Like the name says, it`s a embedded/componetized Win 7 OS targeted at applications such as medical devices, industrial controls, thin clients, and alot more, including advanced set-top boxes and network media players. MS has already demonstrated W7 ES runing just Media center + it`s plugins :
Following previous guide for 7MC, i`m thinking of doing a guide on getting a barebone W7 ES on your HTPC, with all the software included in my HTPC Software GUIDE for Windows 7 Media Center , and without any additional services, even without the Win7 explorer/shell. Just a media box OS running on your HTPC.
Now, there are 3 options:
1) Making a step-by-step guide on how to do it yourself and aditional options you might want to add (Win Explorer for ex)
2) Uploading a finished ISO (on a site like megaupload or smth), with the software included in my guide and drivers for the latest hardware (Ati 5xxx series, intel Core ix HD graphics). just install and play, basically.
It seems that they released it as an evaluation for 5 months. I`m going to experiment and see if you can activate it permanently via a normal W7 (Home/Pro) key.
Nice i have been wanting to learn how to use embedded for a while and downloaded a copy of XPE while back to try to learn but never had the time... i was going to use it for a jukebox project... I am all for a walkthrough! Thanks for offering!
As long as "OEM only" means the same as WHS "OEM only" and not Windows Vista TV Pack "OEM only" (without leaks) or "Extender Technology" then all should be good. Still seeking clarification on this issue.
I'm just curious as to what's the point of this - how many people are running hardware that needs a stripped down version of Win 7 to run? It's not like the additional services from W7HP are slowing most computers to a crawl or something. This just smacks of the people who used to follow those Win XP "tweak" guides to turn off services in an attempt to eek another 1% speed (and didn't actually work).
Well, i ditched the ideea some time ago. Normal (bought) Windows licenses don`t work with embedded version, and there are no "pirated" licenses for such a thing, so it wouldn`t work anyway.
@jvarisco - Neah, the point was to get an ISO image that you could just install and have everything pre-installed and up and running, not performance.
Thread digging but I just remembered this thread existed after a comment about Windows XP Embedded on another forum.
I'm curious, does Windows Embedded Standard support acting as a Windows Media Center extender. Given Microsoft doesn't support softsled on vanilla Windows 7 versions, this is one of the things I'm wondering about with Windows Embedded. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to play with Windows Embedded at the moment so I haven't downloaded the 6-month trial just yet.
I've already read that and it doesn't really answer my question. The only way to confirm whether Windows Embedded can act as an extender is to actually try the OS which GreenEyez has done.
Any news on this one?! Since students can get a legal copy of this software through Microsoft's DreamSpark program, it might be of some interest to some of us...
I see that it and the keys are available on MSDN. I don't have any spare hardware to play around on at the moment, but I *might* be interested if I could easily dump something on an ITX system for the bedroom, if for no other reason than the hobby curiosity thing.
My thoughts is that it STILL won't support blu-ray (m2ts), mkv or HD Audio streaming as it is quite apparent that MS doesn't want to fork over the money for usage rights. So what's the point?
I've been casually watching this for some time now too. Being able to install it on a small, passively cooled PC with something like Mediabrowser really would be all I'd need it for.
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My thoughts is that it STILL won't support blu-ray (m2ts), mkv or HD Audio streaming as it is quite apparent that MS doesn't want to fork over the money for usage rights. So what's the point?
Agreed but the OEM might as well just develop their own OS or use linux as they will have to do additional develpment to make it functional. My streamer cost $45 and plays mkv, m2ts and HD Audio with a f/w upgrade flash but my Win7 HTPC is a pain in the @$$ to get set up to do it... It does it but creates other issues so the all-in-one solution is not there, really.
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Agreed but the OEM might as well just develop their own OS or use linux as they will have to do additional develpment to make it functional. My streamer cost $45 and plays mkv, m2ts and HD Audio with a f/w upgrade flash but my Win7 HTPC is a pain in the @$$ to get set up to do it... It does it but creates other issues so the all-in-one solution is not there, really.
Well, I never said anyone would be crazy enough to develop off of it
Don't forget though, an OEM developing with embedded now has the possibility of creating a fully functional streamer + PVR (with Cable Card support), something you are not getting with any other streamers on the market these days (with SageTV HD300 being somewhat the exception).
Those must have just been added recently as they definitely weren't answers originally. Not sure what happened to Greeneyez as he seems to have dropped off of AVS altogether.
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Those must have just been added recently as they definitely weren't answers originally. Not sure what happened to Greeneyez as he seems to have dropped off of AVS altogether.
I'm looking into the whole embedded thing purely for personal reasons, as I'm trying to build a small htpc system for the livingroom. Would it be possible to just add the extra functionality for BluRay and mkv through some 3rd party application during the setup process?
Anyhow, I've just set up an virtual machine to take a look at the available package options. Maybe we could select all the components which are essentials or at least optional from the following list:
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FEATURE PACKAGES
.NET Framework
.NET Framework 2.0
.NET Framework 2.0 Client Profile
.NET Framework 3.0
.NET Framework 3.0 Client Profile
.NET Framework 3.5
.NET Framework 3.5 Client Profile
Application Support
COM OLE Application Support
COM+ Application Support
MSMQ
Win32 Application Runtimes and Libraries
Boot Enviroments
Enhanced Write Filter Boot Environment
Windows Boot Environment
Browsers
Intermnet Explorer 8
Data Access and Storage
Windows Data Access Components
Windows Data Access Components - SQL
Data Integrity
Shadow Copy Volume Interface
Shadow Copy Volume Service
Windows Backup and Restore
Windows Side by Side
Devices and Printers
Device Framework
Device User Experience
Driver Frameworks
Fax and Scan
Printing Utilities and Management
Sensor and Location Platform
Standard Windows USB Stack
Diagnostics
Common Diagnostic Tools
Performance Monitoring
Problem Reports and Solutions
User
Embedded Enabling Features
Edition Branding
Bootable Windows USB Stack
Custom Logon Desktop Background Images
Dialog Box Filter
Enhanced Writer Filter with HORM
File Base Writer Filter (FBWF)
Hide Boot Screens
Message Box Default Reply
RAM Disk Controller
Registry Filter
WSDAPI für .NET
Fonts
Graphics and Multimedia
Premium Codecs
Microsoft AC3 Encoder
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder (MPEG-2, AAC)
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder (MPEG-2, H.264)
MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codecs (MP3)
MPEG-2 Audio and Video Encocder
MPEG-4 Decoders
Windows Media Video Codecs (VC-1)
Audio and Video Engines and Media Foundation
DirectX and Windows Device Experience
Graphics Platform
Image Mastering API V2
Windows Media Player 12
International
Internet Information Services - IIS
IIS 7.0
Windows Process Activation Service
Management
System Management
Group Policy Management
Microsoft Management Console (MMC)
System Management Administrative Tools
System Management Utilities
Windows Managment Instrumentation (WMI)
Windows Update
Windows Update Standalone Installer
Windows Update User Interface
Parentral Control
Power Managment
Windows Application Compatibility
Windows PowerShell 2.0
MediaCenter
Networking
Base
Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP)
Internet Authentication Service
Networking Base
Networking Foundation
TelnetServer
BITS
Bluetooth
Domain Services
IRDA and UNIMODEM
Network Access Protection
Network and Sharing Center
Network Diagnostics
Peer Networking
Quality of Service
Remote Access Service (RAS)
Small Networking Services
Telephony API Client
Windows Firewall
Wireless Networking
Remote Connections
Security
Security Credentials
System Security Management
Active Directory Rights Management
AntiMalware
Application Security
Bitlocker Secure Startup
Encrypted File System (EFS)
Security Base
Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Management
System Services
File System
Advanced File System
Core File System
File and Folder Synchronization
File Compression Utility
Remote Client
Simplified Message Block (SMB)
Remote Procedure Call
Windows Installer
User Interface
Help
Windows Speech API
Windows Shell
Accessories
Application User Experience
Shell Controls and UI Support Functions
Shell Foundation
System Control Panel
Windows Explorer Shell
Windows Explorer Shell Resources
Accessibility
Command Prompt Shell with Custom Shell Support
DVD Maker
Mobility Center and SideShow
Natural Language 6
Photo Viewer
Search Indexing
Tablet PC Support
Text Services Framework
Windows Search
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