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boomhower's Avatar boomhower 05:03 AM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by nebulink View Post

give me my q, give me my echo! Where are you ceton? Fill this tv emptiness in my life.

Can you please give us an eta? Please!

Drama rant over.

Really looking forward to getting what ceton has to offer.

+1

cnewsgrp's Avatar cnewsgrp 08:04 AM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by nebulink View Post

Give me my Q, give me my echo! Where are you Ceton? Fill this tv emptiness in my life.

Can you please give us an ETA? PLEASE!

Drama rant over.

Really looking forward to getting what Ceton has to offer.

Eric:
Yesterday my XBox 360 went blank - No Audio/Video. After doing research I learn't that this is a known issue. Temp fix is this and more permanent fix is to heatgun GPU with removing X Clamps. This is due to bad soldering of GPU on board. For me the towel trick worked and I think I am good for few days or weeks.

You might all think why I am posting this is Ceton Echo section. The reason is simple, I have two such XBoxes and my wife and friends laugh when I do the "Towel Trick". Microsoft should be ashamed making such low quality stuff. I can't wait till Ceton is released . You have thousands of customers like me who will do the same.

Forget all the fluff, just ensure that
1) Quality is good. I believe this is your job Resist pressure from sales weasels to release it "early" or be first to market. You already are ahead of the game.
2) It does its primary job well (Live TV)
3) You price it well. I will buy it on day 1 if you price it 129 or under

If you meet all three then you have a winner.
slowbiscuit 10:37 AM 03-09-2012
Um, the Xbox problem was fixed a couple of years ago when the Jasper models were released. You must have an older box. Agree that it was a bad deal with the old boxes, but you'd be much better served with the Xbox Slim (quieter, draws less power, much more reliable). Sell your old ones on craigslist while they still work, or trade them in at gamestop etc. for Slims if you want to keep them as an extender and game machine.
kcr6419's Avatar kcr6419 11:26 AM 03-09-2012
Shoot...I'll have to be under $99. I'm thinking more like $79 before I'd buy one.
cnewsgrp's Avatar cnewsgrp 12:29 PM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Um, the Xbox problem was fixed a couple of years ago when the Jasper models were released. You must have an older box. Agree that it was a bad deal with the old boxes, but you'd be much better served with the Xbox Slim (quieter, draws less power, much more reliable). Sell your old ones on craigslist while they still work, or trade them in at gamestop etc. for Slims if you want to keep them as an extender and game machine.

Yup. These are older boxes. I already traded one for Slim. I am waiting for Echo and will trade in the other two. I just wanted to highlight to Eric was to focus on quality and price and Ceton has a winner.
cnewsgrp's Avatar cnewsgrp 12:32 PM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by kcr6419 View Post

Shoot...I'll have to be under $99. I'm thinking more like $79 before I'd buy one.

You are right. I would buy XBox Slim if it was 199. I would go for 129
erickotz's Avatar erickotz 01:18 PM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by cnewsgrp View Post

Forget all the fluff, just ensure that
1) Quality is good. I believe this is your job Resist pressure from sales weasels to release it "early" or be first to market. You already are ahead of the game.
2) It does its primary job well (Live TV)
3) You price it well. I will buy it on day 1 if you price it 129 or under

If you meet all three then you have a winner.

1. That's the goal
2. Again, important goal
3. Can't comment
cnewsgrp's Avatar cnewsgrp 02:14 PM 03-09-2012
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

1. That's the goal
2. Again, important goal
3. Can't comment

Haha. I thought I might get price out somehow. Worth a shot.
cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 09:12 AM 03-10-2012
Can you at least say if the Echo will be under $600? Throw us a bone to at least make us feel like we got a win.
gsr's Avatar gsr 09:18 AM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Can you at least say if the Echo will be under $600? Throw us a bone to at least make us feel like we got a win.

He's already said the target is to make the pricing of the Echo competitive with the XBOX, so that has to put it well under $600. So I think he can comfortably say yes as an answer to your question without giving anything away .
xcrunner529's Avatar xcrunner529 10:12 AM 03-10-2012
My 360 just got the RRoD and is the older model out of warranty. I knew I was pushing it forcing it into an extender role Hurry up Ceton!!
TimA's Avatar TimA 10:17 AM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by smcmillan2 View Post

Agreed. Just saw the "official" product listing on the Ceton site a couple of days ago and immediately thought of a project I've had in mind for a few years now.

I'm a college football nut. I currently have season tickets for my favorite team's home games, but for away game Saturdays I'm watching the ESPNs and whatever networks are airing games all day into the wee hours of Sundays. Lots of flipping between channels.

With the Echo I'm envisioning what I fondly refer to as "The Wall", something I almost have my wife agreeing to. The 61" screen in the middle, with 3 (or more) 27 - 32" screens across the top of that. An Echo attached to each of those showing the different games and I'm in hog-heaven, except for the obvious issue of controlling those screens independently. I believe this would require the ability to set each Echo to a different carrier frequency for the remote (otherwise a single button press affects all of the units), but I'm no expert on this subject.

Just dreaming out loud. Back to reality...

This guy did it, but he controls his extenders through an application using TCP/IP. Pretty cool.

http://www.hdhomesportsbar.com/

Tim
erickotz's Avatar erickotz 10:35 AM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Can you at least say if the Echo will be under $600? Throw us a bone to at least make us feel like we got a win.

$1 < Price of Echo < Price of Q < 1 Trillion Dollars
flavius99's Avatar flavius99 10:49 AM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

$1 < Price of Echo < Price of Q < 1 Trillion Dollars

$1 < Price of Echo < Price of Q < $1000?
tgrinch's Avatar tgrinch 01:34 PM 03-10-2012
I thought we narrowed it down to something like: Echo < Xbox360
kcr6419's Avatar kcr6419 01:38 PM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by TimA View Post

This guy did it, but he controls his extenders through an application using TCP/IP. Pretty cool.

http://www.hdhomesportsbar.com/

Tim

Pretty cool. Now I don't have to write my own. Works nicely.
cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 10:45 PM 03-10-2012
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

$1 < Price of Echo < Price of Q < 1 Trillion Dollars

Nice! So it will be cheaper than the failed stimulous package!
erickotz's Avatar erickotz 12:07 AM 03-11-2012
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Nice! So it will be cheaper than the failed stimulous package!

Yeah, but the accessories will be another few trillion dollars
cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 09:57 AM 03-11-2012
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Yeah, but the accessories will be another few trillion dollars

Darn. I have a pile of stimulous money sitting around, but only about $300 billion.
tmrobert's Avatar tmrobert 07:31 AM 03-12-2012
Eric,

One quick question - will it also share it's tuners like infinitv? I'd love to have echo/q combos for the tvs and be able to watch on my desktop as well...

Thanks,
Tim

BTW - can't wait for this!
erickotz's Avatar erickotz 12:19 PM 03-12-2012
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Originally Posted by tmrobert View Post

Eric,

One quick question - will it also share it's tuners like infinitv? I'd love to have echo/q combos for the tvs and be able to watch on my desktop as well...

Thanks,
Tim

BTW - can't wait for this!

Echo is only an extender; It has no tuners.
tmrobert's Avatar tmrobert 01:49 PM 03-12-2012
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

Echo is only an extender; It has no tuners.

Sorry I wasn't clear - I meant if the Q can share out it's tuners...
potts.mike's Avatar potts.mike 09:04 AM 03-13-2012
I just wanted to say that my htpc crapped out last week. I'd love to by 2 echos and a q to replace the htpc and two Tivos.
lfilomeno's Avatar lfilomeno 09:55 AM 03-13-2012
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Um, the Xbox problem was fixed a couple of years ago when the Jasper models were released. You must have an older box. Agree that it was a bad deal with the old boxes, but you'd be much better served with the Xbox Slim (quieter, draws less power, much more reliable). Sell your old ones on craigslist while they still work, or trade them in at gamestop etc. for Slims if you want to keep them as an extender and game machine.

Slowbiscuit: While it is true that the newer, slimmer models of the XBOX are quieter, better designed, and draw less power, they are designed to be a gaming console and not a Media Center Extender. Just buying a new XBOX to be use as an extender is not cost effective (at least to me). I am working with SageTV and have 4 extenders. I have not moved to MCE due to their innability to offer a real extender. CETON might change all that.
slowbiscuit 05:40 AM 03-14-2012
Not cost effective? They only cost $150 on sale, which is probably what the Echo will cost. I'm not following you.

If you want cheap extenders, the Linksys DMA-2100 can still be found on fleabay for $100 or less. I have one, it works. Not as well as the Xbox, but it's good enough after you disable menu transitions on it.

I wouldn't swap out a Sage setup for MCE with 4 extenders either, but cost shouldn't deter folks new to MCE from getting extenders. Ceton will probably be a much better solution when it comes out, I'll grant you.
gustovier's Avatar gustovier 07:02 AM 03-14-2012
Man I get a little sad every day when I think about how google came and bought sagetv. They won't give updates on what's happening which is even worse. I wish more people would have realized how much better sagetv was than MCE in every regard (except play ready support for cable card premium channels). I really think it came Down to the default UI.
gsr's Avatar gsr 07:19 AM 03-14-2012
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Originally Posted by gustovier View Post

Man I get a little sad every day when I think about how google came and bought sagetv. They won't give updates on what's happening which is even worse. I wish more people would have realized how much better sagetv was than MCE in every regard (except play ready support for cable card premium channels). I really think it came Down to the default UI.

If more people had used SageTV, that might have just accelerated the purchase by Google. But for me (and I'm sure just about everyone posting in this thread), support for CableCard channels is a must-have feature, so SageTV wasn't really an option for us.
cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 08:00 AM 03-14-2012
I never saw a reason to buy something I already had for free.
lfilomeno's Avatar lfilomeno 11:02 AM 03-14-2012
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Not cost effective? They only cost $150 on sale, which is probably what the Echo will cost. I'm not following you.

If you want cheap extenders, the Linksys DMA-2100 can still be found on fleabay for $100 or less. I have one, it works. Not as well as the Xbox, but it's good enough after you disable menu transitions on it.

I wouldn't swap out a Sage setup for MCE with 4 extenders either, but cost shouldn't deter folks new to MCE from getting extenders. Ceton will probably be a much better solution when it comes out, I'll grant you.

Got your point but mines is $150 times 4 is $600 worht of extenders without shipping! I can have the wife going nuts over this and making my media center experience miserable! I truly believe CETON will deliver with their extenders. The WMC restrictions to people overseas (I am in Puerto Rico) is what got me thinking about really switching over. I am very happy after I cut the cord and access content online without restrictions with Sage. Maybe if someone knows and wants to share a trick or two on how to avoid this annoying content restriction will make me do the jump.
cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 12:43 PM 03-14-2012
You guys shold vote to become a state, then you are no longer overseas.
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