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Ditto - Thanks Scott.

I love this thread guys, great work.
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Anyone know if Red Dawn or Django have any forced subs?

Red Dawn 2012 has a few hardcoded subtitles for Chinese language. Thus, there is not an english subtitle file for foreign language parts.
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Anyone have more info on Black Hawk Down? The spreadsheet says they are burned in but I don't have any in my rip.

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Anyone have more info on Black Hawk Down? The spreadsheet says they are burned in but I don't have any in my rip.

Mine is burned in but there are several different versions out there. I think mine is the Nordic version...but don't remember.
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Anyone know anywhere I can grab the Alien speaking part for the orginal stargate blu-ray. They didn't seperate the english track from the alien and there is no forced.

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another thing anyone know how to find the sub track number in makemkv. in the googledocs it tells me the track but in MakeMkv it doesn't show the track #

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Anyone know anywhere I can grab the Alien speaking part for the orginal stargate blu-ray. They didn't seperate the english track from the alien and there is no forced.

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Did you try here: http://subscene.com/subtitles/stargate

As far as I remember, there were no forced subs on that disk. It was all or none. Some of us created custom subs from the full subs.
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Anyone know anywhere I can grab the Alien speaking part for the orginal stargate blu-ray. They didn't seperate the english track from the alien and there is no forced.
The 15th Anniverary Blu-Ray has hardcoded subtitles. Not every piece of alien speech has a corresponding hardcoded subtitle, though.

It's really cheap (less than $9), and is worth it as an upgrade to the older "Extended Cut" Blu-Ray (which is what I assume you have). The video and audio quality are much better, and there are all the extras ever issued on any previous release.
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Did you try here: http://subscene.com/subtitles/stargate

As far as I remember, there were no forced subs on that disk. It was all or none. Some of us created custom subs from the full subs.


How did you go about doing this.

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How did you go about doing this.

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Creating customs subs is not that hard. Find the actual subs you need (from either the PGS subs already on the disk or the ones on that link) and their timecodes, create an .srt text file, if you want to keep it as SRT then you are done. If you want them as PGS then you will need to convert them to PGS using EasySUP. You can also reposition the subs using BDSup2Sub.

If I remember correctly, there are not that many alien subs in the original...should take you about an hour or two.
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Anyone know anywhere I can grab the Alien speaking part for the orginal stargate blu-ray. They didn't seperate the english track from the alien and there is no forced.

I have that disc and the alien subs are in a separate track which needs to be forced on.
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Did you try here: http://subscene.com/subtitles/stargate

As far as I remember, there were no forced subs on that disk. It was all or none. Some of us created custom subs from the full subs.


How did you go about doing this.

Thanks

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How did you go about doing this.

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Creating customs subs is not that hard. Find the actual subs you need (from either the PGS subs already on the disk or the ones on that link) and their timecodes, create an .srt text file, if you want to keep it as SRT then you are done. If you want them as PGS then you will need to convert them to PGS using EasySUP. You can also reposition the subs using BDSup2Sub.

If I remember correctly, there are not that many alien subs in the original...should take you about an hour or two.

You can use mkvMerge to mux the subs into the mkv.

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I have that disc and the alien subs are in a separate track which needs to be forced on.

I think the very first edition Blu-ray was authored incorrectly and they put the alien/foreign subs only in the full subs...or none at all. Either way, it was a bad disk.
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I think the very first edition Blu-ray was authored incorrectly and they put the alien/foreign subs only in the full subs...or none at all. Either way, it was a bad disk.

So even playing the original disc in a BR player, the forced subs weren't right?
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I think the very first edition Blu-ray was authored incorrectly and they put the alien/foreign subs only in the full subs...or none at all. Either way, it was a bad disk.

So even playing the original disc in a BR player, the forced subs weren't right?

Yes. So head on over to subscene and grab the one you need then mux it back into your mkv.

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So even playing the original disc in a BR player, the forced subs weren't right?

I had to go research this again but it seems that the first edition from Lionsgate (circa mid-2006) had missing subs for the aliens and the natives. Lionsgate re-issued the disk and corrected the subs but from I was reading, they were very low quality. Basically, there were no subs to begin with so there was nothing you could do with the original disk other than finding external ones and synching them.
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Thanks guys was able to get them.

One question I am ripping my season 2 of 24 (DVD)and see that in VLC it is playing subtitle Track # 9.

Is there a way to See the track # in MAKEMKV?


or is there another way to find out.

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Ditto - Thanks Scott.

I love this thread guys, great work.

+1.

Thanks especially for the ClownBD wiki entry, Scott. I've been struggling to get The Avengers rip just how I wanted it, but thanks to you I've got it.
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+1.

Thanks especially for the ClownBD wiki entry, Scott. I've been struggling to get The Avengers rip just how I wanted it, but thanks to you I've got it.

Curious how you wanted it? Avengers was one of the tricker ones for me to get how I wanted it. It's mentioned in the "Extremely anal" section but I didn't go into details there.
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Curious how you wanted it? Avengers was one of the tricker ones for me to get how I wanted it. It's mentioned in the "Extremely anal" section but I didn't go into details there.

Nothing fancy. I just wanted it to play the Russian part when I started the movie in J. River without having to manually activate the "separate" sub track. Perhaps I should have said, "Gotten it to work" instead of "how I wanted it."

One of the good things about J. River playback is that it will remember your playback selections so it would always play back the correct subtitle track (12, in this case) once you've selected it. The problem with this is I have a 3 client setup, so you'd have to do that on every machine. And in the event of a windows re-install, complete wipe of the program, library re-load, etc. you'd be back with no subs. And then if my wife wanted to watch it from her office/kids playroom I get the dreaded, "Honey, how do I turn on subtitles in J. River again???"

So you see you've saved me some grief.
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Very useful thread. Thank you.
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Hi all,

Has anyone had luck with the Spanish speaking parts that start at 1:06:08 in Broken City? Using eac3to I only see one english subtitle track, and using both SupRip and BDSup2Sub511 I don't get any forced subtitles. I know they exist, in the complete subtitles you can see [Billy Speaks in Spanish] then the subtitle, but it's as if I either get the entire subtitles or nothing.

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Hi there , I'm not really that great with technology but I downloaded a movie . Finally got a copy with subtitles on to my USB . The subtitles work fine on my laptop but they don't show up on my Panasonic tv ? Any advice ? Is there something I need to change on my tv ? I know you can link your laptop to the tv but I would prefer just to use the USB ?? Thanks for any advice
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You "ripped" a movie right?

Now that that is out of the way, what is the container of the movie (mkv, mp4)? How is the laptop connected to the TV?

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The US blu-rays of Live Free or Die Hard and Dead Man Down have forced subtitles. I don't remember the track numbers.
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I can't tell from the spreadsheet if the "new" Star Trek movie has forced subs. It's been a while since I've watched it and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have them, but there is no date on the spreadsheet to verify. Anyone know off hand if the Star Trek made in 2009 has subs?
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I can't tell from the spreadsheet if the "new" Star Trek movie has forced subs. It's been a while since I've watched it and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have them, but there is no date on the spreadsheet to verify. Anyone know off hand if the Star Trek made in 2009 has subs?

No forced subs for that movie

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I am researching subtitles and ripping, and that has lead me here. Post #19 of this thread, a member posted "That's why I always rip all English subs then run them through BDSupToSub to preserve only the forced. Works like a charm." Is that still good advice? Or do I need to research each title I rip (spreadsheet, Subscene, etc) and select accordingly? Tools are AnyDVD HD and Clown BD (the whole enchilada).

Also, I just discovered Scott's "Forced subtitles with ClownBD" wiki and have that yet to wade through ...

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I am researching subtitles and ripping, and that has lead me here. Post #19 of this thread, a member posted "That's why I always rip all English subs then run them through BDSupToSub to preserve only the forced. Works like a charm." Is that still good advice? Or do I need to research each title I rip (spreadsheet, Subscene, etc) and select accordingly? Tools are AnyDVD HD and Clown BD (the whole enchilada).

Also, I just discovered Scott's "Forced subtitles with ClownBD" wiki and have that yet to wade through ...

The only 100% reliable way I've found is to rip all English subs and look at each of them with BDSup2Sub. I now do this for every rip. It's a minor PITA but it's the only way to be sure about what needs to be ripped.

I look for three things:

1. Are there any subs flagged as forced? Those will almost surely need to be forced on. (Exception: some Star Wars discs with forced subs on the commentary tracks.)

2. Are there any whole sub tracks that might need to be forced? Applies to foreign language movies, mostly.

3. Are all subs within the picture area? Important for CIH setups.
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