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Hi everyone.

After doing research and trying a whole bunch of different stuff, I've been led to this thread. It seems I need an EDID override to get 5.1 through HDMI from my laptop.

My setup is as follows:

Alienware M14x > (HDMI) > Sony KDL-NX46713 > (HDMI) > Sony BDV-E370

All TV audio comes through the 5.1 speakers - when the TV detects the audio system being switched on, TV speakers are automatically switched off and everything comes through the audio system. Recorders, PS3, Blu-Ray players all deliver 5.1 flawlessly through the current setup.

BUT, I can't get the laptop to output 5.1 in this setup. The HDMI is handled by the GT555M but for sound, the NVDIA control panel redirects to the default Windows Sound settings. No matter what I do, I can't select 5.1 for audio here - it recognises the TV as the playback device though.

What's even more annoying is that stereo audio plays through the audio system anyway!

Anyway, it looks like the GT555M is reading the EDID of the TV and therefore only giving the stereo audio (or at least, that's what I think?)

I connected up through HDMI to the TV (the audio system was on) and got this with MonInfo:

If it matters, options on both the TV and BDV are set to output sound through the audio system - TV speakers are completely switched off, not just muted or turned down.

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Monitor
  Model name............... SONY TV
  Manufacturer............. Sony
  Plug and Play ID......... SNYF801
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 1440 x 810 mm (65.0 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
  White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 14-70kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 48-62Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 0
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 2.0
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ No
  Front center............. No
  Rear left/right.......... No
  Rear center.............. No
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... No
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 3.0.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
  Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
  Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
  HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
  EDID screen size......... Correct aspect ratio, but approximate size
  3D formats supported..... Mandatory formats only
  Data payload............. 030C003000B82D2F88132030F008101810281048105810E81006162636

CE video capability data
  CE scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
  IT scan behavior......... Always underscanned
  PT scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
  RGB quantization range... Selectable (via AVI YQ)
  YCC quantization range... Not supported

Report information
  Date generated........... 16/05/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0052
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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I'm not quite sure how to get the info from the BDV though. There is a sole HDMI connection on the back which goes to the TV and then 4 HDMI slots on the TV.

Is it possible to get this working with 5.1? I have also read though, that even if I get 5.1 outputting, it will only work with films, not games?

Any info or suggestions you could provide would be really appreciated!

Thanks
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The EDID shows DD capability. Just set your video or audio application to send a 5.1 DD audio stream and it will work (so if you check the "supported formats" for the HDMI audio device DD should be listed ... is it not?).

For more info read the update on S/PDIF on 1st post from link in my sig. and from the last pages of this (and the other EDID) thread where this problem has been discussed (ad nauseam!)

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The EDID shows DD capability. Just set your video or audio application to send a 5.1 DD audio stream and it will work (so if you check the "supported formats" for the HDMI audio device DD should be listed ... is it not?).

For more info read the update on S/PDIF on 1st post from link in my sig. and from the last pages of this (and the other EDID) thread where this problem has been discussed (ad nauseam!)

Thanks for the quick reply, sorry for my ignorance. I'll check the supported formats - I assume this is in the Windows sound settings?

I did have a quick look through the last pages and the thread in your sig, but I thought S/PDIF was different from HDMI and that bandwidth limitation wasnt the issue. Unless its 2 that's causing the problem? The game is trying to pass through uncompressed 5.1 which isn't possible?

Again, sorry for not understanding that I had the same issue and thanks for the reply. I guess just reading all the different issues and potential fixes has got me confused.

I can't believe you've got to jump through so many hoops to try and get something as simple as 5.1 working...everything else is plug and play but this is just issue after issue. Ah well, I guess for getting 5.1 for games I'm out of luck

EDIT: I'm still really confused here. I did a bit more research which has led me to this page:

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Digital connectors prior to HDMI (I'm looking at you S/PDIF) don't carry surround PCM, only stereo PCM or compressed surround.

All my connections from the laptop to TV, TV to sound system are HDMI - so S/PDIF not being able to send uncompressed audio shouldn't matter?

And:

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The lights on the front of the surround sound system tell me that I'm only getting stereo. 5.1 surround for media files now works with more formats and fewer hacks (yay I guess, but I already had a workaround with the original MPC [not MPC-HC]). What's going on? Then it hits me.

The surround sound system is plugged into the TV via... S/PDIF. As I recently learned, for PCM, this means stereo only!

Again, my sound system is connected via HDMI to the TV. So, is an EDID needed that changes it to LPCM 6-channel instead of 2?

I might just be clutching at straws here.

EDIT 2: Receiver "doesn't support" LPCM 5.1/7.1 through the TV digital in - only from a Blu Ray disc or DVD. Crap
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current setup: Windows 7 HTPC-ATI 5450>hdmi>Harman Kardon AVR2600>hdmi>LG 60PV250 plasma tv

Latest ATI CCC 12.4 driver.

With this setup I'm having trouble with an error message: "Your audio hardware is not available, is not responding, or your speakers are not connected" I have to logoff from Windows 7 and then log back in to get Windows Media Center to play media.

Also if I turn off the LG tv, the audio quits and I get the same audio error message when I turn the tv back on.

I've run Moninfo connected directly to the tv and then connected to the HK receiver and attached the results. I tried the File->Merge extension bloc with INF in Moninfo and it either didn't work or more likely I did it incorrectly.

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current setup: Windows 7 HTPC-ATI 5450>hdmi>Harman Kardon AVR2600>hdmi>LG 60PV250 plasma tv

Latest ATI CCC 12.4 driver.

With this setup I'm having trouble with an error message: "Your audio hardware is not available, is not responding, or your speakers are not connected" I have to logoff from Windows 7 and then log back in to get Windows Media Center to play media.

Also if I turn off the LG tv, the audio quits and I get the same audio error message when I turn the tv back on.

I've run Moninfo connected directly to the tv and then connected to the HK receiver and attached the results. I tried the File->Merge extension bloc with INF in Moninfo and it either didn't work or more likely I did it incorrectly.

Thanks in advance for any help.

That's a driver problem. Try a different/older (HDMI audio) driver.

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Is there any other way to gather the EDID info other than moninfo? I have a fairly new model plasma LG 60PA6500 and whenever I run moninfo while connected to this plasma my system(s) bluescreen/restart. I have tried to run it connected with both my media PC and a laptop. Here is my setup:

Media PC with Nvidia GT520 -> HDMI
LG 60PA6500 -> Optical
Pioneer VSX-519V-K

I would just go HDMI from Media PC to Pioneer then to LG Plasma, but for whatever reason the LG does not get any signal from the Pioneer HDMI Out. So I determined after much trouble that the custom EDID was my only option to get the 5.1 audio through that LG Optical connection.
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Is there any other way to gather the EDID info other than moninfo? I have a fairly new model plasma LG 60PA6500 and whenever I run moninfo while connected to this plasma my system(s) bluescreen/restart. I have tried to run it connected with both my media PC and a laptop. Here is my setup:

Media PC with Nvidia GT520 -> HDMI
LG 60PA6500 -> Optical
Pioneer VSX-519V-K

I would just go HDMI from Media PC to Pioneer then to LG Plasma, but for whatever reason the LG does not get any signal from the Pioneer HDMI Out. So I determined after much trouble that the custom EDID was my only option to get the 5.1 audio through that LG Optical connection.

Try GetEDID:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post18165143

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I'm running into a real problem.
I recently put together a z77 mobo and 3570k, and installed win7-64 bit.
I have a Denon receiver, so of course I can't get my projector to display. Seems Denon and Intel can't be bothered to fix the problem.
So after checking, it looked like an EDID override would solve the problem. But I can't get it to work.

Some preliminaries.
I've tried 3 driver Intel driver versions. All behave the same.
If I plug in a monitor to my Denon 3310ci, then plug that into the hdmi port, disconnect my DVI, I can see the UEFI or boot select screen thru the receiver. But it will not display once I boot. If I bypass the receiver, both my projector and the monitor I've been connecting to test will display over hdmi (I have another dvi monitor which is normally connected to the dvi port)

NOTE: I edited here because I made a mistake. I removed the rest because it is only going to cause confusion. Maybe I've cause enough already

I have run moninfo, and can see the realtime entry for denon in the list. I save to monitor.inf (only entry in the directory where I save it). When I try to update the driver, following tulli's instructions

When I look at the "screen resolution" screen. There is only 1 display, which is my DVI connected Samsung. If I press detect, it tells me "Another display not detected". So from there, I can't go to advance settings. So even though MonInfo can see the display, and provide info, apparently Intel is incapable of getting their software even this far???

Any other ideas on what I can try?

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I'm running into a real problem.
I recently put together a z77 mobo and 3570k, and installed win7-64 bit.
I have a Denon receiver, so of course I can't get my projector to display. Seems Denon and Intel can't be bothered to fix the problem.
So after checking, it looked like an EDID override would solve the problem. But I can't get it to work.

Some preliminaries.
I've tried 3 driver Intel driver versions. All behave the same.
If I plug in a monitor to my Denon 3310ci, then plug that into the hdmi port, disconnect my DVI, I can see the UEFI or boot select screen thru the receiver. But it will not display once I boot. If I bypass the receiver, both my projector and the monitor I've been connecting to test will display over hdmi (I have another dvi monitor which is normally connected to the dvi port)
I have run moninfo, and can see the realtime entry for denon in the list. I save to monitor.inf (only entry in the directory where I save it). When I try to update the driver, following tulli's instructions I get


The download of moninfo says it is compatible with 64 bit. moninfo.inf looks like a text file. Is there something that needs to be changed here for 64 bit?

Just to see, I created a monitor.inf for my dvi monitor. That also does not load. Perhaps intel had disabled the ability to even upgrade like this?

Any other ideas on what I can try?

You missed this step in the installation of the EDID override:

"Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer [Select]"

On the other hand I still have no confirmation that EDID overrides work on IB. But anyway make sure that your EDID Override is a correct merge of the Projector EDID and the DENON audio block. If you need help to make the proper mod just post the real-time EDID of the projector and I'll do the mod.

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you read it before I could change it. I HAD missed selecting a monitor. I've been fighting with this for a couple of days and I'm tired.

I can force the EDID override onto the samsung, so that it comes up as a Denon but of course in that instance the denon was not connected. So, I don't know what to try next. Sounds like Intel will never bother to fix it on their end.

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Have people with audio detection issues tried just blocking pin 19 on the HDMI (hot plug detect)? That worked perfect for me. Windows was dropping the audio device to my receiver nearly every time I woke the computer from sleep. I was going to try an EDID override but blocking pin 19 was easier to try and I remember it fixing the 360 resetting every time the input switches.

You just take some tape and cover the pin like this http://postimage.org/image/2g8p5dwdg/

any tape should do, even scotch tape works
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Have people with audio detection issues tried just blocking pin 19 on the HDMI (hot plug detect)? That worked perfect for me. Windows was dropping the audio device to my receiver nearly every time I woke the computer from sleep. I was going to try an EDID override but blocking pin 19 was easier to try and I remember it fixing the 360 resetting every time the input switches.

You just take some tape and cover the pin like this http://postimage.org/image/2g8p5dwdg/

Ingenious fix!

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it works with DVI cables as well, you need to block pin 16, you can try tape or just yank it out with needle nose pliers.



pin 16 is in the same location on both single link and dual link DVI cables, right underneath the + or - shaped thing in the middle

I dont know if it actually fixes real EDID issues but it should prevent the computer from forgetting your EDID like what seems to happen after sleeping or turning off the HDMI device while connected (since it will think the device is always connected). I would assume that everything needs to be working properly on a fresh boot for it to work.
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I have to say, what a great and helpfull tread!

After building my new HTPC (based on I5-3750) and which I keep on always, I have a small buy annoying problem.

Sometimes (not always strange enough) when I switch back on my TV (Samsung ue55d8000) which then switches on my Onkyo TX-NR609 (in HDMI Through mode), my Mediacenter comes back on 1024x768 instead of 1080p50 (or 1080p60).

Can this be solved with an EDID override?
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After building my new HTPC (based on I5-3750) and which I keep on always, I have a small buy annoying problem.

Sometimes (not always strange enough) when I switch back on my TV (Samsung ue55d8000) which then switches on my Onkyo TX-NR609 (in HDMI Through mode), my Mediacenter comes back on 1024x768 instead of 1080p50 (or 1080p60).

Can this be solved with an EDID override?

No, unfortunately.

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No, unfortunately.

Thanks, but is this not related to EDID or HDMI handshake problem? Somehow (when the TV and Receiver are turned of and then back on) the HTPC starts rethinking it's resolution. Probably at the moment the TV/Receiver are switched on again.
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Thanks, but is this not related to EDID or HDMI handshake problem? Somehow (when the TV and Receiver are turned of and then back on) the HTPC starts rethinking it's resolution. Probably at the moment the TV/Receiver are switched on again.

It's a MC problem due to EDID/HDMI re-detection that can't be solved with an EDID override. A Gefen Detective - or maybe the trick suggested by idividebyzero above - is the only solution AFAIK.

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What I described stops resolution changes and any sort of monitor switch within Windows since it prevents Windows from knowing a monitor has been disconnected, the original thread I got the trick from was about stopping resolution changes in multi monitor setups, it just so happens to work with EDID issues as well.
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Does it matter where in the chain I do this? So WMC > Onkyo or ONKYO > TV? I guess WMC > Onkyo?
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Hi All,
I was wondering if you guys could help me find out what I'm doing wrong...I cant get HDMI audio out from my PC to my receiver(HTR-5063) when there is a projector hooked up to the receiver with HDMI-->DVI cable. I can't get any audio over HDMI at all, unless I unplug the projector.
I have run MonInfo to get the raw data top half via direct connection to PC(I chose the real-time data) and got this(after find/replace):
Code:
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4C,0x2D,0x3A,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x19,0x11,0x01,0x03,0x80,0x10,0x09,0x78,0x0A,0xAE,0xA5,0xA6,0x54,0x4C,0x99,0x26,0x14,0x50,0x54,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x02,0x3A,0x80,0x18,0x71,0x38,0x2D,0x40,0x58,0x2C,0x45,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x01,0x1D,0x00,0x72,0x51,0xD0,0x1E,0x20,0x6E,0x28,0x55,0x00,0xA0,0x5A,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1E,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x53,0x41,0x4D,0x53,0x55,0x4E,0x47,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x31,0x3D,0x0F,0x44,0x17,0x00,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x01,0xA6

Next step, I plug direct into the receiver, go to HDMI out only, refresh Moninfo and get the 2nd half of raw data from the receiver(again, real-time data) and get this:
Code:
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"1",0x01,0x02,0x03,0x45,0x74,0x5A,0x85,0x04,0x02,0x03,0x06,0x07,0x10,0x0E,0x0F,0x0A,0x0B,0x23,0x24,0x14,0x13,0x11,0x12,0x15,0x16,0x1F,0x1D,0x1E,0x19,0x1A,0x25,0x26,0x38,0x09,0x7F,0x07,0x0F,0x7F,0x07,0x15,0x07,0x50,0x3E,0x1F,0xC0,0x4D,0x02,0x00,0x57,0x06,0x00,0x67,0x54,0x00,0x5F,0x54,0x01,0x83,0x5F,0x00,0x00,0x68,0x03,0x0C,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0x80,0x21,0x00,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x8A,0x20,0xE0,0x2D,0x10,0x10,0x3E,0x96,0x00,0x13,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x8C,0x0A,0xD0,0x90,0x20,0x40,0x31,0x20,0x0C,0x40,0x55,0x00,0x13,0x8E,0x21,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x72

So I edit the file from page 1 and fill in as necessary, and I manually install the INF to the projector monitor in Device Manager/Monitors/ while its connected through the receiver, reinstall the latest realtek hdmi drivers for my Mobility Radeon HD 5870 and restart. I have done this many times, and I still cannot get my PC to send audio through the HDMI cable. If it helps, in Moninfo, theres another projector EDID file underneath the real-time one with "Registry" on it. Looking at that I notice the raw data is only 128 bit. Any ideas?

Any help at all would be appreciated, I've been at this issue for days.
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For EDID Overrides stick to the AMD HDMI audio driver instead. OTH a proper merge would be required of the proj. native EDID with the AVR audio block. Post them and I'll help you with the mod.

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Here is the raw data from the projector:
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... NP1000/2000
  Manufacturer............. NEC
  Plug and Play ID......... NEC797A
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2006, ISO week 12
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.660 - Ry 0.330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.365 - Gy 0.615
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.145 - By 0.055
  White point (default).... Wx 0.320 - Wy 0.365
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 31-91kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 50-86Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 120MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... CVT timings
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1024x768p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1024x768" 65.000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 800x600p at 85Hz 
    Modeline............... "800x600" 56.250 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  67Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  72Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  56Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
     832 x  624p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1152 x  870p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  85Hz - VESA STD
     800 x  600p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1024 x  768p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1152 x  864p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  960p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1400 x 1050p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Not supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Not supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Not supported
  Native formats........... 0
  Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 720x576p at 50Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x576" 27.000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 1280x720p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #4....... 1280x720p at 50Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

Report information
  Date generated........... 6/6/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
  00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,38,A3,7A,79,01,01,01,01,0C,10,01,03,80,00,00,78,0A,2A,02,A9,54,5D,9D,25,
  0E,52,5D,BF,EE,80,31,59,45,59,61,59,71,4F,81,40,81,80,90,40,01,01,64,19,00,40,41,00,26,30,18,88,
  36,00,00,00,00,00,00,18,F9,15,20,F8,30,58,1F,20,20,40,13,00,00,00,00,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,32,
  56,1F,5B,0C,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,4E,50,31,30,30,30,2F,32,30,30,30,0A,20,01,9E,
  02,03,0F,00,4A,02,03,11,12,84,05,13,14,00,00,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,00,00,00,00,00,
  18,8C,0A,D0,90,20,40,31,20,0C,40,55,00,00,00,00,00,00,18,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,00,
  00,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,00,00,00,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FF,00,31,2E,30,30,
  0A,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,FF,00,00,00,00,00,FF,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,B6

And from the receiver only (realtime) - (I have no display on the laptop, press F5 to refresh, switch back to laptop display and copy the data)
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... HTR-5063
  Manufacturer............. Yamaha
  Plug and Play ID......... YMH314A
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 0
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
  White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 15-91kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 23-121Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 4
  Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz (4:3)
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 720x576p at 50Hz (4:3)
    Modeline............... "720x576" 27.000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
    2880 x  480i at  60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9-20:9)
    2880 x  480i at  60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27-80:27)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (4:3, 8:15)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (16:9, 32:45)
    2880 x  576i at  50Hz - Console (4:3, 2:15-20:15)
    2880 x  576i at  50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45-160:45)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (4:3, 4:15)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  LPCM    8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  DTS     7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
  SACD    6-channel                      at 44 kHz
  DD+     8-channel                      at 44/48 kHz
  DVD-A   8-channel                      at 48/96/192 kHz
  DTS-HD  8-channel, 16-bit              at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 7.1
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ Yes
  Front center............. Yes
  Rear left/right.......... Yes
  Rear center.............. Yes
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... Yes
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 1.0.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... No
  Supports 30bpp........... No
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... No
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz
  Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
  Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
  HDMI video capabilities.. No
  Data payload............. 030C001000802100

Report information
  Date generated........... 6/6/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
  00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,65,A8,4A,31,00,00,00,00,00,14,01,03,80,00,00,78,0A,0D,C9,A0,57,47,98,27,
  12,48,4C,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,
  25,00,C4,8E,21,00,00,9E,01,1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80,C4,8E,21,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,48,
  54,52,2D,35,30,36,33,0A,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,17,79,0F,5B,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,44,
  02,03,45,74,5A,85,04,02,03,06,07,10,0E,0F,0A,0B,23,24,14,13,11,12,15,16,1F,1D,1E,19,1A,25,26,38,
  09,7F,07,0F,7F,07,15,07,50,3E,1F,C0,4D,02,00,57,06,00,67,54,00,5F,54,01,83,5F,00,00,68,03,0C,00,
  10,00,80,21,00,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,13,8E,21,00,00,18,8C,0A,D0,90,20,40,31,20,0C,
  40,55,00,13,8E,21,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,60

PC connected to the receiver, which connects to projector:
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... NP1000/2000
  Manufacturer............. NEC
  Plug and Play ID......... NEC797A
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2006, ISO week 12
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.660 - Ry 0.330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.365 - Gy 0.615
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.145 - By 0.055
  White point (default).... Wx 0.320 - Wy 0.365
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 31-91kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 50-86Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 120MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 720x480p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 720x576p at 50Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x576" 27.000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  67Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  72Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  56Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
     832 x  624p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1152 x  870p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  85Hz - VESA STD
     800 x  600p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1024 x  768p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1152 x  864p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  960p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1400 x 1050p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 4
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (4:3, 8:15)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (16:9, 32:45)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (4:3, 4:15)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  LPCM    8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  DTS     7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
  SACD    6-channel                      at 44 kHz
  DD+     8-channel                      at 44/48 kHz
  DVD-A   8-channel                      at 48/96/192 kHz
  DTS-HD  8-channel, 16-bit              at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 7.1
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ Yes
  Front center............. Yes
  Rear left/right.......... Yes
  Rear center.............. Yes
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... Yes
  Rear LFE................. No

Report information
  Date generated........... 6/6/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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Well, just realized that native resolution of the proj. is non-HDTV (1024x768). So if you want HD audio from your AVR you must use separate connections.

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Ok, good to know. Do you think I could overcome the issue with a small d.a. hdmi splitter? Or am I stuck having to use a different audio source? I have optical out on my laptop, so its not a huge deal.
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Yes, use separate connections to the proj. and AVR (with no HDMI-out).

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First off, I wanna apologize if this is posted in the wrong forum, but hopefully someone will be able to help me out. My laptop is connected to my home theatre system via HDMI, and my home theatre system is connected to my TV via HDMI as well. My home theatre system supports dts, and has worked perfectly with my xbox. Hwever, for some reason, windows is not willing to recognize my system as being capable of 5.1! It mentions that it's capable of DTS but that's the extent of it. The only available option is stereo. Interestingly, I have CinePlayer installed, and if I play a file encoded in 5.1, it'll automatically output the correct surround sound signal. This isn't happening in games or anything else though, which is frustrating to say the least. I have the nvidia GTX 670m installed, and from what I've read, it uses the EDID info from the connected system to detect the supported formats, with no option to override that info. I've used moninfo, and it states that my sound system is capable of 5.1, but it just won't let me pick that option. This is driving me nuts, so any help would be much appreciated.

Here's a pic of the supported formats according to the sound settings589

And here's the moninfo stuff:

Monitor
Model name............... LGHomeTheater
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... LGE0000
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 0
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 930 x 520 mm (41.9 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.633 - Ry 0.323
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.290 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.148 - By 0.048
White point (default).... Wx 0.280 - Wy 0.290
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 15-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 23-76Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Not supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
AC-3 6-channel, 448k max. bit rate at 44/48 kHz
DTS 6-channel, 752k max. bit rate at 44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 5.1
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ Yes
Front center............. Yes
Rear left/right.......... Yes
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 2.0.0.0
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz

Report information
Date generated........... 09/06/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0071
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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No EDID problem whatsoever. Just make sure that the application sends a multichannel compressed audio stream (e. g. DD or DTS) and it will work. You cannot send an uncompressed mutichannel audio stream (LPCM) over S/PDIF. Please refer to the the update on the subject in my sig., and to the countless posts on the matter in both EDID threads.

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Thanks for the reply Tulli, but I'm not sure what S/PDIF has to do with my setup. All I'm using is two HDMI cables: one from my laptop to my home theatre system, and another from the home theatre system to the TV. Besides, most games don't have the option to choose the exact type of audio to output. As an example, Team Fortress 2 has the option to pick between 2 channels, 5.1, and 7.1, but no option to pick Dolby Digital or anything else like it. Kingdoms of Amalur has absolutely no audio options beyond the regular volume settings. So most games depend on the audio configuration of Windows to output a compatible format (that's what I think at least, correct me if I'm wrong).
As a side note, I even tried connecting my home theatre system to the laptop without attaching the TV on the other end, but it was still the same problem. I wanna emphasize that I'm not trying to use the TV as an audio pass-through.
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Can your home theater send multichanel uncompressed audio (LPCM) over the HDMI connection? According to the EDID dump it can't:

AC-3 6-channel, 448k max. bit rate at 44/48 kHz
DTS 6-channel, 752k max. bit rate at 44/48 kHz

This is S/PDIF bandwidth. So you're only able to send compressed multichannel audio. The stereo detection in Windows only means this: that the HDMI audio device can send 2 channels LPCM and DD and DTS, which is correct for S/PDIF bandwidth. So like I said, set up your application to send a compressed audio stream and it will work. If it's a game audio must of course be encoded previously to compressed audio. There are cheap audio cards out there that do DD or DTS live encoding.

The easiest solution is of course an S/PDIF connection to your home theater.

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Hello new to forums i registered to get some help with edid or maybe its somethign else. Currently I have some what a complicated setup. I recently started renovating my house and decide to run all new cat cables with hdmi extenders in walls so that i can have a central place for all my home audio/video equipment. Everything works great with just the hdmi extenders no problems at all. I recentyl purcahsed a 4x4 true matrix switch so that i can finally finish off the project and get all the equipment ran in place.

I have everythign hooked up to the switch and from switch it outputs to the hdmi extenders. I have done many tests, the switch itself works fine and my xbox etc game consoels work but for some reason the pc doesnt like the switch or my receiver doenst liek the switch. My current setup that works without the switch is

PC > cat6 hdmi extender > receiver > hdmi extender > tv. That works flawlessly no problems auido video all work like its suppose to with no flickering etc.

but as soon as i try to use the switch things flaky with the switch usign the pc only my xbox works fine at least from the minimal tests of done, since i use my pc for most of all my audio / video stuff.

so bascailly it wold go like this
Pc > switch > hdmi extender > receiver > hdmi extender > tv

while thats hooked up if I dont use a EDID override I cant get anything passed 2.0 stereo andi have video signal drop outs at random can be constant or once blue moon. Once i use a EDID override I can get true audio working on my receiver. But still have the flaky video drops outs etc. And now recently even wiht the EDID override I made. The receiver out of no where will lose audio completely. And currently cant get audio to even come on.

So im not sure if its my bad EDID i did or what or if i jsut have too complicated of a system, I was warned by the company who i bought the switch from that I should of got the cat5/6 version of the switch instead of hdmi one that they dont recommend it in my setup but its double the price ofr a 4x4 switch and I think its really only my pc that is giving the issues. Mt receiver is 5 yrs old so im sure that isnt helping with the handshake or whatever issue im getting cause of the long distance + different things in the middle. But without the switch i have 0 issues so it seems thsi switch + my receiver dont liek each other cause when i do a moninfo of it, it wont even pick up my receiver when i dont do a edid override but without the switch in i can so its like signal is beign lost or info down the pipe line gettin lost.

So any help would be apperciated I have the 2 files for a edid override. Id like to try a proepr one made by you tulli if you could do that for me since I think it might be my bad edid override file but who knows at this point. thnx for you time

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