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What's the exact error message that you are getting?

Flocko - When i right click my computer and click properties windows is seeing i have 4gb installed.

Assassain - I have no idea how to recreate error msg but when it pops up again i will make note of it.
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Assassin,

Can you please provide a Newegg link to the Seasonic modular power supply please.
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Can you please provide a Newegg link to the Seasonic modular power supply please.

Sure. Its in the PSU section that I posted for you earlier but here it is again.

Made by Seasonic.
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I thought that was the one, was just reading about it.

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Just made the order. I love Newegg, 3 day shipping is usually next day. So my order will more than likely be here Tuesday. I will post pics during the build. Thanks again Assassin!
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Hello, I'm obviously very new at this, but have no trouble following directions.

I'm wanting to build an HTPC that can act as a DVR as well as play our movie collection, netflix, hulu, and some browsing. I'm getting rid of cable so I'd like to have DVR capabilities with the over-the-air HD channels available in my area.

I'm partial to the ITX builds as they seem fairly eye pleasing. The HTPC would be stored in a cabinet with 2 possible locations inside. One of the shelves has a windowed pane door which allows for IR receivers to communicate but only has a 6" height clearing. The other areas are behind solid oak doors which block IR but allow bluetooth.

So here are a few questions:
1. I didn't see anything in the ITX builds about a tuner card. Is there enough room? do I need an external usb tuner to make that work? am I better off just hiding a larger HTPC?
2. The modem and router are in the same cabinet, do I need a LAN card or are these builds equipped with a broadband input somewhere?
3. I have a 1TB Lacie disk that has a ton of video. Will mediaserver be able to integrate those movie titles same as the ones that will be stored in the internal drive? I don't see why the source of the media would matter, but thought I'd ask.


I have a $400 budget, a lot of excitement, and a friend who has built many a PCs if I get in some sort of trouble.

thank you
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Hello, I'm obviously very new at this, but have no trouble following directions.

I'm wanting to build an HTPC that can act as a DVR as well as play our movie collection, netflix, hulu, and some browsing. I'm getting rid of cable so I'd like to have DVR capabilities with the over-the-air HD channels available in my area.

I'm partial to the ITX builds as they seem fairly eye pleasing. The HTPC would be stored in a cabinet with 2 possible locations inside. One of the shelves has a windowed pane door which allows for IR receivers to communicate but only has a 6" height clearing. The other areas are behind solid oak doors which block IR but allow bluetooth.

So here are a few questions:
1. I didn't see anything in the ITX builds about a tuner card. Is there enough room? do I need an external usb tuner to make that work? am I better off just hiding a larger HTPC?
2. The modem and router are in the same cabinet, do I need a LAN card or are these builds equipped with a broadband input somewhere?
3. I have a 1TB Lacie disk that has a ton of video. Will mediaserver be able to integrate those movie titles same as the ones that will be stored in the internal drive? I don't see why the source of the media would matter, but thought I'd ask.


I have a $400 budget, a lot of excitement, and a friend who has built many a PCs if I get in some sort of trouble.

thank you

1. You can fit a tuner card in some of the cases. Also take a look at the HD Homerun as you can put it anywhere on your network and since your router is nearby it might be a great option. This obviously is an external network tuner. I think their product is awesome. As a bonus ANY PC on your network can access and use the tuners in the Homerun.
2. Nope. LAN is built in and obviously preferred to Wireless. No LAN card needed.
3. Yes, it can incorporate those files just fine.

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Just completed my second build for the bedroom and remembered to take a few pics before buttoning it up.

Stayed with the Intel i3-2100, but tried the ASRock m/b this time. Pretty much a simple build following the guides with 4 GB (2x2) G.Skill memory, a 120GB OCZ SSD that I had (contrary to some bad reviews have had no problems), and the hec 7k09 media center case. Went with the smaller case as opposed to my first build using the Silverstone GD04B. I was surprised how quiet the hec is. Much quieter than the Cable Co DVR. The hec is a little tight to work in but everything fits fine. Mounted the SSD in the 3.5 bay using Velcro. No HD for now. Playing movies from the main HTPC and live TV off of an HDHomerun Prime.

Thanks again for all the info on this thread and the great guides from assassin.

Assassin, if you are interested, in your paid guides#5, Guide #42, Sleep timer, there is an updated version that can be found here. This timer works great and the new one has some added features.
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Just completed my second build for the bedroom and remembered to take a few pics before buttoning it up.

Stayed with the Intel i3-2100, but tried the ASRock m/b this time. Pretty much a simple build following the guides with 4 GB (2x2) G.Skill memory, a 120GB OCZ SSD that I had (contrary to some bad reviews have had no problems), and the hec 7k09 media center case. Went with the smaller case as opposed to my first build using the Silverstone GD04B. I was surprised how quiet the hec is. Much quieter than the Cable Co DVR. The hec is a little tight to work in but everything fits fine. Mounted the SSD in the 3.5 bay using Velcro. No HD for now. Playing movies from the main HTPC and live TV off of an HDHomerun Prime.

Thanks again for all the info on this thread and the great guides from assassin.

Assassin, if you are interested, in your paid guides#5, Guide #42, Sleep timer, there is an updated version that can be found here. This timer works great and the new one has some added features.

Great build and thanks for taking and posting some pics!

BTW I updated the link for the Timer in my guides. Thanks for the heads up!
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A couple of times now I've touched my case (probably around the BD drive button) and gotten a shock that turned my display into static. I had to power off the computer, then restart it, which gave me the "Windows quit unexpectedly" startup screen.
Am I missing a ground or shorting out somewhere?


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A couple of times now I've touched my case (probably around the BD drive button) and gotten a shock that turned my display into static. I had to power off the computer, then restart it, which gave me the "Windows quit unexpectedly" startup screen.
Am I missing a ground or shorting out somewhere?


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Yes. Definitely not normal. Look for a short and keep us updated.
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Assassin:

Bought the guides and put together the HTPC this weekend. Its lots of fun to do. A little nerve wracking as HTPC cases are a bit tighter than normal PC cases - but it fired up great the first time.
I am having a challenge - likely user inflicted - with Windows Media Center. I have a large collection of movies - they have all been scraped by MCM. When I go into Media Browser - no movies show up. I just get a ghost of a file tab. Where have I gone wrong? Before MCM they showed up - boring icons - in Media Browser. But now that I have all the stuff I am getting nothing.
Any clues here?
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Bought the guides and put together the HTPC this weekend. Its lots of fun to do. A little nerve wracking as HTPC cases are a bit tighter than normal PC cases - but it fired up great the first time.
I am having a challenge - likely user inflicted - with Windows Media Center. I have a large collection of movies - they have all been scraped by MCM. When I go into Media Browser - no movies show up. I just get a ghost of a file tab. Where have I gone wrong? Before MCM they showed up - boring icons - in Media Browser. But now that I have all the stuff I am getting nothing.
Any clues here?

Great! Glad all the hard parts went smoothly!

You have to have at least 3 files in a folder if I remember correctly.

Have you cleared the cache through the MB service cache? Then re-run the library refresh from within MB.
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OK, this is probably a simple thing but it's throwing me for a loop.

I built my HTPC and have it outputting via HDMI to my Panasonic receiver.

I set things up per Assassin's Guide 2. I am using LAV Filters v0.44.

My DVD Rips using MakeMKV (Main Movie, Dolby Digital or DTS Sound) pass everything perfectly to my receiver which does the decoding and I get perfect 5.1 surround sound.

The problem is on some .mkv and .mp4 files I have downloaded that have 5.1 channel AAC audio. I get sound, but it's only Stereo. I want the HTPC to decode this 5.1 AAC sound and send the channels to my receiver but it's not.

Is there a setting somewhere I am missing?
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OK, this is probably a simple thing but it's throwing me for a loop.

I built my HTPC and have it outputting via HDMI to my Panasonic receiver.

I set things up per Assassin's Guide 2. I am using LAV Filters v0.44.

My DVD Rips using MakeMKV (Main Movie, Dolby Digital or DTS Sound) pass everything perfectly to my receiver which does the decoding and I get perfect 5.1 surround sound.

The problem is on some .mkv and .mp4 files I have downloaded that have 5.1 channel AAC audio. I get sound, but it's only Stereo. I want the HTPC to decode this 5.1 AAC sound and send the channels to my receiver but it's not.

Is there a setting somewhere I am missing?

The receiver can only decode what's sent to it. If its not encoded correctly then its not going to be output correctly. I have seen this issue multiple times as well. Use mediainfo to try see what's in the file.

Bottom line: There is a lot of garbage out there.

Glad your rips that you made the correct way is working to perfection though!
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This is the build I am looking at - using a few parts I have lying around -

CASE: nMEDIAPC HTPC 1000B
MB: ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 AMD 880G
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz
CPU Fan:Scythe SCSK-1100 100mm Shuriken Rev. B 3 Heat Pipes CPU
Memory:Kingston HyperX X2 Grey Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 .99
Video Card: XFX HD-645X-ZQH2 Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI
TV Card: HDHomeRun DUAL HDHR3-US
Power Supply:SILVERSTONE ST405 400W ATX12V
HD:Patriot Torqx 2 PT264GS25SSDR 2.5" 64GB SSD
Blu Ray Drive:SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo SATA Model SH-B123L
Remote:Rosewill RRC-126

I own the AMD CPU and Silverstone power supply and the blu ray drive.

This is replacing my Tivo so I need it to be quiet. Will that power supply do or should I look at something else. Two other I had on my list were the Antec Neo 400 or the Seasonic Fanless but that was kind of pricey.

"Dang! You got shocks, pegs... lucky! You ever take it off any sweet jumps? "

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This is the build I am looking at - using a few parts I have lying around -

CASE: nMEDIAPC HTPC 1000B
MB: ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 AMD 880G
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz
CPU Fan:Scythe SCSK-1100 100mm Shuriken Rev. B 3 Heat Pipes CPU
Memory:Kingston HyperX X2 Grey Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 .99
Video Card: XFX HD-645X-ZQH2 Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI
TV Card: HDHomeRun DUAL HDHR3-US
Power Supply:SILVERSTONE ST405 400W ATX12V
HD:Patriot Torqx 2 PT264GS25SSDR 2.5" 64GB SSD
Blu Ray Drive:SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo SATA Model SH-B123L
Remote:Rosewill RRC-126

I own the AMD CPU and Silverstone power supply and the blu ray drive.

This is replacing my Tivo so I need it to be quiet. Will that power supply do or should I look at something else. Two other I had on my list were the Antec Neo 400 or the Seasonic Fanless but that was kind of pricey.

Looks fine. I would try the PSU you have and if its noisy get a different one.

The Antec Neo 400 (Seasonic) is my favorite PSU right now for the money. I have one in my server. Its inaudible.
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Looks fine. I would try the PSU you have and if its noisy get a different one.

The Antec Neo 400 (Seasonic) is my favorite PSU right now for the money. I have one in my server. Its inaudible.

Are you referring to the same one -Antec

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Are you referring to the same one -Antec

Yep. Made by Seasonic for Antec.
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A couple of notes from my HTPC build. Used the Silverstone GT05B case. Very attractive case. Goes nicely into my system rack. The case is solid and well built. This is the first time I have ever seen instructions on assembly come with a case. Very nice. However, the box calls the three fans "silent". Hah. Only silent if you are deaf. My equipment rack sounded like the deck of an aircraft carrier. 3 120 mm fans screaming. I took the advice of assassin and changed the pin to 5 V. Better, but not great. Went out and bought some really quiet fans. Paid all of $12 each. 11 dBA at 900 rpm. Enermax TBSilence fans. Recommended part for quiet HTPC builds.

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Intel I3 2105
Gigabit GA Z68 MA Mobo
Gskill 4 GB RAM
PC Power 400W Modular PS
80 GB Intel SSD

PC Power power supply - as recommended in the hardware guide - is a rock solid practically silent PS.

Shameless plug for Assassin - I am no rookie - have put together maybe a half dozen PCs before. Didnt think the guides would be of much value. The guides were of great value - especially dealing with the SSD.

I wanted the HTPC for heavy audio use. Also going to put in a shameless plug for J River Media Center 17. Phenomenal software for an HTPC. Especially for music. Bit perfect output, and a great Theater screen GUI. Assassin should do a guide on that one.

For movies - I am leaning towards XBMC rather than Media Browser. Maybe because I am having challenges with media browser - but it seems like a bunch a screwing around when compared to XBMC.
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Have you cleared the cache through the MB service cache? Then re-run the library refresh from within MB.

I'll bite. How do you do that?
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Shameless plug for Assassin - I am no rookie - have put together maybe a half dozen PCs before. Didnt think the guides would be of much value. The guides were of great value - especially dealing with the SSD.

I wanted the HTPC for heavy audio use. Also going to put in a shameless plug for J River Media Center 17. Phenomenal software for an HTPC. Especially for music. Bit perfect output, and a great Theater screen GUI. Assassin should do a guide on that one.

Great build!

Thanks for the plug on the guides. I appreciate it.

As far as J.River I actually have a set of phenomenal guides that are done on Audiophile settings (they were actually created by an Audiophile for our company) and I can add them. But they seem a bit out of place without a set of video setup guides as well. I had asked an AVS member to help me with the J.River video guides and he agreed but ultimately didn't come to fruition.

So here I am with a handful of incredible audiophile J.River guides written by someone who knows WAY more about audiophile stuff than I ever will. I need a partner to handle to video part of it and then I would be happy to post them. If anyone is interested send me a PM.

Oh, and Media Browser really isn't that hard to use. Its just completely different than XBMC. I thought the exact same thing about XBMC until I figured it out. There, of course, were no real guides for either before mine were created so I had to stumble and fumble my way through each one to get it just right.
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Media Browser service icon in the "Show Hidden Icons" of your toolbar.
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The receiver can only decode what's sent to it. If its not encoded correctly then its not going to be output correctly. I have seen this issue multiple times as well. Use mediainfo to try see what's in the file.

Bottom line: There is a lot of garbage out there.

Glad your rips that you made the correct way is working to perfection though!


Does that mean you may be willing to put out a "guide" on reliable D/L content that is credible so folks don't get the "garbage in garbage out" results ?

I don't mean the shady bit torr... stuff . I mean solid and reliable.
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1. You can fit a tuner card in some of the cases. Also take a look at the HD Homerun as you can put it anywhere on your network and since your router is nearby it might be a great option. This obviously is an external network tuner. I think their product is awesome. As a bonus ANY PC on your network can access and use the tuners in the Homerun.
2. Nope. LAN is built in and obviously preferred to Wireless. No LAN card needed.
3. Yes, it can incorporate those files just fine.

Consider purchasing my guides as they will save you TONS of time, money and headache medicine.

Post #10k! Way to go Assassin! Thanks for the all the hard work you have provided to the community!
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Does that mean you may be willing to put out a "guide" on reliable D/L content that is credible so folks don't get the "garbage in garbage out" results ?

I don't mean the shady bit torr... stuff . I mean solid and reliable.

As much as I would love to do that I won't.
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Post #10k! Way to go Assassin! Thanks for the all the hard work you have provided to the community!

Thanks! Its been fun!
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Great build!

Thanks for the plug on the guides. I appreciate it.

Oh, and Media Browser really isn't that hard to use. Its just completely different than XBMC. I thought the exact same thing about XBMC until I figured it out. There, of course, were no real guides for either before mine were created so I had to stumble and fumble my way through each one to get it just right.

I'll say it again...those guides are worth much more than I paid for them! They may be the SINGLE most important part of ANY HTPC project...and it's the first thing I advise people to purchase!

XMBC still confuses the he k out of me...but now that there is ans "Assassin Guide", I might be able to figure it out.

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I'll bite. How do you do that?

I am adding this to the guides right now. I will post the link once complete.
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The Antec Neo 400 (Seasonic) is my favorite PSU right now for the money. I have one in my server. Its inaudible.

On cool. That's the one I bought for the new bedroom revision! Feel good about that choice right now.

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Paul
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