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credditt's Avatar credditt 09:38 AM 11-26-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

What issues? Your setup (OS, graphic adapter, graphic driver, etc.)?

Thanks for your reply. Here's my setup:

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit
Core i3-2100
HIS Radeon HD 5450 video card
Catalyst Control Center 11.11
Graphics driver is AMD 8.911.0.0
Sound driver changed from AMD to Realtek HDMI audio driver 6.0.1.6409

When I assembled my HTPC I tried to play blu-ray rips using the Intel integrated graphics, but I got major vido stuttering and audio dropouts. I added the Radeon HD 5450 card to try and help. Upon installing the HD 5450 I first used the AMD drivers provided with the video card. When I played any video--live tv, recorded tv, etc--the first few seconds of audio would repeat in a loop for a few seconds, then Media Center would display an error message telling me to reboot. I updated the AMD drivers to the latest ones with the same result. I then installed the Realtek HDMI audio driver it now works fine for everything except blu-ray rips. When I play a blu-ray rip in TMT5, I just get loud, screeching sounds through the speakers. The screeching seems to happen regardless of the audio settings in TMT5. Even after closing TMT5 it persists until I reboot. In researching the screeching issue I found someone who reported that an EDID override fixed this issue for him.

Thanks again for your input.

Tulli's Avatar Tulli 01:40 PM 11-26-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by credditt View Post

Thanks for your reply. Here's my setup:

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit
Core i3-2100
HIS Radeon HD 5450 video card
Catalyst Control Center 11.11
Graphics driver is AMD 8.911.0.0
Sound driver changed from AMD to Realtek HDMI audio driver 6.0.1.6409

When I assembled my HTPC I tried to play blu-ray rips using the Intel integrated graphics, but I got major vido stuttering and audio dropouts. I added the Radeon HD 5450 card to try and help. Upon installing the HD 5450 I first used the AMD drivers provided with the video card. When I played any video--live tv, recorded tv, etc--the first few seconds of audio would repeat in a loop for a few seconds, then Media Center would display an error message telling me to reboot. I updated the AMD drivers to the latest ones with the same result. I then installed the Realtek HDMI audio driver it now works fine for everything except blu-ray rips. When I play a blu-ray rip in TMT5, I just get loud, screeching sounds through the speakers. The screeching seems to happen regardless of the audio settings in TMT5. Even after closing TMT5 it persists until I reboot. In researching the screeching issue I found someone who reported that an EDID override fixed this issue for him.

Thanks again for your input.

Uninstall the Realtek and use the native ATI HDMI audio driver. Specifically try the 11.4 version, which is known to work fine with TMT5. An EDID override is not required for your setup.
credditt's Avatar credditt 08:45 PM 11-26-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Uninstall the Realtek and use the native ATI HDMI audio driver. Specifically try the 11.4 version, which is known to work fine with TMT5. An EDID override is not required for your setup.

Thanks Tulli. I see on AMD's website where I can download Catalyst Software Suite 11.4 or the display driver version 11.4. I don't see an audio driver specifically. Do you recommend installing the entire Catalyst Suite? or does the display driver also include an audio driver (since HDMI does video as well as audio)? Thanks.
GreenEyez's Avatar GreenEyez 09:36 PM 11-26-2011
Hey Tulli. I`ve been having trouble getting 24p switching/playback on my secondary HTPC. It`s an AMD Zacate (E350 APU) connected to a Sony KDL 40L4000 LCD.
The simptoms are severe shuttering when using either the MPC-HC auto refresh rate switching or the built in XBMC one. If i set the refreash rate/ resolution to 1080p/24 in the ATI CCC settings, playback is fine. I`ve also tested this on a OpenELEC install, and and had no issues with the built in XBMC refresh rate switcher, so it`s cleary something in the Windows driver or EDID info that`s messed up.

Just for the record, auto switching the refresh rate on my main plasma/HT setup with the other Zacate HTPC works fine, latest AMD drivers on both. What do you think, would and EDID override/modification solve anything?
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 04:14 AM 11-27-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by credditt View Post

Thanks Tulli. I see on AMD's website where I can download Catalyst Software Suite 11.4 or the display driver version 11.4. I don't see an audio driver specifically. Do you recommend installing the entire Catalyst Suite? or does the display driver also include an audio driver (since HDMI does video as well as audio)? Thanks.

The HDMI audio driver is included. Check that you can do a custom install of the HDMI audio driver only.

Or you may only install the full 11.4 package and then the latest driver (if you really need to) by deselecting the HDMI audio driver on the custom install window.

Or extract 11.4 by only starting the program without going on with the installation, and then manually updating the HDMI audio driver on Device Manager.
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 04:33 AM 11-27-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Hey Tulli. I`ve been having trouble getting 24p switching/playback on my secondary HTPC. It`s an AMD Zacate (E350 APU) connected to a Sony KDL 40L4000 LCD.
The simptoms are severe shuttering when using either the MPC-HC auto refresh rate switching or the built in XBMC one. If i set the refreash rate/ resolution to 1080p/24 in the ATI CCC settings, playback is fine. I`ve also tested this on a OpenELEC install, and and had no issues with the built in XBMC refresh rate switcher, so it`s cleary something in the Windows driver or EDID info that`s messed up.

Just for the record, auto switching the refresh rate on my main plasma/HT setup with the other Zacate HTPC works fine, latest AMD drivers on both. What do you think, would and EDID override/modification solve anything?

Should be a driver/application problem. MPC-HC stats (ctrl-4) show frames dropped. But anyway MPC-HC autorefresh never really worked for me (don't know about XBMC). I use madVR autorefresh that works without a glitch.

In any case it's not an EDID issue.
credditt's Avatar credditt 05:12 PM 11-27-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

The HDMI audio driver is included. Check that you can do a custom install of the HDMI audio driver only.

Or you may only install the full 11.4 package and then the latest driver (if you really need to) by deselecting the HDMI audio driver on the custom install window.

Or extract 11.4 by only starting the program without going on with the installation, and then manually updating the HDMI audio driver on Device Manager.

Thanks Tulli. The 11.4 audio driver is installed, and it fixed the screeching sounds. The blu-ray rips will now play, but only in stereo. It won't bitstream HD audio formats to my AVR. Time to start trouble shooting that now.
backdoor's Avatar backdoor 05:14 PM 11-27-2011
I'm upgrading my HTPC graphic card to support HDMI bitstream audio. I am hoping to avoid EDID issues by purchasing the proper graphic card for my configuration. Advice??

HTPC win7 mce, Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, Intel G33 chipset,
PCI Express x16 slot available (PCIe 1.1)

AVR- Pioneer VSX-1021-K

Display- JVC DLA-RS15
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 05:37 PM 11-27-2011
The problem won't be the graphic card but how the Pioneer AVR will resolve the JVC EDID. I presume that given that the RS15 is not 3D (right?) you should have no EDID issues. So IMO EDID detection would not be a reason to choose the graphic card in your case.
huyzzer's Avatar huyzzer 07:48 PM 11-30-2011
Hello all,

I've been scouring the forum for a while now trying to resolve my issue.

The problem i'm having is that no video is displaying when I connect my GPU (GTX560 Nvidea EVGA-> Pioneer VSX-821-k (3d capable) -> LG 60PS80 (plasma non-3d) all via hdmi. It worked perfectly fine when I had my 6 year old Yamaha receiver a few months ago. When connected to my Pioneer AVR, my Nvidia control panel said that my receiver was no HDCP compatible, how can it not be?

I also have a Westinghouse 37" LCD (LVM-37w1) that I use as my main monitor via DVI. When I have my PC hooked directly to the LG (via hdmi) and Westinghouse, both work fine when extended and duplicated. (worked when I had my yamaha as well)

I'm not concerned about the audio, but if I can get the audio to work with the hdmi that would be great!

I've tried the Moninfo steps to create the EDID Override but i'm not sure how to decipher it nor know if I did something wrong. Followed Tulli's and a number of other posts step by step too! Either way, i've tried it several times with no luck. In fact, i'm not even sure if it's an EDID issue so i'm hoping someone will be able to help!

My setup is:

Gigabyte P35-DS3P - Core 2 Quad
EVGA GTX560 nvidia 285.62
Win 7 64bit Ultimate

So I used moninfo and have the following inf files:

- GTX560 to LG Plasma -

Quote:
[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Monitor
ClassGUID={4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider=%MFG%
DriverVer=11/30/2011, 1.0.0.0
;CatalogFile=YourSignedCatalogFile.cat

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir=23

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%DISC%

[SourceDisksFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm

[Manufacturer]
%VENDOR%=EDID_OVERRIDE,NTx86,NTamd64

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTx86]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install, MONITOR\\GSM0001

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTamd64]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64, MONITOR\\GSM0001

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg]
;Base EDID
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x1E,0x6D,0x01 ,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x00,0x13,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x73,0x41 ,0x96,0x0A,0xCF,0x74,0xA3,0x57,0x4C,0xB0,0x23,0x09,0x48,0x4C ,0xA1,0x08,0x00,0x31,0x40,0x45,0x40,0x61,0x40,0x81,0x80,0xA9 ,0x40,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x1A,0x36,0x80,0xA0,0x70 ,0x38,0x1F,0x40,0x30,0x20,0x35,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00 ,0x1A,0x66,0x21,0x50,0xB0,0x51,0x00,0x1B,0x30,0x40,0x70,0x36 ,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00 ,0x39,0x3F,0x1F,0x52,0x11,0x00,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x4C,0x47,0x20,0x54,0x56,0x0A ,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0x3A
;Extension bloc #1, e.g., CEA-EXT, DID-EXT, etc.
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x02,0x03,0x1C,0xF1,0x47,0x84,0x05,0x03,0x02,0x20,0x22 ,0x10,0x23,0x09,0x07,0x07,0x67,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0x30,0x00,0xB8 ,0x2D,0xE3,0x05,0x03,0x01,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51,0xD0,0x1E ,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x01 ,0x1D,0x80,0x18,0x71,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x58,0x2C,0x25,0x00,0xC4 ,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D ,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x8C ,0x0A,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0x13 ,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x0E,0x1F,0x00,0x80,0x51,0x00,0x1E ,0x30,0x40,0x80,0x37,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x1C,0x00 ,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1F

[DEL_CURRENT_REG]
HKR,MODES
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE
HKR,,MaxResolution
HKR,,PreferredMode
HKR,,DPMS
HKR,,ICMProfile

[DPMS]
HKR,,DPMS,,0

HKR,,PreferredMode,,"1920,1080,60"
[MODE1]
HKR,,MaxResolution,,"1920,1080,60"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg]
HKR,"MODES\\1920,1080,60",Mode1,,"31.0-82.0,57.0-63.0,+,+"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm for non-sRGB displays

[Strings]
MFG="EnTech Taiwan"
DISC="Monitor EDID Override Installation Disk"
PRODUCTID="LGE LG TV (GSM0001 EDID Override)"
VENDOR="LGE"
GTX560 to Pioneer AVR

Quote:
[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Monitor
ClassGUID={4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider=%MFG%
DriverVer=11/30/2011, 1.0.0.0
;CatalogFile=YourSignedCatalogFile.cat

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir=23

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%DISC%

[SourceDisksFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm

[Manufacturer]
%VENDOR%=EDID_OVERRIDE,NTx86,NTamd64

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTx86]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install, MONITOR\\PIO0000

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTamd64]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64, MONITOR\\PIO0000

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg]
;Base EDID
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x41,0x2F,0x00 ,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x00,0x15,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x73,0x41 ,0x96,0x0A,0xCF,0x74,0xA3,0x57,0x4C,0xB0,0x23,0x09,0x48,0x4C ,0xA1,0x08,0x00,0x31,0x40,0x45,0x40,0x61,0x40,0x81,0x80,0xA9 ,0x40,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x1A,0x36,0x80,0xA0,0x70 ,0x38,0x1F,0x40,0x30,0x20,0x35,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00 ,0x1A,0x66,0x21,0x50,0xB0,0x51,0x00,0x1B,0x30,0x40,0x70,0x36 ,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00 ,0x39,0x3F,0x1F,0x52,0x11,0x00,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x56,0x53,0x58,0x2D,0x38,0x32 ,0x31,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0x28
;Extension bloc #1, e.g., CEA-EXT, DID-EXT, etc.
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x02,0x03,0x35,0xF1,0x47,0x84,0x05,0x03,0x02,0x20,0x22 ,0x10,0x38,0x09,0x7F,0x07,0x0F,0x7F,0x07,0x15,0x07,0x50,0x3E ,0x1E,0xC0,0x49,0x2A,0x00,0x57,0x06,0x00,0x5F,0x7F,0x01,0x67 ,0x7F,0x00,0x67,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0x33,0x00,0xB8,0x2D,0xE3,0x05 ,0x03,0x01,0x83,0x4F,0x00,0x00,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51,0xD0 ,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x1E ,0x01,0x1D,0x80,0x18,0x71,0x1C,0x16,0x20,0x58,0x2C,0x25,0x00 ,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x9E,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0 ,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0xC4,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18 ,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00 ,0x13,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x00,0x00,0xC4

[DEL_CURRENT_REG]
HKR,MODES
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE
HKR,,MaxResolution
HKR,,PreferredMode
HKR,,DPMS
HKR,,ICMProfile

[DPMS]
HKR,,DPMS,,0

HKR,,PreferredMode,,"1920,1080,60"
[MODE1]
HKR,,MaxResolution,,"1920,1080,60"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg]
HKR,"MODES\\1920,1080,60",Mode1,,"31.0-82.0,57.0-63.0,+,+"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm for non-sRGB displays

[Strings]
MFG="EnTech Taiwan"
DISC="Monitor EDID Override Installation Disk"
PRODUCTID="Pioneer VSX-821 (PIO0000 EDID Override)"
VENDOR="Pioneer"
GTX560 to Westinghouse - Just posting this just in case since i'm trying to display video to both screens. This one is connected via DVI so no audio

Quote:
[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Monitor
ClassGUID={4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider=%MFG%
DriverVer=11/30/2011, 1.0.0.0
;CatalogFile=YourSignedCatalogFile.cat

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir=23

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%DISC%

[SourceDisksFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm

[Manufacturer]
%VENDOR%=EDID_OVERRIDE,NTx86,NTamd64

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTx86]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install, MONITOR\\WDE3701

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTamd64]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64, MONITOR\\WDE3701

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg]
;Base EDID
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x5C,0x85,0x01 ,0x37,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x18,0x0F,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x52,0x2E ,0x78,0x2A,0x55,0x50,0xA7,0x55,0x46,0x99,0x24,0x12,0x49,0x4B ,0xBF,0xEF,0x80,0x71,0x4F,0x81,0x80,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01 ,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x1A,0x36,0x80,0xA0,0x70 ,0x38,0x1F,0x40,0x30,0x20,0x25,0x00,0x34,0xCD,0x31,0x00,0x00 ,0x1A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFE,0x00,0x57,0x65,0x73,0x74,0x69,0x6E ,0x67,0x68,0x6F,0x75,0x73,0x65,0x0A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00 ,0x32,0x4B,0x1E,0x50,0x0E,0x00,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20 ,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x4C,0x56,0x4D,0x2D,0x33,0x37 ,0x77,0x31,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x1E

[DEL_CURRENT_REG]
HKR,MODES
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE
HKR,,MaxResolution
HKR,,PreferredMode
HKR,,DPMS
HKR,,ICMProfile

[DPMS]
HKR,,DPMS,,1

HKR,,PreferredMode,,"1920,1080,60"
[MODE1]
HKR,,MaxResolution,,"1920,1080,60"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg]
HKR,"MODES\\1920,1080,60",Mode1,,"30.0-80.0,50.0-75.0,+,+"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm for non-sRGB displays

[Strings]
MFG="EnTech Taiwan"
DISC="Monitor EDID Override Installation Disk"
PRODUCTID="Westinghouse LVM-37w1 (WDE3701 EDID Override)"
VENDOR="Westinghouse"
Any help or insight as to what i'm doing wrong or if it's out of my control would be fabulous. Please let me know if there's additional information needed. Thanks again for the help. I've attached the inf files as well.

 

Huyzzer INF files.zip 4.6953125k . file
Attached: Huyzzer INF files.zip (4.7 KB) 
PavilionX's Avatar PavilionX 12:28 AM 12-01-2011
Hi!
I managed to get 6ch through a EDID override with AMD Hdmi audio driver, but when i install Realtek Hdmi Audio Drivers the override stops wokring and i only get 2ch again.

How can i get the Realtek ones to work? I like to you realtek audio manager for setting up my speakers.

Thx!
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 10:55 AM 12-01-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by huyzzer View Post
Hello all,

I've been scouring the forum for a while now trying to resolve my issue.

The problem i'm having is that no video is displaying when I connect my GPU (GTX560 Nvidea EVGA-> Pioneer VSX-821-k (3d capable) -> LG 60PS80 (plasma non-3d) all via hdmi. It worked perfectly fine when I had my 6 year old Yamaha receiver a few months ago. When connected to my Pioneer AVR, my Nvidia control panel said that my receiver was no HDCP compatible, how can it not be?

I also have a Westinghouse 37" LCD (LVM-37w1) that I use as my main monitor via DVI. When I have my PC hooked directly to the LG (via hdmi) and Westinghouse, both work fine when extended and duplicated. (worked when I had my yamaha as well)

I'm not concerned about the audio, but if I can get the audio to work with the hdmi that would be great!

I've tried the Moninfo steps to create the EDID Override but i'm not sure how to decipher it nor know if I did something wrong. Followed Tulli's and a number of other posts step by step too! Either way, i've tried it several times with no luck. In fact, i'm not even sure if it's an EDID issue so i'm hoping someone will be able to help!

My setup is:

Gigabyte P35-DS3P - Core 2 Quad
EVGA GTX560 nvidia 285.62
Win 7 64bit Ultimate

So I used moninfo and have the following inf files:

- GTX560 to LG Plasma -



GTX560 to Pioneer AVR



GTX560 to Westinghouse - Just posting this just in case since i'm trying to display video to both screens. This one is connected via DVI so no audio



Any help or insight as to what i'm doing wrong or if it's out of my control would be fabulous. Please let me know if there's additional information needed. Thanks again for the help. I've attached the inf files as well.
Try the attached EDID override.

 

Pioneer to LGTV (Fixed).zip 1.2646484375k . file
Attached: Pioneer to LGTV (Fixed).zip (1.3 KB) 
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 10:56 AM 12-01-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by PavilionX View Post

Hi!
I managed to get 6ch through a EDID override with AMD Hdmi audio driver, but when i install Realtek Hdmi Audio Drivers the override stops wokring and i only get 2ch again.

How can i get the Realtek ones to work? I like to you realtek audio manager for setting up my speakers.

Thx!

No chance, you must use the native AMD HDMI audio driver.
huyzzer's Avatar huyzzer 09:50 PM 12-01-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Try the attached EDID override.

Hi Tulli,

Thanks for the quick response and your help on this! I'm still running into the no video issue. I don't believe it's your EDID, but perhaps user error on my part. Here's what I did so please let me know if I did something wrong:

LGTV powered on, Pioneer AVR powered on, Westinghouse on thru DVI and HDMI out (forgot to mention it's Micro HDMI adapter to HDMI) from the GTX560 to the Pioneer AVR.

I went to personalize, then display and found the display that read my Pioneer AVR. Right clicked, and proceeded with the steps to install the inf file you attached. Rebooted.

Video shows up on the Westinghouse and then flickers for a second since it's also connected to my Pioneer AVR but no video on the LG.

Currently I have my displays as extended with my Westinghouse as the main. I would rather have it duplicate displays but didn't know if that would somehow mess things up. Another thing someone pointed out, would using HDMI 1.4 versus 1.3 make any difference since my GPU and Pioneer support 3D while my LGTV doesn't?

Does it also make a difference which "hdmi in" port I use on the AVR, even when I created the inf files on Moninfo? I couldn't imagine so but figured i'd ask.

Am I missing a step or something? Thanks again for your help, Tulli!!
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 04:34 AM 12-02-2011
No, install procedure looks ok to me. Have you already checked HDMI cables/connections? An yes, try switching to different HDMI ports on the AVR or TV.
ScrapMaker's Avatar ScrapMaker 06:46 PM 12-03-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by credditt View Post

Hi Tulli,

I've had a number of issues with the audio on my HTPC. I'd like to try an EDID override. The Monifo inf files for my receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021) and TV (Panasonic TC-P50GT25) are attached. I'd be very appreciative if you would merge them together for me. I'm not certain I understand the instructions correctly and don't want to create more problems.

Many thanks.

I have a Panny 50" plasma and the VSX-1121-K, and I cannot get my audio to keep playing after powering off the display. Is that the same problem you are having? Previously, I just had the HDMI from the same machine going directly to the plasma, and used optical audio. It wasn't until I started using HDMI audio and the Pioneer AVR that I started having this issue. Very frustrating...
ScrapMaker's Avatar ScrapMaker 07:42 PM 12-03-2011
Man, after deciphering exactly how to do this (or so I thought,) from about 15 pages in this thread, I still cannot get my music to stay on when I power off my plasma. Sometimes the music resumes after about 10 seconds, but when I turn the plasma back on, the program is always crashed... boxee goes black, XBMC flat out crashes... it's like the sound device is removed from the system the moment you power off the TV for some reason. I am not doing pass-thru HDMI.

Maybe I am missing something? Can someone look at this please? I'll be forever greatful if I can get this dang combo to work )

I took the first four lines of raw from the plasma for the "0" data, and the last four lines of raw from the AVR for the "1" data.

Raw data (PC -> Plasma)
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,A9,62,A0,72,64,04,85,26,11,01,03, 80,00,00,78,0A,DA,FF,A3,58,4A,A2,29,
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45,00,98,06,32,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00, 98,06,32,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,50,
41,4E,41,53,4F,4E,49,43,2D,54,56,0A,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,3D,0F, 44,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,9B,
02,03,18,71,48,90,05,04,03,02,07,06,01,23,09,07,01,66,03,0C, 00,10,00,80,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,
6E,28,55,00,98,06,32,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E, 96,00,98,06,32,00,00,18,8C,0A,D0,8A,
20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,B2,06,22,00,00,18,8C,0A,A0,14,51,F0, 16,00,26,7C,43,00,98,06,32,00,00,98,
8C,0A,A0,14,51,F0,16,00,26,7C,43,00,B2,06,22,00,00,98,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,9B

Raw data (PC -> Pioneer AVR, Plasma cable removed)
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,41,2F,00,00,01,01,01,01,00,14,01,03, 80,60,36,78,2A,D7,B3,AE,51,50,94,23,
0C,4A,47,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,
25,00,B8,18,32,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00, B8,18,32,00,00,18,00,00,00,FD,00,31,
3D,0F,45,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,56,53,58, 2D,31,31,32,31,0A,20,20,20,20,01,86,
02,03,42,72,59,85,04,03,0F,0E,07,06,14,13,12,1E,1D,16,15,0B, 0A,1A,19,23,24,25,26,10,1F,01,38,09,
7F,07,0F,7F,07,15,07,50,3E,1E,C0,4D,02,00,57,06,00,5F,7E,01, 67,7E,00,83,4F,00,00,66,03,0C,00,15,
00,80,01,1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80,B8,18,32,00,00,9E, 01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,
B8,18,32,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,B8,18, 32,00,00,1E,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,E4

Raw data (PC -> AVR -> Plasma)
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,41,2F,00,00,01,01,01,01,00,14,01,03, 80,00,00,78,0A,DA,FF,A3,58,4A,A2,29,
17,49,4B,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,98,06,32,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00, 98,06,32,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,
3D,0F,44,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,56,53,58, 2D,31,31,32,31,0A,20,20,20,20,01,88,
02,03,37,71,4E,90,05,04,03,02,07,06,01,0F,24,0E,23,0B,0A,38, 09,7F,07,0F,7F,07,15,07,50,3E,1E,C0,
4D,02,00,57,06,00,5F,7E,01,67,7E,00,83,4F,00,00,66,03,0C,00, 15,00,80,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,
28,55,00,98,06,32,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96, 00,98,06,32,00,00,18,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,
E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,B2,06,22,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,ED

 

ScrapMaker-EDIDOverride.txt 2.62890625k . file
Attached: ScrapMaker-EDIDOverride.txt (2.6 KB) 
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 04:23 AM 12-04-2011
Yes, that's how it "works", not an EDID issue, but a problem with switching of HDMI devices and hot-plug detection by the graphic driver. Your best solution is a Gefen HDMI Detective Plus that will keep the plasma TV HDMI connection alive.
Zoomer88's Avatar Zoomer88 04:01 PM 12-04-2011
Hey everyone! It looks like this thread is the only rich source of information on the htpc hdmi connections. It's great what you're doing here guys!

I've faced extremely weird problem and I hope somebody could help me.

For two years I had Sony DA2400ES receiver, Samsung LE40B65... lcd tv and a Radeon 5870. Everything worked almost flawlessly (except sometimes video signal was lost after switching/turning off-on the receiver but audio kept streaming).

Last week I did a little upgrade and switched to nvidia geforce 580gtx and asus p8z68-V motherboard and here it begins. When I connect the same receiver to the geforce HDMI output I get no lossless formats in the "encoded formats" list except that it still supports 8ch pcm (although in a bit weird way). Only DD, DD+ and DTS are there.

I've tried to create and use my own inf overrides with no avail. I've also tried to use one of the mods with "*" with same result. Tried to change Nvidia Audio drivers to different versions. Same sh... different day. By the way is it ok that this field in [registry-active] after applying override looks like that?
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Unknown - 0x00)
And there's also no info about audio formats.

There's another HDMI in my system - the one on the motherboard. That's an integrated Intel HD graphics. It works just like ATI HDMI out did. Everything is great and even the signal never gets lost. But using it is not an option - it has other problems with video and you can't get a good fps through that display in games.

There's another problem. I don't mind leaving out bitstreaming and sending already decoded audio to the receiver through 5.1 PCM. But I don't get it why (when I set 5.1 speaker configuration in Windows settings) the stream closes when there's silence and reopens every time the new sounds appear? The 5870's HDMI behaved the same way when it was set to 2.0 but when if I would change it to 5.1 the PCM stream will be continuous. The reason why I care about this is that when sound stream constantly opens and closes, the short sounds (like IM alerts, windows sounds etc) often couldn't be heard since the time the receiver switches from "nothing" to 5.1 PCM is enough to miss those sounds.

I realize that the last part of my post is a huge off-topic and I beg pardon for that but it looks like there is a lot of people with similar setups and maybe someone has a solution for this nagging problem.

And also I'm sorry for my English!

Here's mine moninfo real-time data:
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... SONY AVAMP
  Manufacturer............. Sony
  Plug and Play ID......... SNY4C01
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 10
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7,2 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,300 - Gy 0,600
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,060
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 26-81kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 24-75Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 230MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 5
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (16:9, 32:45)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  DVD-A   2-channel                      at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DVD-A   6-channel                      at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DVD-A   8-channel                      at 44/48/88/96 kHz
  DTS-HD  2-channel, 16-bit              at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DTS-HD  6-channel, 16-bit              at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DTS-HD  8-channel, 16-bit              at 44/48/88/96 kHz

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  LPCM    6-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  LPCM    8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  680k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  DTS     6-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
  DD+     8-channel                      at 44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 7.1
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ Yes
  Front center............. Yes
  Rear left/right.......... Yes
  Rear center.............. Yes
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... Yes
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 3.3.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz

CE video capability data
  CE scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
  IT scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
  PT scan behavior......... Not supported
  RGB quantization range... Not supported
  YCC quantization range... Not supported

CE colorimetry data
  xvYCC709 support......... Yes
  xvYCC601 support......... Yes
  sYCC601 support.......... No
  AdobeYCC601 support...... No
  AdobeRGB support......... No
  Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
  Date generated........... 05.12.2011
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0052
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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  B8,2D,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,BC,52,
  D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,F3
Registry-active data (with installed override):
Edit: Hmm. It looks like this is an override with mod used from this forum since native preferred resolution is 1920x1080i. The funny thing is that it ignores it and still defaults to 1080p! It looks like I am an idiot and doing something completely wrong
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... SONY AVAMP
  Windows description...... SONY AVAMP (EDID Override) SONY AVAMP
  Manufacturer............. Sony
  Plug and Play ID......... SNY0B01
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2007, ISO week 28
  Filter driver............ EDID Override
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7,2 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (Unknown - 0x00)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,300 - Gy 0,600
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,060
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 25-68kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 23-61Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA

Report information
  Date generated........... 05.12.2011
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Registry-Active
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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  0F,50,54,20,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,
  25,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
  3D,19,44,10,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,4F,4E,59,20,41,56,41,4D,50,0A,20,20,01,C7
And the inf file created in Monitor Asset Manager is attached.

And thousands thanks for your time!

Edit: Ah, and there's also the topic I've created on the nvidia forums with some screenshots: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=217443

 

monitor.zip 1.2578125k . file
Attached: monitor.zip (1.3 KB) 
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 05:22 PM 12-04-2011
I don't think it's an EDID issue, especially because you've already gone that route, but some issue between the intel and nvidia hdmi audio drivers. Have you tried disabling the intel on board HDMI, at least for troubleshooting (is it possible)?
ScrapMaker's Avatar ScrapMaker 11:14 PM 12-04-2011
So EDID really doesn't have anything to do with audio stopping/pausing after shutting of an HDMI display? I can't believe that something like this would be overlooked... it's just insane.
Zoomer88's Avatar Zoomer88 03:50 AM 12-05-2011
Thanks for your answer Tulli. No, this thought haven't crossed my mind. Yea, it's possible to disable Intel graphics. I disabled it, uninstalled Intel drivers completely along with Intel HDMI audio and did a reboot. Nothing changed
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 08:24 AM 12-05-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomer88 View Post
Thanks for your answer Tulli. No, this thought haven't crossed my mind. Yea, it's possible to disable Intel graphics. I disabled it, uninstalled Intel drivers completely along with Intel HDMI audio and did a reboot. Nothing changed
Ok, it would seem that the NVIDIA driver is only detecting the second audio block of the Sony EDID. Try the attached EDID with only one standard audio block.

 

Real-time (FIXED).zip 1.25k . file
Attached: Real-time (FIXED).zip (1.3 KB) 
Zoomer88's Avatar Zoomer88 11:07 AM 12-05-2011
Tried it and it didn't help. To be sure I tried to reinstall Nvidia Drivers completely again. No luck Come to think of it, it could be some kind of hardware limitation as only lossless formats are missing...
Zoomer88's Avatar Zoomer88 11:56 AM 12-06-2011
Hey guys. Got an answer from Nvidia support. To be honest I didn't expect it to be so straightforward and proper. Here is the extraction from it:

... am sorry for the inconvenience, unfortunately the Newer GeForce GTX 580, 570, 480, 470 does not support advanced codecs, like True-HD and DTS-HD or DTS-HD Master. With the newer card it's only Dolby Digital (AC3), DTS 5.1, Multi-channel (7.1) LPCM, Dolby Digital Plus (DD+), MPEG2/MPEG4 AAC.

Regarding your second query, about the sound stream interrupts let me inform you that it is a known bug with audio delay and we are currently investigating on the issue. Our engineers working on the problem and I hope to have this fix in a future update as soon as we can...
Sanjib,
NVIDIA Customer Care

The second issue is about 'silent stream bug'. And the absence of TrueHD and DTS-HD is a hardware (or maybe software, who knows?) limitation. Well, that's not great but at least can stop torturing my system haha.

Thank you for your help anyway Tulli!
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 03:48 PM 12-06-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomer88 View Post

Hey guys. Got an answer from Nvidia support. To be honest I didn't expect it to be so straightforward and proper. Here is the extraction from it:

... am sorry for the inconvenience, unfortunately the Newer GeForce GTX 580, 570, 480, 470 does not support advanced codecs, like True-HD and DTS-HD or DTS-HD Master. With the newer card it's only Dolby Digital (AC3), DTS 5.1, Multi-channel (7.1) LPCM, Dolby Digital Plus (DD+), MPEG2/MPEG4 AAC.

Regarding your second query, about the sound stream interrupts let me inform you that it is a known bug with audio delay and we are currently investigating on the issue. Our engineers working on the problem and I hope to have this fix in a future update as soon as we can...
Sanjib,
NVIDIA Customer Care

The second issue is about 'silent stream bug'. And the absence of TrueHD and DTS-HD is a hardware (or maybe software, who knows?) limitation. Well, that's not great but at least can stop torturing my system haha.

Thank you for your help anyway Tulli!

Ah, yes. I rechecked you first post and had missed just this part:

"Last week I did a little upgrade and switched to nvidia geforce 580gtx".
ftex's Avatar ftex 08:27 PM 12-11-2011
Hi all,
i'm trying enable surround through philips 40PFL3606D/78 to 5.1 system.

my setup:
radeon 4530 -> cable hdmi -> TV -> cable coaxial -> home theater 5.1

Using windows media center or media player classic, i can have 5.1, but windows 7 recognize just 2 SPEAKERS because the TV edid.

In another aplications like games, i can't have 5.1 sound because the TV EDID.

I'm uploaded the .inf cached by moninfo.

Someone can help-me?

(sorry my bad english)

 

tv.zip 1.193359375k . file
Attached: tv.zip (1.2 KB) 
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 02:50 AM 12-12-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by ftex View Post

Hi all,
i'm trying enable surround through philips 40PFL3606D/78 to 5.1 system.

my setup:
radeon 4530 -> cable hdmi -> TV -> cable coaxial -> home theater 5.1

Using windows media center or media player classic, i can have 5.1, but windows 7 recognize just 2 SPEAKERS because the TV edid.

In another aplications like games, i can't have 5.1 sound because the TV EDID.

I'm uploaded the .inf cached by moninfo.

Someone can help-me?

(sorry my bad english)

You can't passthrough 6-LPCM (uncompressed) audio over S/PDIF. That's the meaning of the 2 channels limitation in windows. So to get 5.1 the application must send AC3 or DTS (compressed) audio itself, or via some filter/decoder (e. g. AC3Filter).
ftex's Avatar ftex 04:15 AM 12-13-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

You can't passthrough 6-LPCM (uncompressed) audio over S/PDIF. That's the meaning of the 2 channels limitation in windows. So to get 5.1 the application must send AC3 or DTS (compressed) audio itself, or via some filter/decoder (e. g. AC3Filter).

Tanks Tulli,
So, that means:
-The "windows media center" and audio codec of "media player classic" send compressed audio with channels information.
-But "Windows" works with uncompressed audio.
In this case, i'm needing a hardware with coaxial or optical interface.
do you have some advice about what hardware choose? (usb or express card)
Thanks again
Tulli's Avatar Tulli 05:44 AM 12-13-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by ftex View Post

Tanks Tulli,
So, that means:
-The "windows media center" and audio codec of "media player classic" send compressed audio with channels information.
-But "Windows" works with uncompressed audio.
In this case, i'm needing a hardware with coaxial or optical interface.
do you have some advice about what hardware choose? (usb or express card)
Thanks again

Yes, S/PDIF has only enough bandwidth for 2 channels uncompressed or multi-channel compressed audio. One solution would be to get a DDL (Dolby Digital Live) motherboard and use onboard S/PDIF.

For multi-channel uncompressed audio HDMI is the best solution. If your Home Theater 5.1 accepts an HDMI connection any graphic card/adapter that can at least send multi-channel LPCM audio over HDMI will do.

Another solution of course is multichannel analog audio, if your home theater 5.1 has multichannel analog-in connections.
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