your AVR, I would do this by by running Moninfo then removing the HDMI lead from the TV and plug it into the AVR, switch on the AVR and give it time to boot up then press the f5 button on the keyboard which should refresh the Moninfo data but this time from your AVR (ofcourse you will be doing this blind as you cannot see screen but should work)

This is my interpretation of the instructions but I stand to be corrected
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Thanks bingobill for your reply....

with regards the AVR(onkyo SR606) raw data from moninfo
I thought because my ATI 4670 is already connected to my AVR via HDMI
that the original report I posted here showing the raw data would be okay??

Or do I need to unplug the connection from the AVR to my Sony LCD and use the F5 key as you mentioned to refresh the Moninfo??
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Or do I need to unplug the connection from the AVR to my Sony LCD and use the F5 key as you mentioned to refresh the Moninfo??

I would do the TV and the AVR each in turn with a direct single connection but as i say, this is the way I understand it.
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Just unplugged my AVR to Sony LCD connection and followed your advice using F5 to update the Moninfo ...and then saved the report info

So I just had the ASUS 4670 connected to Onkyo SR606 via an HDMI to HDMI connection.

I have just looked at the raw data from my original post of SR606 and the new report when the Sony was disconnected and there are differences.

Original SR606 raw data I posted
Raw data................. 00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,3D,CB,63,08,00,00,00,00,00,12,01,03, 80,A0,5A,78,0A,0D,C9,A0,57,47,98,27,
......................... 12,48,4C,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
......................... 45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00, 40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FC,00,54,
......................... 58,2D,53,52,36,30,36,0A,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,30,3E,0E, 46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,80,
......................... 02,03,4F,70,5C,1F,03,04,12,13,05,14,20,07,16,10,15,11,02,06, 01,0F,1E,0B,1A,19,1D,0E,0A,24,26,25,
......................... 23,38,09,7F,07,0F,7F,07,17,07,50,3F,06,C0,4D,02,00,57,06,00, 5F,7E,01,67,54,00,83,4F,00,00,6C,03,
......................... 0C,00,13,00,B8,2D,C0,00,00,00,00,E3,05,03,01,02,3A,80,D0,72, 38,2D,40,10,2C,45,80,40,84,63,00,00,
......................... 1E,01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,EC


and the updated raw data with the Sony LCD disconnected

Raw data................. 00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,3D,CB,63,08,00,00,00,00,00,12,01,03, 80,00,00,78,0A,0D,C9,A0,57,47,98,27,
......................... 12,48,4C,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,
......................... 25,00,C4,8E,21,00,00,9E,01,1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80, C4,8E,21,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,54,
......................... 58,2D,53,52,36,30,36,0A,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,17,F0,0F, 7E,11,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,8E,
......................... 02,03,3E,72,55,85,04,03,02,0E,0F,07,23,24,10,94,13,12,11,1D, 1E,16,25,26,01,1F,38,09,7F,07,0F,7F,
......................... 07,17,07,50,3F,06,C0,4D,02,00,57,06,00,5F,7E,01,67,54,00,83, 4F,00,00,66,03,0C,00,30,00,80,8C,0A,
......................... D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,C4,8E,21,00,00,18,8C,0A,D0,90, 20,40,31,20,0C,40,55,00,C4,8E,21,00,
......................... 00,18,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,C4,8E,21,00,00,1E, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,82

So now its just a matter of going thru and putting in all those 0x..sss
for both the raw data from the Onkyo and the Sony!
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So thanks bingobill... that copy replace information certainly made the job easier!!
So I have replaced the original section from RandomFoe's .inf file with the
new data from both the Sony moninfo and the Onkyo Moninfo.

Here is what it looks like.
There seems to be a lot more lines of info for each in my new ones??
There was only six lines for each(Tv and Receiver) in RandomFoe's .inf ??

Anyone see any problems/issues here??

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[MS_EDID_OVERRIDE-1_AddReg]
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4D,0xD9,0x00 ,0x85,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x11,0x01,0x03,0x80,0xA0,0x5A ,0x78,0x0A,0x0D,0xC9,0xA0,0x57,0x47,0x98,0x27,0x
12,0x48,0x4C,0x21,0x08,0x00,0x81,0x80,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x 01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x02,0x3A,0x 80,0x18,0x71,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x58,0x2C,0x
45,0x00,0x40,0x84,0x63,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x 51,0xD0,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55,0x00,0x40,0x84,0x63,0x00,0x 00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x53,0x
4F,0x4E,0x59,0x20,0x54,0x56,0x20,0x58,0x56,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x 00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x30,0x3E,0x0E,0x46,0x0F,0x00,0x0A,0x 20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0xBD,0x
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00,0x10,0x00,0xB8,0x2D,0xE3,0x05,0x03,0x01,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0x D0,0x72,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x10,0x2C,0x45,0x80,0x40,0x84,0x63,0x 00,0x00,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0xBC,0x52,0x
D0,0x1E,0x20,0xB8,0x28,0x55,0x40,0x40,0x84,0x63,0x00,0x00,0x 1E,0x01,0x1D,0x80,0x18,0x71,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x58,0x2C,0x25,0x 00,0x40,0x84,0x63,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0x01,0x
1D,0x80,0xD0,0x72,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x10,0x2C,0x25,0x80,0x40,0x 84,0x63,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x 00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x81
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x3D,0xCB,0x63 ,0x08,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x12,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x00,0x00 ,0x78,0x0A,0x0D,0xC9,0xA0,0x57,0x47,0x98,0x27,0x
12,0x48,0x4C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x 01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x1D,0x 80,0x18,0x71,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x58,0x2C,0x
25,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0x01,0x1D,0x80,0xD0,0x 72,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x10,0x2C,0x25,0x80,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x 00,0x9E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x54,0x
58,0x2D,0x53,0x52,0x36,0x30,0x36,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x 00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x17,0xF0,0x0F,0x7E,0x11,0x00,0x0A,0x 20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0x8E,0x
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I have just tried to replace the present Generic PnP monitor driver
with the one I made ...and it comes back telling me that

"Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date"

How do I override this??

or is there something wrong with my driver or .inf file??
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Here is copy of the file I'm trying to use...

Anyone see any problems with this file??

Anyone able to shine some light on how I can get Vista 32 to accept my driver for the Generic Monitor??

Thanks

 

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Sorry didnt read the fine detail from RandomFoe's original post

I have now been able to try and install the driver ...but it is now telling
it encountered a problem while trying to install the driver.
So it failed...

Can anyone look at my attached .inf file in my previous post and
tell me what the problem is ??
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There seems to be some unwanted carriage returns in there, try this one i corrected

 

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Here is one, I have tried to split up your data into the correct blocks give it a try and let us know how you go.

 

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Thanks bingobill and RandomFoe!

Will give this a try and let you know the results!
I'm gettin excited now ...hope this works!
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Of course there is an easier way to add all the '0x' by using notepad's replace function, the common character in the string is the ',' (comma) so just use the replace function to replace the ',' with ',0x' (comma, zero,x) this will add to all the bytes but the first one which you can just do manually, then you can just paste the complete single line into the .inf.

Man I knew their was an eaiser way then doing it by hand! I should have thought of this.... O'well I was tired and just wanted to get things done last night. I am sure your post will save countless others some repetative stress!!

I will post my EDID strings later today, Thanks Randomfoe! Another retired DVID added to the list.
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Dah! Dah! A little while ago I was dancing round the room...going Yes! Yes!

I now have Multi-Channel PCM output from my ASUS 4670!!

...plus in the ATI Control Centre ..there now appears my Sony Xv monitor...that
is no longer do I get the DTV(DVI) appearance ...but now the DTV(HDMI)!!

I have been playing various videos and rebooting to try and see if it will break...
there was an initial hiccup ...but it now appears solid!

So finally I can make use of the ATI cards multi-channel PCM output!
I know I said that..already!

Big Thank you to RandomFoe!!..for his work!!

and to bingobill for your help!!

Only trouble now is a few extras have popped up in the Catalyst Control Centre...which werent there before! Do I use full RGB 4:4:4 or
Full YCbCr 4:4:4? Something more to study and learn about!
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