excellent news. I really thought Ceton might do something like this as a way to continue to add value to the platform.
Minimum System Requirements:
Display with HDMI input
Wired Ethernet network
PC with Microsoft® Windows® 7 with Media Center. A PC with a TV tuner is required for TV and DVR features.
Tech Specs:
Size: 3.9" x 0.8" x 4.3"
Power Consumption: less than 5 watts
Outputs: HDMI, Optical Digital Audio (TOSLINK)
Other Connectors: USB 2.0, Mini USB (for power)
Network: Ethernet (10/100/1000)
Audio formats supported: Dolby Digital AC-3, MP3, PCM, WMA, WMA Pro
Photo formats supported: BMP, GIF, JPG, PNG, TIF
Video formats supported: MPEG-1, MPEG-2, H.264, WMV9
Included in the Box:
Ceton Echo
Remote control
USB power cable (2 m/6.5 ft.) and adapter
HDMI cable (1.5 m/5 ft.)
Ethernet cable (1.5 m/5 ft.)
Quick Start Guide
Warranty:
1-year limited warranty
[edit] - since they are creating two distinct products, I thought I would change the thread title to focus on the Echo extender and create another thread specific to the Q DVR box based on Windows 7 Embedded.
When using a USB ir receiver is there a way to turn off the internal ir receiver? Also when using a USB ir receiver does the remote still act goofy with button presses? (Like double presses and such)
Can I jump in with a quick question? Our Echo is in a loft above the same room with the HTPC, no walls etc. Use a Harmony 990 for the HTPC, but want to get a Harmony Remote (650 or a refirb 990) to use on the Echo. Any chance we are going to have signal conflicts? The Echo's Harmony will first turn on the same brand of TV (Sony) as the HTPC, then switch inputs over to the Ceton's, then all commands will run in the Ceton's WMC. The HTPC's WMC programming into the 990 was done via an Ortek remote and uses its USB dongle.
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Can I jump in with a quick question? Our Echo is in a loft above the same room with the HTPC, no walls etc. Use a Harmony 990 for the HTPC, but want to get a Harmony Remote (650 or a refirb 990) to use on the Echo. Any chance we are going to have signal conflicts? The Echo's Harmony will first turn on the same brand of TV (Sony) as the HTPC, then switch inputs over to the Ceton's, then all commands will run in the Ceton's WMC. The HTPC's WMC programming into the 990 was done via an Ortek remote and uses its USB dongle.
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When using a USB ir receiver is there a way to turn off the internal ir receiver? Also when using a USB ir receiver does the remote still act goofy with button presses? (Like double presses and such)
An RF remote should be less likely to cause issues than an IR remote in such a situation. The RF remote will send signals to a small box that then has IR emitters that attach to the devices you want to control. That should make it far less likely to accidentally control devices in the other area in the open space that sgbroimp asked about. The IR versions of the Harmony remotes send out a pretty strong IR signal, which would have a lot more potential to control both TV's, etc. at the same time.
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You may also like to take a look here for more information about changing the IR codeset for the echo and/or HTPC.
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An RF remote should be less likely to cause issues than an IR remote in such a situation. The RF remote will send signals to a small box that then has IR emitters that attach to the devices you want to control. That should make it far less likely to accidentally control devices in the other area in the open space that sgbroimp asked about. The IR versions of the Harmony remotes send out a pretty strong IR signal, which would have a lot more potential to control both TV's, etc. at the same time.
If an RF remote is used in both locations using the RF to IR repeater, yes it will cause problems. If the IR repeater is not used in one of the locations, you might as well go with an IR remote in that location. The IR signal will not get through the wall to the other room so IMHO it is less likely to cause the problems with which the OP is concerned.
I moved the Echo to another room this morning and connected it directly to the router. I'm not having any trouble with it today. Maybe my trouble was network related.
My bad. The unit is an 880 and I appreciate your inputs all. I guess if I am having no conflicts now and just copy the echo commands into it (as learned or raw) I should not have a conflict after I do that, right? I mean, I will try using s standard command set first of course....
Unless there's a way to pair the remote to the RF to IR repeater, that would be true. I'm not familiar enough with the Harmony line to know if they pair them or not - if not, that would be a pretty major oversight as it could cause lots of issues for neighbors in apartment buildings if more than one is using a Harmony with RF.
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If the IR repeater is not used in one of the locations, you might as well go with an IR remote in that location. The IR signal will not get through the wall to the other room so IMHO it is less likely to cause the problems with which the OP is concerned.
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Unless there's a way to pair the remote to the RF to IR repeater, that would be true. I'm not familiar enough with the Harmony line to know if they pair them or not - if not, that would be a pretty major oversight as it could cause lots of issues for neighbors in apartment buildings if more than one is using a Harmony with RF.
There are three actaully, the main IR repeater and two smaller IR repeaters that can be isolated to a piece of equipment. I have not bothered to do this with mh H-900 because I haven't had to.
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He said that there isn't a wall separating the 2 areas:
So stray IR commands could definitely cause issues for him depending on how the equipment is situated in the 2 areas.
My bad. I thought he said there was a wall. Yeah, in that scenrio an IR remote could cause problems if the signal is bouncing off the ceiling or something and gets picked up in the adjacent space.
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Sent back my products yesterday. The Echo and Infini4. I'm deciding to give up on cable altogether. Time Warner just can't support CableCard and I was having issue after issue with them. Sorry Ceton, loved the idea behind the products. However, when you are dependent on a company as inept as TWC you are going to lose out. I'm going to keep following this thread as I look to cut the cord completely and go straight OTA. If the Echo ever gets close to the 360, I may certainly revisit it for future needs.
Did you open a support ticket with us? Please PM me your ticket number. TWC does most certainly support CableCARD. We have thousands and thousands of customers using the InfiniTV on TWC, including myself
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My bad. The unit is an 880 and I appreciate your inputs all. I guess if I am having no conflicts now and just copy the echo commands into it (as learned or raw) I should not have a conflict after I do that, right? I mean, I will try using s standard command set first of course....
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Originally Posted by BenJF3 /t/1386351/official-ceton-echo-extender-info-thread/5460#post_22909441
Sent back my products yesterday. The Echo and Infini4. I'm deciding to give up on cable altogether. Time Warner just can't support CableCard and I was having issue after issue with them. Sorry Ceton, loved the idea behind the products. However, when you are dependent on a company as inept as TWC you are going to lose out. I'm going to keep following this thread as I look to cut the cord completely and go straight OTA. If the Echo ever gets close to the 360, I may certainly revisit it for future needs.
I tried that for a bit but never actually cut the cord as I could see losing content I enjoy. Using a tuner and extender saves me a boatload of money though.
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There are three actaully, the main IR repeater and two smaller IR repeaters that can be isolated to a piece of equipment. I have not bothered to do this with mh H-900 because I haven't had to.
I'm not completely ignorant of the Harmony line as I had actually setup a Harmony 900 for my parents a few years ago, but they ran into problems with it (it locked up at irregular intervals, which required removing the battery to reboot the remote each time, which killed the MAF (mom acceptance factor)) and I ended up replacing it with some spare Crestron gear I had around and they haven't had a single issue since. And I know that the RF to IR repeater comes with additional mini IR emitters that connect to the main blaster and can be moved near other equipment in the cabinet that the main blaster can't reach. But the main blaster is the piece that contains the RF receiver, the mini blasters are just IR blasters that get their signals from the main blaster.
But my point was that I wasn't not sure if the "IR blaster" as it is referred to on the Harmony site gets paired to the remote it's used with such that it will ignore commands from other Harmony remotes that it hasn't been paired with. If this pairing happens, then using 2 RF Harmony remotes in the same house won't be a problem as the blaster will ignore commands from any remotes it isn't paired with. If there is no such pairing, then that would be an extremely stupid design choice by the Harmony designers. It should be obvious that if the product has a (claimed, up to) 100 foot range there's lots of potential for people living in houses that are close together or apartment buildings to run into conflicts where they end up controlling each others' equipment.
I just did some searching and found that the IR blaster is, indeed, paired to a single remote at any given time. So if 2 RF Harmony remotes are used in the same home, they shouldn't interfere with each other.
Thanks! That TGB cite looks very interesting and helpful and could solve the issue for me if I run into it. Much obliged! Separately, I have an Ortek WMC remote I tried to use on the Echo (using its usb dongle) after I got the Echo in October and that failed (Someone told me wrong protocol). Does changing to one of the alternate codes solve that issue by any chance? Probably not, right?
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Thanks! That TGB cite looks very interesting and helpful and could solve the issue for me if I run into it. Much obliged! Separately, I have an Ortek WMC remote I tried to use on the Echo (using its usb dongle) after I got the Echo in October and that failed (Someone told me wrong protocol). Does changing to one of the alternate codes solve that issue by any chance? Probably not, right?
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp /t/1386351/official-ceton-echo-extender-info-thread/5460#post_22909984
My bad. The unit is an 880 and I appreciate your inputs all. I guess if I am having no conflicts now and just copy the echo commands into it (as learned or raw) I should not have a conflict after I do that, right? I mean, I will try using s standard command set first of course....
I use a Harmony 880 at home, including on the Echo, with no issues (well, I used to...I seem to have misplaced it, and for the life of me can't find it, so I may be buying a new Harmony soon)
I did notice this last night but it was very brief. I'm not sure if it is my HDHR Prime or maybe even the signal from Charter but I haven't noticed on my HTPC which probably points to the echo.
I just used the Microsoft/WMC PC profile with Echo (Logitech has been useless about getting Echo added). I've been all through the couch, and everywhere I can think of, with still no luck. It has to be in the house, but damned if I know where.
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I just used the Microsoft/WMC PC profile with Echo (Logitech has been useless about getting Echo added). I've been all through the couch, and everywhere I can think of, with still no luck. It has to be in the house, but damned if I know where.
Be sure to interrogate your pets. We once had a Siamese cat that took my aunt's wallet out of her handbag. She was two hours away at a Mass Pike gas station when she discovered the problem! Another time he took a watch up a floor and hid it.
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I use a Harmony 880 at home, including on the Echo, with no issues (well, I used to...I seem to have misplaced it, and for the life of me can't find it, so I may be buying a new Harmony soon)
I lost a remote once. I found it several days later in the freezer. Cocktails were involved.
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