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hmm odd. its literally only files with DTS-MA audio. DTS,AC3, and DTS-Es/EX all work just fine. Thankfully only have a couple movies i left in DTS-MA.

For DTS-MA bitstreaming you need to set Gabest as the splitter on the MKV TAB of the Shark007 Settings Application.

Use Shark007 Codecs and retain your sanity.
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Added my favorite tower style case to the first post.

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Here is a parts list of a pending build that I am doing with a friend (and fellow AVSer) next weekend.

Intel i3 3.06GHz, 2TB Hard drive, 4GB DDR RAM, Blu-ray/DVD, Mid Tower case

Only change from rec parts was slightly differenct PSU (although still a Corsair). I'll try to take some pictures and post them.

We talked about waiting for the Sandy Bridge for the 3D integrated GPU but both agreed that it wasn't needed.

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One thing on PSU that I highly recommend, although it usually costs a bit more, is a modular power supply. For those that don't know what that means, take a look at your PSU and all those cables coming out of it, many of which go unused. A modular PSU has plug ins on the side and thus you only use as many cables as you need, you put the rest in a box for later. This can be very important in smaller cases where space is tight and airflow may be an issue. With a modular PSU you can greatly increase airflow by only using the cables you need.

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One thing on PSU that I highly recommend, although it usually costs a bit more, is a modular power supply. For those that don't know what that means, take a look at your PSU and all those cables coming out of it, many of which go unused. A modular PSU has plug ins on the side and thus you only use as many cables as you need, you put the rest in a box for later. This can be very important in smaller cases where space is tight and airflow may be an issue. With a modular PSU you can greatly increase airflow by only using the cables you need.

For sure. The problem is finding a good low wattage one at a decent price.
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For sure. The problem is finding a good low wattage one at a decent price.

Agreed. There is a lack of low wattage quality modular supplies on the market. I purchased a 400 watt seasonic modular but it cost a pretty penny.
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One thing on PSU that I highly recommend, although it usually costs a bit more, is a modular power supply. For those that don't know what that means, take a look at your PSU and all those cables coming out of it, many of which go unused. A modular PSU has plug ins on the side and thus you only use as many cables as you need, you put the rest in a box for later. This can be very important in smaller cases where space is tight and airflow may be an issue. With a modular PSU you can greatly increase airflow by only using the cables you need.


honestly for a lot of cases/people the "extra" airflow is pretty dang minimal. The nmedia case i used for my htpc the extra cables tucked under the drive bay attachment thingy and are out of the way of everything. They dont block airflow into or out of the case. Same with my "main" pc which uses an antec 900 case. I just tuck the cables under the HDD in the lower bay. Point is for a simple build with most cases you can safely tuck the unused cables to a spot that doesnt impact airflow. Now for cosmetics sure it looks nicer with the fewest cbales possible...but nobody is going ot open my htpc but me

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Well here is my final list of ordered components. Everything should be in this week. For the most part it is in line with the recs, just varied on HDD, SSD, and optical drive primarily based on Newegg deals. Total cost after rebates comes to right around 700, including Win7.
  • Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3540
  • ASUS P7H55-M PRO LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
  • CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ
  • LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support, OEM
  • Kingston SSDNow V100 Series SV100S2/64GZ 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
  • Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 3Gb/s 3.5-inch 1TB Internal Hard Drive ST31000528AS, 7200RPM, 32MB Cache, OEM
  • Black nMEDIAPC HTPC-5000B
  • Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders, OEM

Once I get this up and running, I'll look to possibly adding a Ceton InfiniTV card or the external HDHRPrime if available.
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Well here is my final list of ordered components. Everything should be in this week. For the most part it is in line with the recs, just varied on HDD, SSD, and optical drive primarily based on Newegg deals. Total cost after rebates comes to right around 700, including Win7.
  • Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3540
  • ASUS P7H55-M PRO LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
  • CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ
  • LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support, OEM
  • Kingston SSDNow V100 Series SV100S2/64GZ 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
  • Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 3Gb/s 3.5-inch 1TB Internal Hard Drive ST31000528AS, 7200RPM, 32MB Cache, OEM
  • Black nMEDIAPC HTPC-5000B
  • Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders, OEM

Once I get this up and running, I'll look to possibly adding a Ceton InfiniTV card or the external HDHRPrime if available.

Looks like a really solid build.

Only critique I have is to change the Seagate 1TB 7200RPM hard drive to a larger Green 2TB. I know that the WD EARS Green 2TB is $70 right now after rebate at newegg. Of course you all know what my favorite Green HD is by now.

Great build. Look forward to hearing about it.

Edit: Here's that deal for anyone else interested...

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Looks like a really solid build.

Only critique I have is to change the Seagate 1TB 7200RPM hard drive to a larger Green 2TB. I know that the WD EARS Green 2TB is $70 right now after rebate at newegg. Of course you all know what my favorite Green HD is by now.

Great build. Look forward to hearing about it.

Yeah I was super close to buying that one but I let the negative reviews sway me. Probably shouldn't have but did.
I got impatient on waiting for the Samsung to come back on sale as I wanted to get the build going. When it does come back on sale, I very well may pick one up to throw in as well.
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Yeah I was super close to buying that one but I let the negative reviews sway me. Probably shouldn't have but did.
I got impatient on waiting for the Samsung to come back on sale as I wanted to get the build going. When it does come back on sale, I very well may pick one up to throw in as well.

I have 2tb wd green and a 640gb wd green.

WIN7 is on the 640gb drive. I have had zero issues.

The samsung wasn't available when i bought the wd green 2tb otherwise i would have bought it.
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For DTS-MA bitstreaming you need to set Gabest as the splitter on the MKV TAB of the Shark007 Settings Application.

that didnt do it. TMT5 plays the files back just fine though. Since its only ~3 movies in my collection i havent been to worried though.

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Yeah I was super close to buying that one but I let the negative reviews sway me. Probably shouldn't have but did.
I got impatient on waiting for the Samsung to come back on sale as I wanted to get the build going. When it does come back on sale, I very well may pick one up to throw in as well.

i always take reviews with a grain of salt. If there are tons of reviews that usually means its a popular item with tons of them sold. The majority of people who are going to review are the ones who have issues. Those who the drives work perfectly for most likely wont review since it does everything it is supposed to do.

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i always take reviews with a grain of salt. If there are tons of reviews that usually means its a popular item with tons of them sold. The majority of people who are going to review are the ones who have issues. Those who the drives work perfectly for most likely wont review since it does everything it is supposed to do.

I agree.

Take the gigabyte motherboard that I recommend in this thread for example.

It only received 3 eggs (stars) at Newegg however I have used this board and it is awesome. Overall Gigabyte and ASUS's build quality is outstanding.

With that being said if USB3 weren't important to me and I had never used either the ASUS or the Gigabyte board I would probably choose the ASUS based on the slightly better reviews.

So I do use the Newegg reviews somewhat --- but in the past I have used AVS members' opinions as gospel and they haven't let me down yet.
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Added a few video card options for people that want to game to the first post.
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I just want to say thanks assassin for the help and the guide. I put everything together over the weekend, and could not be happier. Just have some minor tweaking to do, and I will be all set.

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I just want to say thanks assassin for the help and the guide. I put everything together over the weekend, and could not be happier. Just have some minor tweaking to do, and I will be all set.

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Great! Show us some pics!
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jtrage posted this in another thread.

The Samsung F4 2TB is back for only about a day at $80!

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The Samsung is back on sale at newegg. Promo code EMCKJJB47. 79.99 free shipping for 48 hours.
Seems like once a week the go on sale.

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FYI - I think newegg has a policy that if you haven't received your parts yet you can call and get the difference refunded if it goes on sale after your order it.
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FYI - I think newegg has a policy that if you haven't received your parts yet you can call and get the difference refunded if it goes on sale after your order it.

Ive had pretty good luck just calling them up if its been under a week and asking about it. Obviously YMMV but for the most part if it only been a couple days they have always either refunded me the differences or just credited me with a coupon code of some sort. Think last time i got a like 15% coupon good for most things under 100 bucks so ended up being about the same as if id gotten the original item for the discounted price. But again YMMV. I tend to be nice to the customer service reps btw

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64gb sataIII corsair SSD on sale today
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148361
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Hey All,

BTW this is my favourite AVS thread right now so thanks for the all the good discussion.

I got a new 3D TV for Xmas (Panasonic VT25) and I have been thinking about building a basic HTPC. When I bought the TV it wasn't for the the 3D but now that I have it I am thinking about building a 3D capable HTPC. It would be for movies / music only (no gaming).

Sandy Bridge with integrated graphics seems to be a good choice but I am unsure given how new it is to the marketplace. If anyone has any suggestions on a basic 3D build I would appreciate it. Assassin any chance you could add an addendum for a basic recomended 3D build?

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there is a thread up top that discusses 3d. but basically, going 3d will make you buy a separate graphics card for now and negates the purpose of this build. oh an fwiw, just keep a 3d bluray player in the av rack. trust me ( i have a 3d plasma as well)
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Intel gpu supports 3d.
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Thanks JB.

I think I have read the 3D thread you refer to but it did not seem to be a "basic" build thread and gets a bit confusing for this noob. For example the need for a separate graphics card....... Would I need that for non-gaming applications or does Sandy Bridge offer up enough horsepower to run 3D bluray rips off of my network?

I have a 3D BD in the rack and it works great but I thought it might be nice to have the 3D capability in my new HTPC build.
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Thanks JB.

I think I have read the 3D thread you refer to but it did not seem to be a "basic" build thread and gets a bit confusing for this noob. For example the need for a separate graphics card....... Would I need that for non-gaming applications or does Sandy Bridge offer up enough horsepower to run 3D bluray rips off of my network?

I have a 3D BD in the rack and it works great but I thought it might be nice to have the 3D capability in my new HTPC build.

I don't think anyone can really comment on what will be the best Sandy Bridge system to build.

The issue is that not all of the CPUs are on the market yet. What's even more difficult to ascertain is which motherboards will be the best because there are only a few out there to choose from at this time. There are also some early reports that the drivers for these few boards aren't polished and it may be a while before the bugs are ironed out.

Q: Will the SB integrated GPU be enough for blu-ray 3D playback on their own?
A: It looks that way.

Q: Assassin will you make an addendum for a Sandy Bridge 3D build?
A: Not right now. I am not going to make a recommendation until I have at least some preliminary results as to what looks to be a good, basic build. Right now it is way too early, imo. I think we are looking at a few months before all the CPU choices are available as well as adequate information on motherboard options.
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Assassin this is an excellent guide. I love that you suggested the Nmedia HTPC 5000 (The 6000 is a little better IMHO but both are great for $85). I'm with you on Shark 007 w/Gabest global. I also like the link to the Toms article for folks that have never assembled a PC before. Please keep up the good work!

I just posted my build using the new Fractal Design XL case for those of you looking for an affordable 10+ hard drive non-norco build. The case is only $150.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1308100
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I don't think anyone can really comment on what will be the best Sandy Bridge system to build.

The issue is that not all of the CPUs are on the market yet. What's even more difficult to ascertain is which motherboards will be the best because there are only a few out there to choose from at this time. There are also some early reports that the drivers for these few boards aren't polished and it may be a while before the bugs are ironed out.

Q: Will the SB integrated GPU be enough for blu-ray 3D playback on their own?
A: It looks that way.

Q: Assassin will you make an addendum for a Sandy Bridge 3D build?
A: Not right now. I am not going to make a recommendation until I have at least some preliminary results as to what looks to be a good, basic build. Right now it is way too early, imo. I think we are looking at a few months before all the CPU choices are available as well as adequate information on motherboard options.

Thanks for that...sounds like I will probably just go with a basic build and maybe try a 3D build once there is more mileage on the SB tech.
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Thanks for that...sounds like I will probably just go with a basic build and maybe try a 3D build once there is more mileage on the SB tech.

Or you can just add a discrete video card that is 3D capable in the future to your current build.
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Or you can just add a discrete video card that is 3D capable in the future to your current build.

And I believe a card like the Nvidia 430GT is 3D capable and only around $50-60. At least, that's the impression I get from some of the research I've been doing - I don't even have a 3D TV to this is way down on my list of important features for a HTPC!
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I'm a longtime lurker on these forums but I just wanted to jump in and thank "assassin" for this thread. It has been invaluable. Just finished the build exactly as written except using a 64GB SSD. This was incredibly simple to build and although I have just began the process of tweaking my settings/software, etc. video play looks really nice. Thanks again for a GREAT guide!
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