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Just a teaser for now:


 

Latest Hardware As Of June, 2013:

-Intel Haswell i7-4770S
-ASRock B85M-ITX
-Mushkin Enhanced Stealth DDR3 1600 8GB (2x4GB) dual channel RAM @ 8-8-8-24
-Samsung 470 Series 64GB SSD for Windows + immediate apps
-Samsung Pro 840 Series 256GB SSD for storage + 'auxiliary' apps
-Lite-On CD/DVD combo drive
-Intel HD 4600 Graphics (on CPU)
-ASUS Xonar Essence STX PCIe sound card
-PicoPSU-150-xt 12V DC-DC ATX power supply
-HiFiMAN HE-400 headphones
-Acer H274HLBMID Black 27" LED backlit LCD (only 20 watts!)
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
-Case/Chassis: Rosewill RC-CIX-01 BK Glossy Black Steel Cube Mini-ITX

 

Old Components:
CPU: Pentium G620
Mobo: ASUS P8H61-I
RAM: G.Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1333
SSD: Samsung 64GB SSD
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB (to be added later, perhaps)
ODD: Lite-On CD/DVD burner
Sound/Video: Onboard (for now, may upgrade...)
PSU: PicoPSU 150XT
4-Pin Male Molex to Dual SATA connector
LCD: Acer H274HLBMID Black 27"
Rosewill RC-CIX-01 BK Mini-ITX case
Rosewill 25' white CAT6 ethernet cable
Sennheiser HD201 headphones
Orange (not the color) keyboard
Logitech MX518 mouse (love the feel)
XTRAC PADS Ripper XXL Mouse Pad

Also:
New desk
New office chair
New office chair mat (kinda works)
V7 4-outlet surge protector

And that wonderful old lamp...

Stay tuned for build progression updates and answers to any of your questions, comments, arguments, etc. LOL!

 

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I'm jealous! I bought all my components earlier in the week - I have the same Rosewill RC-CIX-01 sitting on my desk right now, but the rest of the components are still in the mail

Why would you only go with a 500GB drive for your (proposed/maybe) storage upgrade? Since you'll have the OS on the SSD - you don't really need that storage drive to be fast. Just curious - I know you said may upgrade.

Are you worried about your PicoPSU limiting your video card upgrade options?

Looks like it'll be a great build, I'm looking forward to reading how it goes!
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Hey, strahdv!

The 500GB is actually left over from my current high-end gaming build (\\Project\\ Triple Surround Fury) in which I have a C300 256GB SSD that I have barely used half of. I really do not need the 500GB, it's just a left over.

If I do need to upgrade the video card in the future, I will simply buy a new SFX PSU. Silverstone makes a 450W one that comes with the SG05B.

I still have a few parts arriving as well. I thought that I could use an old ODD from my first build circa 2005, however, it is an IDE optical disk drive. So, I had to order a new one, which should be here middle of next week.

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Finally got the build finished up today, I was running the stock PSU that came with the case and no optical drive (as discussed above). I installed Linux Mint 10 KDE via a USB thumb drive, and everything works flawlessly! Internet connected right away, didn't have to install any additional drivers or support (other than temp sensors, which I am STILL working on). And the new monitor is free of dead pixels! What a quick, snappy, little hassle-free build.

Here's our Mini-ITX motherboard, all 6.75" x 6.75" of it with the Intel stock cooler installed:


Top of the case with the top off on the new desk:


Plenty of room, soft edges (no cuts!), 80mm exhaust fan in the back (very silent):


Side of the case with the stock 150W PSU:


Back of the case, note the PCI slot with cover:


No Dremel required for PicoPSU outlet :


PicoPSU connector coming from the outlet:


PicoPSU 24-pin connector and RAM clearance:


Plenty of airflow, lots of room for more drives:


Connections on the SSD side:


I also made a video on the sound levels of this build, including the sound levels of the Intel Sandy Bridge 1155 stock cooler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmHeutnIon0

Fun build, nice and quiet. Put everything together in roughly 2 hours. Primary use: Star Trek TNG DVDs, future DVD releases, YouTube, and music. Linux Mint 10 KDE works well, and the Pentium G620 is just enough to keep up with everything. All-in-all, I give this build a 9/10, it could use a little more juice, but, for the price--roughly $700--It's not bad.

**Edit: 8/14/2011: Scroll down for my month review of this system, it turns out that Linux doesn't work so well.**

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Wow, I knew the picoPSU would free up a lot of space...but that case looks almost empty with the stock PSU removed! I've been really happy with the sound levels on the stock coolers too. Much better than they used to be :\\
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So, it's been a month, here's a follow-up review!

Linux sucks. It's buggy and common tasks are overly complicated compared to Windows. Problems that I have run into:

1. VLC Media Player - When loading up a DVD, in this case, a Star Trek TNG DVD with four episodes, VLC will hang for a good minute or so until it loads the menu screen. On Windows, the same DVD loads instantly. Also, constant screen tearing on VLC in Linux.

2. Flash Player - Flash and Linux do not work so well together. I have the latest version of Flash installed using Flash Aid, a Firefox add-on, however, I still get certain Flash streams that will not play, will not display, or will display for a few seconds and then freeze up! Add to that, on occasion, right-clicking the Flash object to request the Flash menu pop-up causes a freeze-up.

3. Multitasking - Ok, I'm running some low-end hardware here, but, having more than 3-4 windows open can REALLY cause Linux to slow down and even freeze! With Windows, it seems to bog down, but will keep going and will not freeze up.

4. Simple tasks, OVERLY complicated - Installing a program, navigating to a folder, accessing certain files, even displaying temps, require many more steps than they would in Windows. For a whole month, I tried to find the correct install package to simply display my system's temperatures via ANYTHING--a widget, a panel, any sort of temperature display. NOTHING. Even the directions that I came across, as clear as they could be, required several steps that were still not clear enough.

So, after a month of dealing with all of those little annoyances which eventually become big annoyances, I purchased a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit today. I will report back here with ACTUAL system temperatures and more of an overall feel for the actual HTPC.

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Did you try a xbmc live setup?If your are only watching dvds ,music and youtube a xbmc would of been cake walk.
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Brother, I wouldn't trust Linux to run XBMC correctly.

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I am now running Windows 7 Home 64-bit on this Desktop HTPC, and I must say that the differences are night and day.

I can actually see my system's temperatures thanks to a program called RealTemp (which I've been using on all of my builds for quite some time now), which is simply installed and then displays temperatures when opened. Linux, however took a bunch of fadangling about and I still was not able to get a temperature readout of my system.

Also, VLC Media Player works flawlessly. Linux would freeze for a good minute or two when trying to load up a DVD with VLC. Windows does not. VLC opens the DVD right away at the menu.

As far as the random lock-ups that I was getting with Linux (usually when having multiple tabs open in Firefox), I have yet to find out how Windows will perform. We shall see in the days and weeks ahead.

I'll add that everything seems faster with Windows on this build. Remember now, I'm running some pretty "low-end" hardware (CPU, Mobo, onboard video and sound). I wouldn't exactly call the SSD "low-end" but, I digress. With Linux, the overall system seemed not exactly sluggish, just...tentative. Windows feels more smooth and more crisp overall than Linux. Must be that hardware acceleration.

Right now, I'm seeing temps that idle around 30C and will shoot up to the low 40s during software installs. I'll report more temps on DVD playback, multiple-tab browsing, etc. soon.

Stay tuned.

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Linux + Intel HD graphics = not a good ideea. Their drivers are buggy and XBMC isn`t yet compiled with VAAPI support to get hardware decoding on the GPU for playback. You may want to try OpenELEC : http://www.openelec.tv/, since they added VAAPI support for XBMC and their OS for Intel graphics
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I am a little surprised by your experience with the G620. I have built 2 HTPCs and a server with that CPU and I really like it. It does everything I have thrown at it with ease. I have never seen it in normal HTPC applications jump over 30% useage.
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I am a little surprised by your experience with the G620. I have built 2 HTPCs and a server with that CPU and I really like it. It does everything I have thrown at it with ease. I have never seen it in normal HTPC applications jump over 30% useage.

+1 (G620T as well)
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I am a little surprised by your experience with the G620. I have built 2 HTPCs and a server with that CPU and I really like it. It does everything I have thrown at it with ease. I have never seen it in normal HTPC applications jump over 30% useage.

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+1 (G620T as well)

Yes, sirs. Windows runs this setup very well.

Asn, I have the non-T G620 (like it makes a big difference).

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PAINTERS TAPE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That mod requires DUCT TAPE!

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PAINTERS TAPE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That mod requires DUCT TAPE!

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Ahahahaaa! Holds up just fine thus far.

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Haswell Upgrade incoming! Stay tuned!...

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Friends, I am posting this message to you from my new Haswell build. This thing runs hot! I am running an i7 4770S and the stock cooler is not what you want to use. My temps have maxed out at 81C on one core and upper 70s on the others. Good thing that I bought that aftermarket Noctua cooler. I ran the stock cooler part of a series of tests, etc. This thing is also noisy on startup. More information and media to come, stay tuned...

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I'm about to try myself

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Finally up and running, let the tests begin! If you would like to inquire about a test for me to run with this new build, just post it in this thread, or message me on here. Thank you.

HTPC Build Components:
-Intel Haswell i7-4770S
-ASRock B85M-ITX
-Mushkin Enhanced Stealth DDR3 1600 8GB (2x4GB) dual channel RAM @ 8-8-8-24
-Samsung 470 Series 64GB SSD for Windows + immediate apps
-Samsung Pro 840 Series 256GB SSD for storage + 'auxiliary' apps
-Lite-On CD/DVD combo drive
-Intel HD 4600 Graphics (on CPU)
-ASUS Xonar Essence STX PCIe sound card
-PicoPSU-150-xt 12V DC-DC ATX power supply
-HiFiMAN HE-400 headphones
-Acer H274HLBMID Black 27" LED backlit LCD (only 20 watts!)
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
-Case/Chassis: Rosewill RC-CIX-01 BK Glossy Black Steel Cube Mini-ITX

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Sweet !

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I love that you're keeping the RC-CIX-01. It was my first mini-ITX case and it has a special place in my heart smile.gif. Think of the power inside that tiny little case! Keep up the good work!

 

 

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I love that you're keeping the RC-CIX-01. It was my first mini-ITX case and it has a special place in my heart smile.gif. Think of the power inside that tiny little case! Keep up the good work!

Yes! The case is a desktop HTPC favorite of mine for a number of reasons:

1. Small footprint/shoebox size.
2. Standard Optical Drive (not slim).
3. Plenty of room for cabling/wires/and airflow.
4. Sleek/elegant look.
5. Easy to work with: simple internal design with cable management options.
6. No sharp edges.
7. Works well as a 'shelf' for stacking DVD cases, or placing dinner plates on top of.

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Here's Heaven Benchmark 4.0 running on my Intel Haswell HTPC build:
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Just for comparisons sake what an overclocked HD4000 can do at 1600Mhz with 2000Mhz ram.

1150 and ram still at 2000.

Matching the gpu speed eg 1200 and moving my 3770K down to 3.1Ghz just for the sake of it (Heaven doesn't even touch the CPU so lol)

Huh, must be my ram since the HD4600 should be plenty fast compared to HD4000 (20 vs 16 EU's)

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Give me link ill test mine

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Waiting for your results, bro. biggrin.gif

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Hey, guys, just dropping in an update here! Here are a few games and benchmark runs from my new Haswell HTPC upgrade:

Heroes of Newerth - Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Haswell):


Cinebench R11.5 (64-bit) - Intel Haswell i7-4770S:


So, my friend says to me, he says to me, "Hey, man, you really should check out PlanetSide 2, I'm curious to see just how well it'll run on Intel's new Haswell line via Intel HD Graphics 4600." I'm like, "What the heck? Why not give the people what they want?" The people are the fine folks on the internet, including you! So, here, I present to you, PlanetSide 2 on Intel's latest CPU series, Haswell:

PlanetSide 2 - Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Haswell):

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