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post #1591 of 5041 Old 12-08-2009, 12:24 PM
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Friday Dec. 4th Zino Deal

3250e Processor $65
3gb RAM $39
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512MB $75
Blu-Ray Drive $100
Wireless b/g/n $45
250gb Hard Drive
Plum Purple $15
15month McAfee came with deal.

My total with tax and free shipping was $614.00 of which 40 was tax.

I maybe saved about $25 plus free shipping from regular price. It will be worth it to get rid of the Dell Inspiron Tower in my Entertainment center.

Ouch! I got basically the same thing, without Blu-Ray and the Plum Purple lid but with 320GB drive for around $350 including tax, plus another 20% cash back from Bing last week.

Unless you're desperate to get it, I'd be sorely tempted to wait for another really good deal from Dell. Just my 2 cents...
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It's not a deal at all, in comparison to what we all paid for during BF days... so maybe they'll have it again.

Don't count on it. Look at this from Dell's perspective - pretty much everybody ordered a Zino with a dual core CPU, 2 or 4 GB of RAM, and the small HDD. The reason this deal has a single core CPU, 3GB of RAM and a big HDD is because these are the parts Dell has left over. This isn't an optimal configuration, so Dell is cutting the price a bit to move the parts that nobody wants. Expect more of the same for the next month or two at least, until Dell's supply specialists realize which parts sell well and which don't.
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

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I was close to snapping it up before reading the blog, but was a little unsure. The blog settled me on it.

Benchmarking is not terribly important for me, real usage is more important. You tried most of the things I will use this for, and it worked.

Benchmarks can be overly technical, and not always informative to a regular user.

As to what else to include, well once we see "hacks" and "upgrades" when this thing hits the wild, I would love to see a more controlled release on tweaks. That is, you take the bare system, apply the hack/upgrade and see if you really get your bang for the buck!

Thanks again,
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

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I read the blog to get my fix on the new product news, but it didn't influence my final decision. I was set on this way before I even knew the product existed.

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So when do you guys think these will hit the outlet? I had an order in production and they wouldn't cancel it but I talked to a supervisor and they canceled it for me so I am sure mine is headed to the outlet probably.
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I read both blogs and they were very helpful. I bought my Zino on BF and would have done so regardless of reading your blogs, but I was able to make a much better decision on the configuration based on the real world data you provided. Would love to see more in the future.

Suggestions --I think you probably could have provided more of a background and performance overview on the CPUs, ie what sets them apart from Atom and CULV, especially since you have access to more information than third parties.

Things to cover in the future -- in this thread alone there have been a lot of quesitons on TV tuners, setting up W7MC or XBMC, and keyboards/remotes. Clearly this is the next thing you start thinking about after purchasing a new box.

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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

Your blog posts definitely were a big reason I pulled the trigger on this. I had been looking at upgrading my aging (pentium D930) system and it would have cost about the same to get the new motherboard, processor and ram that I wanted as I spent on the Zino.... which I kinda loaded up. I didn't buy it as an HTPC even though I know that's where your blogs were leaning. I bought it because my computer is now located in our living room and I wanted a little box that didn't make so much noise AND that would run multiple virtual machines (hence the 8GB of memory) and might be good for some light gaming (hence the HD4330 card).

Your blog definitely made a difference for me. Until now I've built every desktop in my house. This is my first "store bought" .... kinda sucks that it's seeing these delays, but ... I bought a hot item at a busy time. I'll get it eventually I suppose.
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

JJ, your posts on AVS were a major selling point. Although your AMD blog was helpful, I would have ignored it if not for your presence on AVS.

Without your AVS post I wouldn't have purchased the Zino (I bit on 11/17). Other then the information you provided there was very little to base the purchase on. Your AMD blog was icing on the cake.

I'm much more inclined to buy from companies with good customer service and your communications here at AVS is a substantial reason as to why I purchased the Zino HD. I give you and AMD credit for this. Now if I knew Dell's customer service was so bad I might have been a little more hesitant.

I would have liked more technical detail about the 780G chipset, Athlon Neo, and the HD4330 in you blog, or at least links to such information.

Thanks again.
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Is there any reason I couldn't buy a Zino with the N-wireless and then remove the Mini PCIe card and install it in my Dell Studio 15 laptop?

Is it a compatible part as far as anyone can tell?
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I read them both after reading your posts here at AVS. The first one put me in the maybe camp and the second blog got me to sell my ps3 and order one
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

Before reading your blog /this thread, I am looking to buy Macmini.

I changed my decision to Dell Zino after reading your blog.
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

I would not have purchased the Zino had you not run it through its paces. I would have bought an Intel Atom + NVIDIA Ion HTPC setup. (So score two for AMD.)

I found this thread before I found your blogs. The blog basically rehashed stuff you posted here. That's okay, though, because not everyone has the patience to read a 55+ page thread.

I would recommend that if you do product intros in the future:
1. Keep posting stuff here or in other forums relating to the product you test.
2. Update the blog daily.
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I would not have purchased the Zino had you not run it through its paces. I would have bought an Intel Atom + NVIDIA Ion HTPC setup. (So score two for AMD.)

I found this thread before I found your blogs. The blog basically rehashed stuff you posted here. That's okay, though, because not everyone has the patience to read a 55+ page thread.

I would recommend that if you do product intros in the future:
1. Keep posting stuff here or in other forums relating to the product you test.
2. Update the blog daily.

Daily updates are tough. I need time to figure out what I want to cover in the next blog, do the testing/reseach to make sure I have the right data points to cover, etc.

After I write the draft, it goes through our marketing dept. for clean up (word choice, etc.) and to ensure I am using the proper branding (full product names, etc.). Then it goes through legal to make sure I am not violating any laws, making sure I got all the registered trademarks noted, not making any wild claims, etc.

The whole process can take a week or longer depending on how full schedules are for folks.

On top of all that, blogs are a very small part of my overall duties so they are only supposed to get about 10% of my time. While I do spend more time on them than I am supposed to, it is fun to help prove out some of these concepts and share the results.

I am glad is is bringing some value to you guys.

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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?

Me, certainly. I'm pc-retarded (mac-bred), and, while I consider myself decently tech-savvy, I'm no where near as knowledgeable as the bulk of posters here. My current solution (dvd player with a usb thumbdrive) isn't cutting it I was deciding between several options (wd-live, xbox360, old xbox with xbmc, the forthcoming boxee box, or a htpc). My reqs: I needed wifi, wanted to be able to stream a variety of media (hulu, mlb.tv, netflix etc), watch divx and the occasional mkv, needed robust subtitle support. My only options, it turned out, were the boxee box or a htpc. An admin on the boxee blog suggested Acer Revo or Dell Zino as capable cheap htpcs. Reviews of the Revo were mediocre and I wasn't sure it would be capable of what I wanted.

I was initially skeptical of your blog posts because I wasn't sure what how unbiased an AMD rep would be, but after reading a lot of your posts here, I have to say that your enthusiasm helped push me into getting the zino without too much worry (3250e with 3300). With the announcement of the dxva support in the boxee beta, I gotta say I'm pretty psyched.
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Just curious...

How many read either of my blogs on the Zino HD and did it influence your decision to buy the Zino HD?

In other words, would you have bought the Zino HD regardless of the blogs?

I am just wondering if there was value to you in the blogs other than just data points.

On a related note, would you like to see more of these types of product oriented blogs in the future?

What are things you would like to see covered?


I bought the Zino because of the blogs and this thread. I had been keeping my eye on the Zino leading up to Black Friday and pricing HTPC systems in general. The information -- both objective and subjective -- provided in Java Jack's blogs gave me the knowledge of which components to select for my build and this thread gave me useful info on Bing Cash Back and discounted, pre-configured Dell catalog codes.
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Try this evalue code from a few pages back, it's still working:

Should save you like $100

Thanks for the evalue code. This looks very good for $349 (before tax) + free shipping:

Inspiron Zino HD
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
AMD Dual Core Athlon X2 3250e (1MB L2, 1.5GHz)
3GB DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
No Monitor
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
320GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Piano Black
Dell USB Optical Mouse
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell 1397 802.11 b/g Wireless Card

Sub total:$349.00
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Thanks for the evalue code. This looks very good for $349 (before tax) + free shipping:

Inspiron Zino HD
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
AMD Dual Core Athlon X2 3250e (1MB L2, 1.5GHz)
3GB DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
No Monitor
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
320GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Piano Black
Dell USB Optical Mouse
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell 1397 802.11 b/g Wireless Card

Sub total:$349.00

Damn, that's a great deal with Bing cashback. That's exactly what I paid but I only got 2GB and the standard gpu, though I did upgrade to a b/g/n card.
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Ok... I redid the order with the link to the good deal and updated a few things below marked with astericks.

Inspiron Zino HD
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
AMD Dual Core Athlon™ Neo X2 6850e (1MB L2, 1.8GHz) ****
4GB DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2 DIMM ****
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
No Monitor
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
320GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Plum Purple ****
Dell USB Optical Mouse
Blu-ray Disc (BD-ROM, DVD/CD Burner) and DVD+/-RW ****
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell 1520 802.11 b/g/n wireless card ****

It came to $603 w/free shipping. It saved me $11 and I got a bigger hard drive the bigger processor and an extra 1GB of memory. Not that I needed the bigger hard drive, but you can't reduce it in that link. So basically I got another GB or memory and the better processor for $11 bucks less. Thanks again for the link.

I figured heck.... I am already spending the money so to speak..... might as well get all the goodies I can for the same price or lower.
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JJ, the blog is pretty darn useful way to capture what you've tested in a clear and concise manner, while this thread is 54 pages (and counting) of useful and not so useful info (I could use less "where is my Zino" posts...). You've used the feedback from this thread to provide one update to the Blog, and I'd expect others down the road. So, while the blog isn't real-time, it is a great starting point and I use it as a reference for others.

Where I keep all of my other posts:
Silent PC Review
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I know I did thank you Fuses for the link to the deal, but it really helped me a lot. I did not mention here though, that my original order was suppose to be the 6850e and wasn't. I read Jay's blog from AMD that there was not a big difference between the 3250e and 6850e except that the 6850e was a bit more responsive in MCE. So I figured I would save the extra money and just take it figuring the HD 4330 Video card would still have it working fine.

I am very happy now though that I have exactly what I want coming. It was a little bit of an ordeal to cancel the other order, but it is canceled and I think Dell Customer Support is just awesome at times for the help in getting you what you want. Hats off to Dell for all there hard work as I know they are really busy right now.

JJ... this forum is really good and giving tons of good information. Do you have a link to a concise blog of all the goodies on setting up and configuring the Zino HD to get the most out of it.
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For those looking for the Logitech diNovo Mini keyboard for their (hopefully arriving soon) Zinos, Dell has them on for $90 right now:

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Dell Small Business has the Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard for $89.99 Free Shipping after 25% off Coupon Code: 7XXBLBDQN2L6T3 (Exp 12/10). Tax in most.

After the jump, search for item #: A1473124

You can try this direct link and see if it works for you: http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?...at=snp&x=0&y=0

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Coupon isn't working for me
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Dell Home has the Dell Zino HD AMD Athlon 2650e Dual-Core Mini Desktop Computer / Home Theater PC Hybrid for $349.00 Free Shipping. Tax in most.

AMD Athlon 2650e @ 1.6GHz; 4GB RAM; 500GB HDD; HDMI; DVD burner; Windows 7 Home Premium; ATI Radeon HD3200


http://www.techbargains.com/jump.cfm...11&arg=dddouz2

The original $349 Dell deal is still available: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...16&lid=1003783.

It features an AMD Athlon X2 3250e 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 3GB RAM, 320GB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive, DVD burner, ATI Radeon HD 4330 512MB video, 802.11g wireless, memory card reader, two eSATA ports, four USB 2.0 ports, HDMI output, Gigabit Ethernet, and Windows 7 Home Premium. Deal ends January 16.
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I am glad is is bringing some value to you guys.

I know dailies are tough. That's why I appreciate you using us as a sounding board.
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So more people have it now? Have a 4330? I was reading in the delivery thread that the fan is actually quite loud? I don't know if this is something to be concerned about since I can look into replacing the fan or undervolting it or something
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I had already decided to buy the Zino, but stumbled upon your blog while doing research on it. The information you provided just confirmed that I was making a good decision for my needs.
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Here are some pictures of my 6850e w/ integrated graphics and no wifi. Looks like there's a 50x50x20mm fan in there. Mine's much louder than I'd like, though I have no reason to believe it's broken as small fans like this are usually hard to silence.

This box is very easy to take apart. Something like a half dozen screws takes you down to the motherboard.

Back panel
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7...1208201021.jpg

Board top (heatsink/cpu)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/732...1208201002.jpg

Made in Taiwan
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2...1208200928.jpg

50x50x20mm fan
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5...1208200858.jpg

HDD & bracket
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6...1208200647.jpg

DVD-RW
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1...1208200619.jpg

Open case with drives removed
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/822...1208200536.jpg

Traces where the MXM slot would be (?):
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3...1208200507.jpg

SODIMMs:
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So more people have it now? Have a 4330? I was reading in the delivery thread that the fan is actually quite loud? I don't know if this is something to be concerned about since I can look into replacing the fan or undervolting it or something

So I took everything out and turned it on with the fan outside of the case. It's actually pretty good. Definitely not silent, but much better. It appears that the fan's vibration causes far more noise when installed than the motor itself. Dell put a small layer of dampening foam on the bottom where it touches the motherboard, but when it's affixed to the sheet metal of the case, it still resonates quite a bit.

I think that if the vibration can be cut down, it'll be far more tolerable. I'll fiddle around and see what I can manage.
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