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post #91 of 940 Old 11-20-2010, 09:53 AM
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Actually, I'm more surprised with your numbers. My Clarkdale build uses ~30W idle.

The following build actually uses 55W idle:
  • Silverstone SG05B w/300W PSU
  • Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3
  • Intel Core i5-760 2.80 GHz
  • EVGA GTS 450 1GB
  • Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333
  • G.SKILL Phoenix Pro 120GB
  • Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB

And this one's 70W idle:
  • Antec EA-380D
  • Biostar TH55B HD
  • Intel Core i7-860 2.80 GHz
  • MSI GT 240 1GB
  • Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333
  • Kingston SSDNow V+ 40GB x2
  • Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB x2

what cases are you running with your systems?
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Parents' HTPC, DH57JG+i3-540, SG06B
Bedroom HTPC, H55N-USB3+i5-760+GTS 450, SG05B
Workstation, TH55B HD+i7-860+GT 240, cheapie $20 Rosewill mATX case
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Looks as if Acer is going for a Brazos tablets, atleast that's the only AMD platform I can see in a tablet.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/23/a...ed-inbuilt-3g/

Now let's just hope it's Zacate and not Ontario, then it looks to be a great HTPC.
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I'm not sure I want to pay for a big touch screen for my HTPC only to not be able to use it. But to each his own.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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Ok I bought Giel DDR3 ram $24, a Liteon dvd rom for $39 and windows 7 $85 on black friday sales. All I have left is to wait for these babies to hit the market. I only baught 2 gigs of ram as this is kind of a low horse power machine, think it will be enough for basic HTPC duty? Recording and playing over the air HD and playing blue ray discs, plus I'm going to use it for the Zwave home automation as its going to be an always on computer. My NAS will be an older athlon X2 2.5ghz with 2 gigs of ram running vista 64bit, it will sleep when not in use. My current athlon II x2 3.0ghz system will be going to my mom with a new OCZ Agility 2 60gig SSD that I baught her for xmas. My current NAS athlon X2 2.0ghz 1 gig of ram, will be going in the dumpster unless somebody wants it. By the way my NAS's double as my desktop when I don't feel like using my laptop.

Anyways curious on your opinions, I think my mom will be blown away by the speed of her new setup mostly due to the fast SSD drive and win7.
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First Mainboard for AMD Fusion Zacate Pictured - x-bit labs

GIGABYTE GA-E350V-USB3

- AMD E350 1.60GHz dual-core processor, TDP 18W
- PCI Express 2.0 x4 slot
- Radeon HD 6310 with UVD 3.0
- DVI, HDMI (?), VGA
- 4 x SATA 6.0 Gbps ports
- USB 3.0

Looks a nice board (if you are OK with a 1.60GHz dual-core CPU)!
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Great, that's the crappy noisy little CPU fan that was on the Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (Atom D525) board I recently sold. It's 18W -- why can't it be passively cooled?!


 

 

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First Mainboard for AMD Fusion Zacate Pictured - x-bit labs

GIGABYTE GA-E350V-USB3

- AMD E350 1.60GHz dual-core processor, TDP 18W
- PCI Express 2.0 x4 slot
- Radeon HD 6310 with UVD 3.0
- DVI, HDMI (?), VGA
- 4 x SATA 6.0 Gbps ports
- USB 3.0

Looks a nice board (if you are OK with a 1.60GHz dual-core CPU)!

Why are they still including VGA on new motherboards? I'd love to see that get phased out sometime soon. I would think most people building a new PC with this would have HDMI or DVI. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Great, that's the crappy noisy little CPU fan that was on the Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (Atom D525) board I recently sold. It's 18W -- why can't it be passively cooled?!


Damn you guys beat me. Can't wait to get this puppy, notice the 4 sata ports. It would also be a decent NAS if you drop in 4 3TB drives.

I'm guessing it could be passively cooled with after-market stuff. I'm dropping mine into a Matx silverstone case so there will be tons of room for a big heat sink.
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First Mainboard for AMD Fusion Zacate Pictured - x-bit labs

GIGABYTE GA-E350V-USB3

- AMD E350 1.60GHz dual-core processor, TDP 18W
- PCI Express 2.0 x4 slot
- Radeon HD 6310 with UVD 3.0
- DVI, HDMI (?), VGA
- 4 x SATA 6.0 Gbps ports
- USB 3.0

Looks a nice board (if you are OK with a 1.60GHz dual-core CPU)!

I am more than Ok, I have a core i3 in my laptop for doing pc stuff. This will just do music playing, HD video ripping, playback ,and record for me. According to the earlier reviews it plays blue ray, and .264 video without a problem.
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Why are they still including VGA on new motherboards? I'd love to see that get phased out sometime soon. I would think most people building a new PC with this would have HDMI or DVI. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Mike

I guess they are more worried about loosing some sales than the cost of the VGA port. Remember how long mobos came with parallel ports long after they were worth anything?
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I am hoping ASUS comes out with a passively cooled board. These boards are really game changers. I can't see EVER AGAIN building a general use PC using some big tower case. It's all mini-ITX from here on out unless it's for gaming. No one ever asks me to build one of those.

 

 

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Anyone know when these go on sale?
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AMD Zacate mini-ITX Motherboards Preview

- GIGABYTE GA-E350N-USB3
- ASUS E35MI-I Deluxe
- MSI E350-E45

The ASUS E35MI-I Deluxe is what I have been looking forward to. Finally. I'll stick it in this case:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811321015

With an 2.5" HDD and a slim BD (HTPC) or SSD and slim DVD (nettop) and there you go. 8" x 9" x 3" of quiet powerful goodness.

 

 

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That Habey mini-ITX case only takes motherboards with a height of 1.5".

Any idea how tall the Asus board is with the heatsink?
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The new Zotac Zbox models (AD03) just announced at CES using the Zecate E-350 look like a pretty compelling form factor....

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Yeah, no idea the height of the ASUS board. The specs on the Gigabyte board on the Gigabyte website also don't say what it's height is. I also have no idea what the PSU connection are in the Habey chassis. The pictures show a single SATA power connector but without a molex or slim SATA connector it's pretty useless.

Another possibility is the Wesena chassis. They are quite a bit more expensive though once you add in the PSU.



Luckily that logo is just a sticker and the case doesn't come out of the box with it attached!

http://www.shop.perfecthometheater.c...?categoryId=34

 

 

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Sapphire has announced a E350 mini-itx motherboard too: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28239


http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...=0001&pid=1034

I am hoping for a wifi included board that won't be so expensive like the ASUS is rumored to be. All of the mini-itx cases I am interested in don't have an expansion slot and I've had the worst luck with USB wireless adapters. This one at least has a mini PCI-e slot.

Rumors are these boards (except the ASUS) will land around US$150 and be available be end of the month.

 

 

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It looks like the e350 will support all the audio formats and 3D blue ray. Ask yourself, can your sandybridge htpc do that.
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It looks like the e350 will support all the audio formats and 3D blue ray. Ask yourself, can your sandybridge htpc do that.

That's kind of an apples-to-oranges comparison.
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That's kind of an apples-to-oranges comparison.

I think basically you either have the best cpu with intel or the best integrated graphics with amd. There is no middle ground.
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I think basically you either have the best cpu with intel or the best integrated graphics with amd. There is no middle ground.

That sums it up pretty well. I think they're two different beasts. If you go with the Zacate system, you're going to get an excellent HTPC, but not much else in the way of computer power, but that's not what we're after. If you go with lets say the new i3 Sandy Bridge, you'll get a decent HTPC (jury is out on the HD3000 chipset, or whatever it's numbered) but a more powerful computer. That paints it with a pretty broad brush, but I'm tired and can't seem to type out what I'm thinking.

I'm going to be building a new computer in the not-too-distant future, but I'm going to probably go with a SB one and leave my 780G AMD HTPC right where it is because it does exactly what I need it to do without fail. Perhaps at some point I will upgrade it to something newer that uses less electricity, but it's good right now.
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I think basically you either have the best cpu with intel or the best integrated graphics with amd. There is no middle ground.

Until Llano comes out. I'm not interested in Zacate but Llano (K10 CPU + ~HD 5570 GPU) would be my cup of tea if they can get the power envelope manageable.
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That's always the problem. If you wait to buy what's just around the corner, you'll never buy anything.
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That's always the problem. If you wait to buy what's just around the corner, you'll never buy anything.

Heh, I'll be building a Sandy Bridge Mini-ITX Gaming HTPC soon and will probably build a "portable" Llano HTPC sometime after its release. I was planning on two Sandy Bridge builds but I think Llano would be a much better fit for the portable HTPC. Probably a lot cheaper, too. Should be easy enough to cram Llano inside an Antec ISK310-150 or perhaps an even smaller case.
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Yeah, you and I were going back and forth on my wall-of-text new PC build thread. I haven't read much about Llano, but I don't want to sidetrack the Zacate thread
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