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post #211 of 1531 Old 11-16-2010, 12:20 AM
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I can confirm this also, just set mine up, HDMI to Samsung PS50C6900 and used an old DVI>HDMI cable to connect to the Pioneer VSX-AX4ASi, using 2 ports on a GTX460....full auto-3d switching and full bitrate audio.
In looking at the link below I thought that NVIDIA wasn't officially supporting many Samsung 3D TV's because the Panasonic TC-P58VT25 is listed but the Samsung PN58C8000 isn't.

However this isn't correct. As renethx point out below, this list is for hardware components that support the proprietary "NVIDIA 3D Vision" not 3D in general. Apologies!

http://www.nvidia.com//object/3dtv-p...nts.html#3dtvs
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I meant true stereoscopic BDs, not anaglyph files.

And I'll reiterate. If you have an mkv file that is side-by-side, top-bottom encoded, or if you have two separate mkv files for each eye, then Stereoscopic Player can play it in true stereoscopic formats if you have Haali splitter and ffdshow installed.

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Did you notice that NVIDIA isn't officially supporting many Samsung 3D TV's? Notice that the newly released CNET editor's choice Panasonic TC-P58VT25 is listed but the also newly released CNET runner up choice Samsung PN58C8000 isn't listed!

[nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-requirements.html#3dtvs

The list is hardware components that support "NVIDIA 3D Vision" (NVIDIA's proprietary IR emitter and glasses). GeForce 4xx supports every display device supporting HDMI 1.4a 3D.

The op should clarify this important point but it even obscures it...
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My setup:

projector: Optoma GT720

HTPC:
- Win 7 64bit
- TMT3 with 3D-plugin
- ATI 5570 (Asus 5570 fanless), using special driver (check the ATI 120hz thread) and registry hack
- 5570 DVI to Optoma HDMI input for video in 1280x720 120hz
- 5570 HDMI to Pioneer 23TXH receiver for full HD audio bitstream (DTS-MA)

3D Avatar blu-ray sounds and looks awesome!!!

regards,

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Optoma BG-ZD101 DLP Link 3D Glasses
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The list is hardware components that support "NVIDIA 3D Vision" (NVIDIA's proprietary IR emitter and glasses). GeForce 4xx supports every display device supporting HDMI 1.4a 3D.

The op should clarify this important point but it even obscures it...

Fixed.


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Guys,

Acer H5360+Denon 1910+nVidia 3D Vision is working too:

HTPC (430) HDMI out > AVR HDMI in
AVR HDMI out > PJ HDMI in.

3D is working + DTSHD-MA bitstreaming with:

PDVD10,
WinDVD10,
TMT5.

Good news, isn't it?


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Hi guys,

I had opportunity to test this 3D stuff since i was on a vacation.

(but i really confused )

I'm happy with my HTPC+Acer H5360+nVidia 3D vision but i gave it a go with PS3+Acer today.

I updated my son's flat PS3 to 3.5 firmware and connected to my PJ.
(I know it's told i need an adapter like Optoma.)

PJ shows: (sorry i didn't use a screen; the background is just wallpaper.)




And 3D mode accepted by PJ: (i set 3D mode to DLP.)




And when i click on 3D option i got this popup:



OK i understand Sony wants a 3D TV but what player does it need?


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The PJ (with either 3D Vision Kit or DLP glasses) accepts only 120Hz Alternate-frame sequencing 3D format and GT 430+PDVD10/WinDVD10/TMT5 supports this format. On the other hand, PS3 (it's SONY) supports only HDMI 1.4a primary 3D formats where Alternate-frame sequencing is not included. I think "Player" = PS3 (strange enough ; if you use a HDMI 1.4a 3D display, you won't see this message anyway)
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Hi,

Why is that when I play 3D Bluray rips (avatar,how to train your dragon, alice in wonderland and cloudy with the chance of meatsballs) my HTPC downscales mo to 720p?

TV -> Samsung Series 8 46" 3DTV
GPU -> 5970
CPU -> i7 950

But on regulard movies 720p/1080p it plays normally, but when I play 3D rips it downscales the resolution automatically.
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The PJ (with either 3D Vision Kit or DLP glasses) accepts only 120Hz Alternate-frame sequencing 3D format and GT 430+PDVD10/WinDVD10/TMT5 supports this format. On the other hand, PS3 (it's SONY) supports only HDMI 1.4a primary 3D formats where Alternate-frame sequencing is not included. I think "Player" = PS3 (strange enough ; if you use a HDMI 1.4a 3D display, you won't see this message anyway)
Rene,

Are you looking for another weird thing?

Here you are:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post19524328

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Sooee...
PLease help me understand if I got this...

Get a GT 430
Get 3DTV Play

Connect GT 430 HDMI to my 3D Plasma( for the 1.4a connection)
Connect GT 430 DVI to Onkyo hdmi 1.3 AVR (for HD Audio Bit streaming)

Use Arcsoft TMT5 in conjunction with 3DTV Play software, to watch my 3D blus ?

Correct or not

TIA
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guys i am getting ready to build a new HTPC and need your opinions. Can u tell me what components and software to buy? I am not a gamer, but would like to get a projector (open to suggestions) and would like to watch 3D movies, record and watch OTA TV shows (edit out commercials), and watch blue rays discs. I do some photography editing as well. I am starting a fresh ground up build. Besides a projector I will be using a Panisonic 54" S1 Plasma TV.

THANKS for all your suggestions in advance.
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Awesome deal on the Acer H5360 3d 720P Projecter - $479 shipped!

Details here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1292016
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Thanks for the link, just bought one. I also just purchased Windvd10 and I have an ATI 5000 series card, what else do I need to complete this setup (DLP-Link glasses)?

Thanks.
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Thanks for the link, just bought one. I also just purchased Windvd10 and I have an ATI 5000 series card, what else do I need to complete this setup (DLP-Link glasses)?

Thanks.

I am not sure if the ATI cards will work for this - someone else will have to comment.

What I have is a newly purchased GT 430 ($65 @ Newegg) for 3d vision and for bitstreaming all the new 3D Bluray Iso files I have gotten. Of course the 3dvision Nvidia kit (~$175 Newegg) is also required - well at least the dongle to enable 3dVision....you could use DLP-link glasses. Also I have been using the Cyberlink PowerDVD software to play them. Slysoft makes a nice free iso mounting tool "Virtual Clone Drive" that works great with ISO's.

As always, Google is your friend in this undertaking.

Good luck!
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Is the GT 430 card the only card recomended for a HTPC with 3D capability currently?


Any recomendations on a MOBO and processor to complete the package?

I am not a gamer, just using it for media purposes.
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Sooee...
PLease help me understand if I got this...

Get a GT 430
Get 3DTV Play

Connect GT 430 HDMI to my 3D Plasma( for the 1.4a connection)
Connect GT 430 DVI to Onkyo hdmi 1.3 AVR (for HD Audio Bit streaming)

Use Arcsoft TMT5 in conjunction with 3DTV Play software, to watch my 3D blus ?

Correct or not

TIA

Get a 460/450/430.
Get (at least two pairs) nVidia 3Vision kit-glasses...

If you have an AVR 1.4a with a 1.4a 3D TV:
Connect:
GPU's HDMI out > AVR's 1.4 input > AVR's 1.4 output > TV's HDMI input.


If you want to use your 1.3 AVR with a 1.4a 3D TV:
Connect:
GPU HDMI out > TV HDMI in -for video
GPU DVI out > AVR HDMI in -for audio

If you want to use your 1.3 AVR with a 3D ready HDMI 1.3 PJ or monitor:
Connect (1st way):
GPU DVI out > PJ HDMI in -for video
GPU HDMI out > AVR HDMI in -for audio

or if your AVR doesn't have any EDID issues with your PJ or monitor:
Connect (2nd way):
GPU HDMI out > AVR HDMI in > AVR HDMI out > PJ HDMI in.

And for the time being (my opinion) PDVD 10 Ultra is the best player for 3D BDs even TMT5 and WinDVD 10 works with 3D.

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Is the GT 430 card the only card recomended for a HTPC with 3D capability currently?


Any recomendations on a MOBO and processor to complete the package?

I am not a gamer, just using it for media purposes.

You may use 450 as well. (40 bucks difference between 450-430.)

My config: Clarkdale H55 + i3 540 +430/460...

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This thread has been great getting my head around 3D. Thanks to all.

Does the 450 have ANY advantage over the 430 for Blu-ray only viewing??

I'm thinking of this model -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130579

I see the Nvidia glasses are sold out at Newegg. They don't even say they will be back in stock? Strange. Are they being updated??

I've ordered the Acer H5360, so what other glasses are my option other than the NVidia's?

Thanks
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It appears that DLP-link glasses will work with an ATI card and the latest Catalyst drivers, still trying to find out the exact details on this.
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DLP-Link glases work with any 3D capable DLP display. The 3D DLP display does not care how and where the 3D signal content is coming from as long as it is in either frame sequential 720p format or 1080p Checkerboard 3D format.
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I read a review on the Nvidia 430 and everyone was putting it down (gamers I think), so I read about ATI 5570 and everybody raves about it on Newegg. Then I read the ATI thread here and the latest drivers are buggy with TMT, so I still don't know what card to order. Very frustrating to say the least but I am leaning to the ATI 5570.

Can the NVidia glasses be used with ATI cards?
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Get a 460/450/430.
Get (at least two pairs) nVidia 3Vision kit-glasses...

If you have an AVR 1.4a with a 1.4a 3D TV:
Connect:
GPU's HDMI out > AVR's 1.4 input > AVR's 1.4 output > TV's HDMI input.


If you want to use your 1.3 AVR with a 1.4a 3D TV:
Connect:
GPU HDMI out > TV HDMI in -for video
GPU DVI out > AVR HDMI in -for audio

If you want to use your 1.3 AVR with a 3D ready HDMI 1.3 PJ or monitor:
Connect (1st way):
GPU DVI out > PJ HDMI in -for video
GPU HDMI out > AVR HDMI in -for audio

or if your AVR doesn't have any EDID issues with your PJ or monitor:
Connect (2nd way):
GPU HDMI out > AVR HDMI in > AVR HDMI out > PJ HDMI in.

And for the time being (my opinion) PDVD 10 Ultra is the best player for 3D BDs even TMT5 and WinDVD 10 works with 3D.

With 3dtv play, I can use the 4 glasses that I have already bought for my samsung 3d plasma, right ?
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Many thanks for the advice on here.

I now have 3D working well from my Media Center PC and IMHO my media center pc does a better job of it than the standard 3D Blu Ray player I got with my 3DTV (which is now on it's way to ebay!).

It's certainly a lot faster anyway.

Just to let people know a tried and tested combo that works - here is what I needed to get it up and running:

1. Win7 32bit. Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8400 65W, 4GB Ram, 64GB Intel SSD
2. Zotac Fanless GeForce GT430 1GB DDR3 ZONE Edition
3. Download latest drivers from Nvidia Website which includes 3D Vision Drivers.
5. Set up the 3D in the NVidia Control Panel. Important or you just get Red/Green 3D!
6. Installed Arcsoft TotalMedia 5. Media Center Interface is a vast improvement on the previous version I had (Version 3).
7. My 3D TV is Panasonic TX-P42VT20B connected via a HDMI 1.4 cable from Amazon Basics: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics...2&sr=8-3-spell

Works a treat.
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I should also add that I do not have to do any fiddling with settings.

I put in a Normal Blu-Ray and it plays normally. I put in a 3D blu ray and the TV detects it and changes the resolution to Full HD 3D.

Put the glasses on and you're away.

I was going to get a MSI Nvidia N460GTX Cyclone 1GB GDDR5 OC as it is a faster card but the Zotac is perfectly capable of the job.
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You missed to mention that you have the nvidia 3d vision emitter plugged in, right?
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You missed to mention that you have the nvidia 3d vision emitter plugged in, right?

You don't have to, with the new 3dtv driver. You Can use your tv's classes.
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You don't have to, with the new 3dtv driver. You Can use your tv's classes.

So as to clarify:

Do you mean you can use your (any) active shutter glasses with your 1.4a 3D TV over nVidia 3D Vision?

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