Originally Posted by gtgray
I just moved from a GT 545 to a GTS 450 on my main HTPC which is an i3 Clarkdsale, intel mainboard and intel SSD. Now I moved a Ceton out of my HTPC and put it in a dedicated Sandy Bridge. I can tell you the PC now does video much more smoothly, is it because the Ceton is off the bus, is it because the GTS 450 does the deinterlacing better.. and decodes faster I don't know, maybe all of the above. What I did not expect is that Live Digital Cable TV looks much more like it is was off my Tivo than what my Ceton has looked like. I believe that PC is using Cyberlink PD DVD 10 with Hardware deinterlacing.. Noticeably smoother. In JR Rvier I was watching one of my most challening MKVs.. from a DVD that the bit flags for film, movie are wrong. Anway, while the GTS 450 running LAV CUVID still gets the cadence wrong I am amazed at how much smoother it plays even playing it wrong. I have only ever seen one set top box get it right, clever deinterlacer in that one. My Iscan DUO can't get it right. I have the high end Toshiba HD DVD on a shelf somewhere, it could get it right, if you set it to film mode.... most even when set to a manual mode would jump to the wrong mode, I guess reading the flags.. definitely torture test. Lots of edges on bias to create a mess. Love the content though... between the bad edits, the wrongs flag and a color pallette that is super easy to turn muddy... it goes from totally unwatchable with poor playback to tolerable when it is done very well. It looks good on the GTS 450 with madVR.. Too bad LAV CUVID can't make sense out of the cadence and the flags either... still, it is the best I have ever seen it rendered off a PC.
I have to verify levels with the new GPU as they seem a bit off now, but it is just smoother, oh and it does madVR clearly better because I can make out lots of detail in test source material that I am very familiar. Text like lyrics on papers in front of musicians was readable for the first time in certain scenes. That was more than the subjective thing. Lots of little details that were previously not idenitfiable were clear as a bell.
I don't know the why's I can only report the observances. I really like the GT 545 as it was a quiet single slot Nvidia solution and the video looked much nicer than a GT 430 did running madVR in this same box.
So I started off with the Clarksdale iGPU then discovered madVR and moved to Nvidia. Don't get me wrong the Intel ideo has a nice look to it, it can't handle madVR and while a pain in some ways because it is not appliacable to WMC just produces video in another class from EVR. My display is pretty big, so improvements show.
Anway, I think the GTS 450 is as powerful a GPU as I am willing to go to at this time in an HTPC because I think the powerconsumption, noise and cost requirements for the more powerful GPUs start to reach the diminishing returns point for HTPC. I got the GTS 450 for $89. I was quite surprised that the EVGA GTS 450
was actually quieter than the EVGA GT 545. All in all it was a nice upgrade and I have a very good home in another HTPC client for the GT 545.
This is the exact same card I just gotten for my recent i5 build and I can hardly hear the fan at all. With that said...
I have been playing with JRMC for awhile and MPC-HC along with using it with WMC7. I'm trying to decide in what would be the best front end to use in this case. WMC doesn't support MKV files out the box without modification (needing Shark's codec pack to do so) and with all filters/decoders aside, so far I am pleased with how the LAV based filters work with each other in JRMC.
I would like to see how well these filters work with SD and older material. I don't have a very large display like some here have (I only have 40" Samsung) but I have a sizable amount of SD material that I would like to see how improved they would look with the LAV filters and MadVR. I even have some solid VHS material that I think may benefit from this too, I just havent had the chance to test it yet.
What about DVD's (after being converted to MKV since I know MadVR doesn't work with DVD folder structure)? Would these be upconverted with LAV and MadVR? Lots of questions but taking more time to discover the answers.
The main problem I am trying to work out a resolution for is that while I like the WMC+MB+MPC-HC combo and now just discovered this thread in setting up MPC-HC to use MadVR and LAV CUVID, I also like that JRMC automatically downloads these filters automatically, though I don't mind doing the configurations in MPC as I learn new things each time. Only downside with JRMC is the lack of Ceton support which forces me to use WMC for that. And I like JRMC for the audio capabilities to which WMC lacks. So now its the matter of deciding on one player to where I don't have to juggle between two MC's to play different material.
I wish I had some test video files that I can test on my new system to put it through its paces and to see how well it will do. With the i5 2500 (no 'K') and GTS450 I am certain this system should do pretty well.
For my needs, I don't aim to do alot of tinkering because otherwise I would never enjoy my HTPC but I would be wiling to do what's necessary to set things up to where I can be satisfied with and enjoy my media collection as it is. I only want to download and install the necessary software/filters for good performance to where I can keep my system clean software-wise.