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nullqwerty's Avatar nullqwerty 02:42 PM 12-27-2011
Hey folks,

I really want to hop on the CableCard bandwagon and ditch my Verizon-supplied DVR. Problem is, as far as I know, the only software that can view and record live TV of encrypted channels (using CableCards) is Windows Media Center, and I hate the Windows Media Center front end.

Is there anyway to use XBMC as a front-end to Windows Media Center? In other words, I don't care if behind the scenes to make it work XBMC uses Windows Media Center to get guide info and schedule recordings and watch live tv. As long as I don't see Windows Media Center, I'm happy. I just want it to appear as if I'm using XBMC to watch live tv and schedule recordings. How they accomplish it doesn't matter to me.

Are there any plug-ins to XBMC that do this?

Thanks!

kapone's Avatar kapone 02:49 PM 12-27-2011
No.
gaburko's Avatar gaburko 03:33 AM 12-28-2011
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Originally Posted by nullqwerty View Post

I hate the Windows Media Center front end.

Thats a pretty strong statement re what is probably the most unobtrusive front end.
nullqwerty's Avatar nullqwerty 06:37 AM 12-28-2011
To each his own I guess. Being unobtrusive is only one of many characteristics one could look for in an HTPC front-end and most other ones I look for WMC completely fails in. I've had it as my main interface for my HTPC for over a year now and overall am really disappointed with it (i.e. hate it). I wanted to love it (really wanted to), but alas I don't at all. I'd list out my complaints but there isn't much point. I'm moving on to XBMC which I guess officially puts the nail in the coffin for my hopes of using my htpc as a set-top box dvr replacement.

Hopefully one day there will be a second choice for a front-end you can use with cablecards and encrypted channels.
nullqwerty's Avatar nullqwerty 11:43 AM 12-28-2011
So, it looks like what I want to do is possible, with one exception...can't watch/record any channels not listed as Copy Freely.

Can someone confirm the following for me:

Setup:
HDHomeRun Prime with CableCard
MythTV
XBMC with Myth TV Plug-in
FIOS in MA (all channels marked as Copy Freely except Premiums and VOD)

Capabilities:
Watch and record Live TV for all channels except Premiums (HBO, etc) and VOD
Exclusively use XBMC as the Front-End software. Video showing it can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gA7Y...eature=related


Is this all true and correct?
pkscout's Avatar pkscout 02:54 PM 12-28-2011
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Originally Posted by nullqwerty View Post

Setup:
HDHomeRun Prime with CableCard
MythTV
XBMC with Myth TV Plug-in
FIOS in MA (all channels marked as Copy Freely except Premiums and VOD)

Capabilities:
Watch and record Live TV for all channels except Premiums (HBO, etc) and VOD
Exclusively use XBMC as the Front-End software.

I can't confirm that exact setup, but I know this works in general. I use SageTV to record stuff OTA and clear QAM (Time Warner Cable) and then a script called SAGETV-XBMC to move them into my XBMC library. The only time I have to go to SageTV is to setup recordings.
balky's Avatar balky 06:39 AM 12-29-2011
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Originally Posted by nullqwerty View Post

So, it looks like what I want to do is possible, with one exception...can't watch/record any channels not listed as Copy Freely.

Can someone confirm the following for me:

Setup:
HDHomeRun Prime with CableCard
MythTV
XBMC with Myth TV Plug-in
FIOS in MA (all channels marked as Copy Freely except Premiums and VOD)

Capabilities:
Watch and record Live TV for all channels except Premiums (HBO, etc) and VOD
Exclusively use XBMC as the Front-End software. Video showing it can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gA7Y...eature=related


Is this all true and correct?

I hope you're also prepared to have some fun... or does MythTV run stably on windows these days if it runs at all?
Or you might be linux savvy... don't know...

The fact that XBMC doesn't support HD audio bitstreaming is more than enough to keep me away from it...

A guy here on the forum somewhere said he installed XBMC nightly builds twice every week on four computers... that is definitely something I would rather not get into... even if it means putting up with 7MC...

To each his own like you put it...
pkscout's Avatar pkscout 06:53 AM 12-29-2011
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A guy here on the forum somewhere said he installed XBMC nightly builds twice every week on four computers... that is definitely something I would rather not get into... even if it means putting up with 7MC...

If someone is choosing to install the nightly builds (which are, in essence, alpha on a good day) that's his or her choice. I installed the stable version of 10.1 just under a year ago and haven't upgraded since. I've done more Windows updates in the last year than XBMC updates.
nullqwerty's Avatar nullqwerty 06:59 AM 12-29-2011
I just installed 11.0 beta 1 last night and was blown away. Man...XBMC has come really far in the last 2 years. It now blows Boxee away in my opinion.

Unfortunately though, I have a feeling that any attempt to get CableCard tuner access through it is going to leave me with limitations and headaches. It seems though that they have built LiveTV directly into XBMC with PVR functionality, but it's not stable yet and uses other programs as back ends (WMC Not being one of them).

But check out the new Version 11. It rocks! And you'd never know it was beta.
mike10778's Avatar mike10778 11:16 AM 12-29-2011
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Originally Posted by nullqwerty View Post

I just installed 11.0 beta 1 last night and was blown away. Man...XBMC has come really far in the last 2 years. It now blows Boxee away in my opinion.

But check out the new Version 11. It rocks! And you'd never know it was beta.

I agree---making leaps and bounds. I installed Eden the other night as well---runs very nicely - smooth and fast. Lots of possibilities, and I also have been using it more than Boxee too.
cburbs's Avatar cburbs 05:23 PM 12-29-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by nullqwerty View Post

So, it looks like what I want to do is possible, with one exception...can't watch/record any channels not listed as Copy Freely.

Can someone confirm the following for me:

Setup:
HDHomeRun Prime with CableCard
MythTV
XBMC with Myth TV Plug-in
FIOS in MA (all channels marked as Copy Freely except Premiums and VOD)

Capabilities:
Watch and record Live TV for all channels except Premiums (HBO, etc) and VOD
Exclusively use XBMC as the Front-End software. Video showing it can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gA7Y...eature=related


Is this all true and correct?


So you are thinking of this - http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=MythTV
nullqwerty's Avatar nullqwerty 01:30 PM 12-30-2011
Pretty close. Maybe the eventual future version of that. Unfortunately for that one you can't schedule recordings meaning you have to go back to MythTV to do that. One day though...
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