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post #1 of 21 Old 02-15-2012, 07:03 PM - Thread Starter
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It took a long time for me to compile the results (over 3 hours) but here are the results of the poll. We had a lot of people answer the poll.

Thanks for everyone that contributed.

Most common answer in bold:

1. What operating system do you use? [n=88]
a. Windows 7 32 bit (21)
b. Windows 7 64 bit (62) [70%]
c. Windows XP (4)
d. Mac OS (1)
e. Linux
f. Other

2. What platform do you prefer [n=82]?
a. AMD CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Llano with 3D capability) (8)
bb. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (23) [28%]

b. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Sandy Bridge with 3D) (15)

c. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Sandy Bridge without 3D) (8)

d. AMD CPU with discrete ATI graphics card (9)
e. AMD CPU with discrete NVidia graphics card (5)
f. Intel CPU with discrete ATI graphics card (22) [27%]
g. Intel CPU with discrete NVidia graphics card (12)
h. Other AMD (2)
i. Other Intel
j. No preference (1)

3. How much RAM do you use [n=88]?
a. 1GB
b. 2GB (9)
c. 4GB (54) [61%]
d. 8GB (18)
e. 16GB (4)
f. 32GB
g. 1.5GB (1)
h. 3GB (1)
i. 6GB (1)

4. Do you use a SSD for your OS [n=85]?
a. Yes, SATAII (26)
b. Yes, SATAIII (15)
c. No (44) [51%]

5. How much storage do you have internally in your main HTPC [n=91]?
a. 30-64GB for OS mainly (13)
b. 64-500GB (16) [18%]
c. 500GB - 1TB (11)
d. 1TB - 2TB (16) [18%]
e. 2TB - 3TB (14)
f. 3TB - 4TB (3)
g. More than 4TB (17) [19%]
h. 14.5GB (1)

6. How much storage do you have connected via your network, server or NAS to your main HTPC [n=80]?
a. 80-500GB
b. 500GB - 1TB (1)
c. 1TB - 2TB (7)
d. 2TB - 3TB (7)
e. 3TB - 4TB (6)
f. 4TB - 8TB (16)
g. 8TB - 12TB (6)
h. 12TB - 20TB (6)
i. 20TB - 30TB (7)
j. More than 30TB (4)
k. None (20) [25%]

7. What do you use as your front end (more than one answer is allowed for this question) [n=118]
a. WMC (28) [24%]
b. WMC + Media Browser (36) [30%]

c. XBMC (11)
d. Plex (2)
e. JRiver (7)
f. My Movies (3)
g. Media Portal (4)
h. MPC-HC (13)
i. Other (6)
j. Sage (3)
k. PowerDVD (1)
l. Boxee (1)
m. Roku (1)
n. VLC (1)
o. TMT5/PDVD11/WMP (1)

8. Is bitstreaming HD Audio important to you [n=85]?
a. Yes (52) [61%]
b. No (33)

9. What size HTPC do you use [n=87]?
a. Mini-ITX (15)
b. Micro-ATX (42) [48%]
c. Full ATX (27)
d. Tower (1)
e. Rackmount (2)

10. Do you have an optical drive in your main HTPC [n=87]?
a. Yes, bluray (52) [60%]
b. Yes, DVD (26)
c. No (9)

11. How is your HTPC connected to your network/internet [n=86]?
a. Wired (75) [87%]
b. USB Wireless (6)
c. PCI/PCI-e Wireless (5)
d. Its not connected

12. How large is your PSU [n=84]?
a. 60-80 watts (1)
b. 80-120 watts (6)
c. 120-380 watts (25) [30%]
d. 380-450 watts (24) [29%]

e. 450-600 watts (18)
f. More than 600 watts (10)

13. Do you use your HTPC as a DVR [n=84]?
a. Yes, with a cablecard device (19)
b. Yes, with a OTA tuner device (37) [44%]
c. No (24)
d. Yes, other (4)

14. What was the total cost of the hardware (excluding the OS) for your main HTPC [n=85]?
a. $300 or less (4)
b. $300 - $400 (9)
c. $400 - $500 (15)
d. $500 - $600 (16)
e. $600 - $800 (16)
f. $800 - $1000 (9)
g. $1000 - $1500 (7)
h. More than $1500 (9)

15. Do you do gaming on your HTPC [n=81]?
a. Yes, emulator (non-intensive graphics) gaming only (8)
b. Yes, including modern intensive graphics gaming (10)
c. No, none at all (63) [74%]

16. How long do you expect that your HTPC hardware will remain "usable" and "upgradeable"?
a. 1-2 years (12)
b. 2-3 years (21)
c. 3-4 years (20)
d. 4-5 years (17)
e. 5-10 years (12)

My conclusion...

The average HTPC at AVS looks like the following...

Windows 7 64 bit OS
Intel with Integrated GPU or Intel+ATI
4GB RAM
No SSD
Anywhere from 64GB up to >4TB internally
Anywhere from Zero to 8TB of Networked storage
Running WMC or WMC+Media Browser as the frontend
Streaming HD Audio
Micro-ATX in size
Bluray drive
Wired network
120-450 watt PSU
OTA tuner device
$400-$800 in price
No gaming at all
Life expectancy of 2-5 years

BTW --- Someone else can do this the next time or find a better way. No way I am ever doing this again.
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post #2 of 21 Old 02-15-2012, 07:19 PM
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Interesting... I guess I missed that poll. My 4 year old HTPC is comparable to the poll results, still running strong. Using it as a server to my new (Assassin approved) HTPC in the theater room now.
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Thanks for the bump. I'm slightly out of the average as I have no blu-ray drive in my HTPC. It is in my PC so I can comfortably rip my BD's at my desk. I have an SSD But no optical drive in my HTPC and have more storage space than average.

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BTW --- Someone else can do this the next time or find a better way. No way I am ever doing this again.

Thanks for the results. Looking forward to the Q2 survey
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Interesting stuff assassin - but have those users chosen ATI cards because it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt, that they provide a superior picture to the rest.
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This would be easy to compile if the minds could agree on the questions.
I think Demographics would be cool to see as well. When I say demographics, I'm talking about race, income level, do you have paytv available and do you use it. etc. etc. etc.

Who is building/buying what and why so to speak.


I'm an analyst by trade and do this all day. The initial set up could be a pain BUT the resulting Pivot tables and Charts would rock and you would be able to break them down in damn near any fashion you wanted.


(This is not to be misinterpreted as an outright volunteer action on my part talk to me closer to "go time.")

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This would be easy to compile if the minds could agree on the questions.
I think Demographics would be cool to see as well. When I say demographics, I'm talking about race, income level, do you have paytv available and do you use it. etc. etc. etc.

Who is building/buying what and why so to speak.


I'm an analyst by trade and do this all day. The initial set up could be a pain BUT the resulting Pivot tables and Charts would rock and you would be able to break them down in damn near any fashion you wanted.


(This is not to be misinterpreted as an outright volunteer action on my part talk to me closer to "go time.")

Sounds great. I will send you a PM in a few months and we can do this again.

No way I am ever doing this again by hand.
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Interesting stuff assassin - but have those users chosen ATI cards because it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt, that they provide a superior picture to the rest.

Ha! Hilarious!
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For multiple choice questions like this, it is pretty easy to setup a Google Doc Spreadsheet with a web form frontend. The results are automatically saved into the spreadsheet so it is easy to manipulate.
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I'd say the SSD option will increase for two reason. One reason is that HDD are high and SSD prices are becoming reasonable. Another reason is that once you try a SSD you'll want them in all your PCs (as a boot OS drive).

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Interesting results (sorry for bumping the original thread, I hadn't seen this one). I'm a bit surprised to see how unpopular MyMovies is. I love it.

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Nice job.

Lots of work to confirm something you probably could guess accurately.

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Just a bump - too much work went into this to languish.
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Looking forward to an updated poll if its worthwhile. My current HTPC closely matches the average AVS HTPC. I'm certain that the SSD percentage has gone up more than any other number (save maybe RAM) since the original poll.
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

It took a long time for me to compile the results (over 3 hours) but here are the results of the poll. We had a lot of people answer the poll.


Thanks for everyone that contributed.


Most common answer in bold:

1. What operating system do you use? [n=88]

a. Windows 7 32 bit (21)
b. Windows 7 64 bit (62) [70%]

c. Windows XP (4)

d. Mac OS (1)

e. Linux

f. Other

2. What platform do you prefer [n=82]?

a. AMD CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Llano with 3D capability) (8)
bb. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (23) [28%]

b. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Sandy Bridge with 3D) (15)


c. Intel CPU with integrated GPU (i.e. Sandy Bridge without 3D) (8)

d. AMD CPU with discrete ATI graphics card (9)

e. AMD CPU with discrete NVidia graphics card (5)
f. Intel CPU with discrete ATI graphics card (22) [27%]

g. Intel CPU with discrete NVidia graphics card (12)

h. Other AMD (2)

i. Other Intel

j. No preference (1)

3. How much RAM do you use [n=88]?

a. 1GB

b. 2GB (9)
c. 4GB (54) [61%]

d. 8GB (18)

e. 16GB (4)

f. 32GB

g. 1.5GB (1)

h. 3GB (1)

i. 6GB (1)

4. Do you use a SSD for your OS [n=85]?

a. Yes, SATAII (26)

b. Yes, SATAIII (15)
c. No (44) [51%]

5. How much storage do you have internally in your main HTPC [n=91]?

a. 30-64GB for OS mainly (13)
b. 64-500GB (16) [18%]

c. 500GB - 1TB (11)
d. 1TB - 2TB (16) [18%]

e. 2TB - 3TB (14)

f. 3TB - 4TB (3)
g. More than 4TB (17) [19%]

h. 14.5GB (1)

6. How much storage do you have connected via your network, server or NAS to your main HTPC [n=80]?

a. 80-500GB

b. 500GB - 1TB (1)

c. 1TB - 2TB (7)

d. 2TB - 3TB (7)

e. 3TB - 4TB (6)

f. 4TB - 8TB (16)

g. 8TB - 12TB (6)

h. 12TB - 20TB (6)

i. 20TB - 30TB (7)

j. More than 30TB (4)
k. None (20) [25%]

7. What do you use as your front end (more than one answer is allowed for this question) [n=118]
a. WMC (28) [24%]

b. WMC + Media Browser (36) [30%]


c. XBMC (11)

d. Plex (2)

e. JRiver (7)

f. My Movies (3)

g. Media Portal (4)

h. MPC-HC (13)

i. Other (6)

j. Sage (3)

k. PowerDVD (1)

l. Boxee (1)

m. Roku (1)

n. VLC (1)

o. TMT5/PDVD11/WMP (1)

8. Is bitstreaming HD Audio important to you [n=85]?
a. Yes (52) [61%]

b. No (33)

9. What size HTPC do you use [n=87]?

a. Mini-ITX (15)
b. Micro-ATX (42) [48%]

c. Full ATX (27)

d. Tower (1)

e. Rackmount (2)

10. Do you have an optical drive in your main HTPC [n=87]?
a. Yes, bluray (52) [60%]

b. Yes, DVD (26)

c. No (9)

11. How is your HTPC connected to your network/internet [n=86]?
a. Wired (75) [87%]

b. USB Wireless (6)

c. PCI/PCI-e Wireless (5)

d. Its not connected

12. How large is your PSU [n=84]?

a. 60-80 watts (1)

b. 80-120 watts (6)
c. 120-380 watts (25) [30%]

d. 380-450 watts (24) [29%]


e. 450-600 watts (18)

f. More than 600 watts (10)

13. Do you use your HTPC as a DVR [n=84]?

a. Yes, with a cablecard device (19)
b. Yes, with a OTA tuner device (37) [44%]

c. No (24)

d. Yes, other (4)

14. What was the total cost of the hardware (excluding the OS) for your main HTPC [n=85]?

a. $300 or less (4)

b. $300 - $400 (9)

c. $400 - $500 (15)

d. $500 - $600 (16)

e. $600 - $800 (16)

f. $800 - $1000 (9)

g. $1000 - $1500 (7)

h. More than $1500 (9)

15. Do you do gaming on your HTPC [n=81]?

a. Yes, emulator (non-intensive graphics) gaming only (8)

b. Yes, including modern intensive graphics gaming (10)
c. No, none at all (63) [74%]

16. How long do you expect that your HTPC hardware will remain "usable" and "upgradeable"?

a. 1-2 years (12)

b. 2-3 years (21)

c. 3-4 years (20)

d. 4-5 years (17)

e. 5-10 years (12)


My conclusion...


The average HTPC at AVS looks like the following...


Windows 7 64 bit OS

Intel with Integrated GPU or Intel+ATI

4GB RAM

No SSD

Anywhere from 64GB up to >4TB internally

Anywhere from Zero to 8TB of Networked storage

Running WMC or WMC+Media Browser as the frontend

Streaming HD Audio

Micro-ATX in size

Bluray drive

Wired network

120-450 watt PSU

OTA tuner device

$400-$800 in price

No gaming at all

Life expectancy of 2-5 years


BTW --- Someone else can do this the next time or find a better way. No way I am ever doing this again.


It would be interesting to do this again and see how much it has changed

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I also would be interested.
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"It would be interesting to do this again and see how much it has changed"

Given that almost 80% of respondents expect their HTPCs to last at least 2-3 years or longer. It would be premature even now except for SSD usage. That would certainly be much higher.
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Wouldn't it be possible to repeat this using some automated software like Polldaddy?
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"It would be interesting to do this again and see how much it has changed"

Given that almost 80% of respondents expect their HTPCs to last at least 2-3 years or longer. It would be premature even now except for SSD usage. That would certainly be much higher.

I doubt all those people are even on the forums anymore.

There is some regulars... and the rest are just passing through.

This would be interesting question to ask. How long been in HTPC? Did you participate in previous poll ?

Lol. That would be interesting to see.

I actually have a new HTPC since then wink.gif

No more optical drives at all. Smaller PSU. New front end.

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Would it really matter if the same participants took it? If it were limited to those current AVS members whom could be bothered to reply, it would be an interesting snapshot of this year, and could be compared to last years etc if were run annually.
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