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This case has been discontinued which is a HUGE problem and leaves a huge void in the ITX HTPC case options.

I agree that this case is by far the best budget ITX out there.

I see the Athena options but those are already deactivated at Newegg as well.

So what's going to be the new go-to ITX case once these models are completely gone???

Crap really? When I saw it no longer on Newegg I figured something was up.

Going to have to make the Apex work...
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I took some photos of my build of fanless Zocate with ISK-100 and ripjaws, if anyone is interested.

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Crap really? When I saw it no longer on Newegg I figured something was up.

Going to have to make the Apex work...

There are very few ITX cases that meet my criteria...

1. At least one 3.5" drive
2. At least one optical drive
3. Areas to mount an additional SSD or 2.5" drive
4. Power supply that isn't directly over the CPU fan.

Man, I loved that Rosewill. I am really sad to see it go.
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Here is an interesting list of Intel® Desktop Board Mini-ITX Chassis:
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/rese...394803.htm?prn

The Rosewill and CFI -A8989 case equivalents are also listed there
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There are very few ITX cases that meet my criteria...

1. At least one 3.5" drive
2. At least one optical drive
3. Areas to mount an additional SSD or 2.5" drive
4. Power supply that isn't directly over the CPU fan.

Man, I loved that Rosewill. I am really sad to see it go.

That is exactly my concern, also the size the Rosewill was perfect as I only have a small amount of space and cannot go bigger.

Can you get a smaller PS for the Apex unit by chance? The 250W in it is over kill for most people and if you could get something even an inch or so shorter it would certainly make me feel a lot more comfortable.
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That is exactly my concern, also the size the Rosewill was perfect as I only have a small amount of space and cannot go bigger.

Can you get a smaller PS for the Apex unit by chance? The 250W in it is over kill for most people and if you could get something even an inch or so shorter it would certainly make me feel a lot more comfortable.

You can use a PicoPSU.
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You can use a PicoPSU.

I have looked at them before, I guess that is the simplest solution if you are going to use the Apex.

I will send you a PM as to not clutter up this thread to much
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At Fry's they have a $40 mITX case with 300w and I think it looks fine, certainly better than the "cube" type cases you see.

http://www.frys.com/product/6145869






As much as I like the Habey cases, none of they space for expansion. It all has to be based on what you would put in laptops (mini cards) or USB which adds to the clutter.

For $40, I'd say this is pretty good. It has no "feet" so it can't be turned horizontal without covering up a cooling vent. That's easily solved...

That and the InWin Wavy are the only sub-$100 mITX cases I like that have a slot opening. The InWin has Four, not that you would use them all with a mITX board, but at else one additional can be used for extra USB ports, Firewire or eSATA.

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Sure you can send more and get maybe a better looking case. But I'm driving to build a sub-$300 in parts HTPC and getting the cheapest case possible is important while still remaining stylish and giving me an important expansion slot.

Its either that or a bunch of USB devices...

I've been using one of these for a little under a year in our bedroom. It's a nice case and I like that it takes a full-size optical drive. I intially ran a Zotac ITX board in it but recently replaced it with an ASRock Zacate.

The PSU in it recently went out and had to be replaced, but I honestly didn't expect it to last as long as it did. For $40, it's a good buy.
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I am looking at this one regular price $56





APEX MI-008

250W PS
standard size drive bays: External 5.25", External 3.5", Internal 3.5"
front ports behind i/o cover panel
11.80" x 8.70" x 5.1"

I have this case on my Zacate build and it's a tight fit but what do you expect from a mini-ITX case?? Works perfectly, good quality, looks nice in the media center, best sub-$100 case out there IMO.

*edit* Don't let the picture fool you, it DOESN'T have a cheap looking purple power button... It's black and glows a faint blue around the edge when it's on. It's very subtle and looks mellow.
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I have this case on my Zacate build and it's a tight fit but what do you expect from a mini-ITX case?? Works perfectly, good quality, looks nice in the media center, best sub-$100 case out there IMO.

*edit* Don't let the picture fool you, it DOESN'T have a cheap looking purple power button... It's black and glows a faint blue around the edge when it's on. It's very subtle and looks mellow.

I've used that case with the i3. Terrible to use with the i3, imo.

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More important: will Llano fit in the Habey 800 case ???

 

 

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I've used that case with the i3. Terrible to use with the i3, imo.


Uh oh, I already requested an RMA on my zacate and ordered the i3 sandy bridge... So does it fit and it's just tight or simply not usable?
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Uh oh, I already requested an RMA on my zacate and ordered the i3 sandy bridge... So does it fit and it's just tight or simply not usable?

Extremely tight. You actually have to use a little force to get the cpu and psu to fit.

That was with clarkdale and I bet the Sandy Bridge is the same.
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Extremely tight. You actually have to use a little force to get the cpu and psu to fit.

That was with clarkdale and I bet the Sandy Bridge is the same.

Almost looks like I could dremel off the fan "cage" and just make sure the cables are secured well away from the cpu... I doubt anyone would advise this but can't see much of a purpose of it other than to keep the sloppy errant SATA cable from stopping the fan.
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Almost looks like I could dremel off the fan "cage" and just make sure the cables are secured well away from the cpu... I doubt anyone would advise this but can't see much of a purpose of it other than to keep the sloppy errant SATA cable from stopping the fan.

I belive I read somewhere that the sandy bridge heatsink fans are smaller then the clarkdale fans so you might not have to do anything.

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I belive I read somewhere that the sandy bridge heatsink fans are smaller then the clarkdale fans so you might not have to do anything.

The new goodies are sitting on the door step right now, can't wait to get home and tear into it. I love new electronics, there is something about breaking that anti-static seal...
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Almost looks like I could dremel off the fan "cage" and just make sure the cables are secured well away from the cpu... I doubt anyone would advise this but can't see much of a purpose of it other than to keep the sloppy errant SATA cable from stopping the fan.

You know, you could just get a 3rd party cooler such as the Silverstone NT07-1156.

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35w TDP Sandy come with shorter coolers. Regular models come with the same cooler as Clarkdale.
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You know, you could just get a 3rd party cooler such as the Silverstone NT07-1156.

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35w TDP Sandy come with shorter coolers. Regular models come with the same cooler as Clarkdale.

I'm crafty...where there's a will there's a way.

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You know, you could just get a 3rd party cooler such as the Silverstone NT07-1156.

I have one of these for my i3-540 in a PC-Q09 case. I am very happy with it. Highly recommended.

 

 

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I have one of these for my i3-540 in a PC-Q09 case. I am very happy with it. Highly recommended.
Well that stinks. That's an extra $25 that was not needed before.
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Well that stinks. That's an extra $25 that was not needed before.

It wasn't necessary for the PC-Q09. It fits the stock cooler no issues at all except my stock HSF was noisy. The Silverstone is much quieter and I know it'll fit in smaller cases I might move the build into in the future to try out.

 

 

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It wasn't necessary for the PC-Q09.

Good lord. That case is $150!

And it doesn't have room for a 3.5" drive.
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Can I use a Mini ITX with the XONAR HDAV 1.3 AND the H6 Extension?

I haven't discovered how/where the H6 connects to the Motherboard and how much space it takes up.

Can I use a mini ITX or will I have to go Full ATX with this sound card?
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Almost looks like I could dremel off the fan "cage" and just make sure the cables are secured well away from the cpu... I doubt anyone would advise this but can't see much of a purpose of it other than to keep the sloppy errant SATA cable from stopping the fan.

I'm an idiot... not sure why thought the fan motor was attached the fins and not the plastic around it. Duh. Well i put it all together last night and the power supply definitely touches the fan but i wouldn't say any "force" was required to get it all to fit.
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I'm an idiot... not sure why thought the fan motor was attached the fins and not the plastic around it. Duh. Well i put it all together last night and the power supply definitely touches the fan but i wouldn't say any "force" was required to get it all to fit.

Hopefully, the fan will still be able to provide enough cooling ability to prevent the CPU from catching on fire, unlike your cat.

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Hopefully, the fan will still be able to provide enough cooling ability to prevent the CPU from catching on fire, unlike your cat.

The one I built sounded like a jet engine when it was playing 1080p.

There is a thread on here somewhere with a picture from me which showed how to install another fan in the side of the case. I did that and it REALLY helped with cooling.

I'm just not a fan of a case where 3/4 of the CPU fan is covered and touching the PSU.

Edit: Here it is. 120mm fan.

Another option is to not use an optical drive and put your 3.5" hard drive in the 5.25" optical drive space with an adapter:
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My favorite HTPC case is the Lian Li pc-q08. You can put a bunch of drives in it and use it as a NAS besides a media center. That way you wont need to network stream your HD movies. They will come from the same place.

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My favorite HTPC case is the Lian Li pc-q08.

That thing is $120 and without a PSU.
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The one I built sounded like a jet engine when it was playing 1080p.

There is a thread on here somewhere with a picture from me which showed how to install another fan in the side of the case. I did that and it REALLY helped with cooling.

I'm just not a fan of a case where 3/4 of the CPU fan is covered and touching the PSU.

Edit: Here it is. 120mm fan.

Another option is to not use an optical drive and put your 3.5" hard drive in the 5.25" optical drive space with an adapter:

I can understand that, i have yet to put any stress on the new chip as i just barely installed windows last night. That 120mm fan is a good idea, I do have a 3.5" hd but there is a bay right below the 5.25" that I can use. Might do the upgraded low profile fan if this one turns out to be too noisy for me.

I like your hd "adapter" in that picture. What is that a long wire tie?
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That thing is $120 and without a PSU.

Aluminum costs more than steel, and some buyers find value in that, or in different features, aesthetics or construction quality. This thread appears to be open to discussion of all mini-ITX cases, not just low-cost cases with PSUs.

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