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you can change this in lav splitter by changing the subtitle setting to forced only.

afaik you can't load 2 subtitle at the same time. the "enable automatic forced subtitle stream" should be active to.

if you set a language there is a change it tries to load normal subtitle stream but can't load forced subs at the same time.
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you can change this in lav splitter by changing the subtitle setting to forced only.

afaik you can't load 2 subtitle at the same time. the "enable automatic forced subtitle stream" should be active to.

if you set a language there is a change it tries to load normal subtitle stream but can't load forced subs at the same time.
I'll play around some more and report back.
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I'll play around some more and report back.
Any thoughts on KCP vs the installation guide on page 1 of this thread?
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Hey, forgive the seemingly silly question...

I'm using MPC-HC x64 1.7.7 on default settings with my Yamaha AVR + HDTV. Bitstreaming works great for DTS/DD/HD formats.

My question is what happens when I play normal low res mp3's or higher res Flac files via MPC? On default settings, does mpc decode these files instead of AVR or are they also being passed thru to AVR for decode? I only see 'PCM in the AVR display when playing these
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Hey, forgive the seemingly silly question...

I'm using MPC-HC x64 1.7.7 on default settings with my Yamaha AVR + HDTV. Bitstreaming works great for DTS/DD/HD formats.

My question is what happens when I play normal low res mp3's or higher res Flac files via MPC? On default settings, does mpc decode these files instead of AVR or are they also being passed thru to AVR for decode? I only see 'PCM in the AVR display when playing these
PCM is what it is supposed to say for those files. What were you expecting it to say? PCM is basically two channel stereo.

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HTPC: z97 mobo, 16GB mem, i5-4440, SSD+HD, LG BD drive, Win 8.1 pro w/WMC + MB3.
Content sources: OTA Winegard HD7698P, Amazon Fire TV Stick, Netflix etc.
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PCM is what it is supposed to say for those files. What were you expecting it to say? PCM is basically two channel stereo.
Understood. Was just wondering if mp3 audio can also be 'bitstreamed' so to speak, to AVR to decode and play instead of being decoded/processed by pc? If so, how?
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it can be. but no ones will write a tool that can do this. this is just a waist of time there is nothing to gain from.
it's not like your or any AVR is better at this...
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Ah, ok. Re the quality, say, an mp3 played via a usb stick directly in the AVR versus mp3 played via my pc through the AVR would sound the same?

Wondering because when AVR manufacturers say they have for e.g an ESS Sabre DAC and/or 'compressed and low res music enhancer' etc (Yamaha Aventage 2040), does it make a diff?

Sorry again for the noob style questions, thanks in advance.
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Ah, ok. Re the quality, say, an mp3 played via a usb stick directly in the AVR versus mp3 played via my pc through the AVR would sound the same?

Wondering because when AVR manufacturers say they have for e.g an ESS Sabre DAC and/or 'compressed and low res music enhancer' etc (Yamaha Aventage 2040), does it make a diff?

Sorry again for the noob style questions, thanks in advance.
Great point. Here is the product sheet for the exact same DAC your AVR has as well as my new Pioneer VSX 1124.

Read the "overview" and you'll see that this DAC "accepts serial 16-24 bit serial PCM data to 192kHz sample rate" whieh leads me to believe that if we are seeing "PCM" on the AVR's screen than the DAC is doing its job. At least I hope that is what is happening.

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AVR: Pioneer VSX-1124-K.
Speakers/Sub: (4) NHT Classic Two and an NHT TwoC center + PSA-XV15 subwoofer.
HTPC: z97 mobo, 16GB mem, i5-4440, SSD+HD, LG BD drive, Win 8.1 pro w/WMC + MB3.
Content sources: OTA Winegard HD7698P, Amazon Fire TV Stick, Netflix etc.
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Great point. Here is the product sheet for the exact same DAC your AVR has as well as my new Pioneer VSX 1124.

Read the "overview" and you'll see that this DAC "accepts serial 16-24 bit serial PCM data to 192kHz sample rate" whieh leads me to believe that if we are seeing "PCM" on the AVR's screen than the DAC is doing its job. At least I hope that is what is happening.
Brilliant, thanks for that! Never occurred to me to check the ESS specs.
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Brilliant, thanks for that! Never occurred to me to check the ESS specs.
No problem... I just got my AVR a few days ago and have yet to really play around with it... I'm excited about the Sabre though to say the least.

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everything that's digital has to be converted to analog by a DAC. it doesn't matter if it's bitstreamend or not both are later feed as PCM to the same DAC. a DAC can't do anything with mp3 or DTS HD MA.
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everything that's digital has to be converted to analog by a DAC. it doesn't matter if it's bitstreamend or not both are later feed as PCM to the same DAC. a DAC can't do anything with mp3 or DTS HD MA.
Oh ok I didn't know that... so what converts MP3 and DTS-HD to analog if its not a DAC?

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HTPC: z97 mobo, 16GB mem, i5-4440, SSD+HD, LG BD drive, Win 8.1 pro w/WMC + MB3.
Content sources: OTA Winegard HD7698P, Amazon Fire TV Stick, Netflix etc.
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Oh ok I didn't know that... so what converts MP3 and DTS-HD to analog if its not a DAC?
a decoder to simple pcm. and that's the reason why it doesn't matter if you send 7.1 pcm or DTS HD MA to the AVR. as long as the decoder is bit perfect. all audio decoder in lavfilter are bit perfect that's not a must be for your AVR decoder.

see dynamic range compression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression
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