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Sat down to view the BD version of "Twilight: Breaking Dawn" I'd purchased at a retail establishment. After the previews were over, the disc tossed up a message on the screen that said something to the effect that it found ripping software on my computer and, therefore, wasn't gong to play. That was it. Done. No menus, nothing.

I shut down AnyDVD and tried to re-start the movie, but nothing doing. PDVD 9 won't go past the splash screen, now. And it tells me I might need an update to play the movie. Clicking "yes" or "cancel" does nothing. Just disabling AnyDVD versus exiting the program also does nothing. PDVD won't run, now.

Going down to my theater shortly to see what the damage is and figure out how to fix it.

Thanks, Hollywood. I had no plans to rip/copy your movie. Now I'm out $22 for nothing.

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Sat down to view the BD version of "Twilight: Breaking Dawn" I'd purchased at a retail establishment. After the previews were over, the disc tossed up a message on the screen that said something to the effect that it found ripping software on my computer and, therefore, wasn't gong to play. That was it. Done. No menus, nothing.

I shut down AnyDVD and tried to re-start the movie, but nothing doing. PDVD 9 won't go past the splash screen, now. And it tells me I might need an update to play the movie. Clicking "yes" or "cancel" does nothing. Just disabling AnyDVD versus exiting the program also does nothing. PDVD won't run, now.

Going down to my theater shortly to see what the damage is and figure out how to fix it.

Thanks, Hollywood. I had no plans to rip/copy your movie. Now I'm out $22 for nothing.

WTH?

Sounds like you should sue.
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Contagion has BD plus picture scrambling that slysoft and PowerDVD 11 Ultra cannot fix. I was able to play the movie on my PS3. At least it did not break PowerDVD.

Thanks for the warning. I will not get Twilight: Breaking Dawn.
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Thanks, Hollywood. I had no plans to rip/copy your movie. Now I'm out $22 for nothing.

Well obviously since you have AnyDVD you are a no good thieving pirate. Argh me matey.

Ironically, or not so ironically anymore, breaking your experience by checking for ripping software has done nothing to stop actual pirates from posting rips of the video. Score +1 for no one.
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Just tried the beta of the next Slysoft release. Movie plays, now. Ironic that one needs hacking software just to play a legitimate copy of a movie one has no intention of ripping or copying.

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Score +1 for no one.

Actually this ends up hurting Hollywood. Because now no one will buy this disc who might have otherwise bought it. If anything, imo, it pushes people into piracy and away from the hassle of buying these ridiculous discs.
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I was just trying to play Contagion, not rip it.

I don't expect a commercial BD disk to inspect my system and decide if I have software it doesn't like and make my software inoperable.
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So I guess the moral here is: don't put retail discs in your system, they could damage it. If you need to watch something, get a pirated version, as it's likely had any malicious code stripped out.

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I was just trying to play Contagion, not rip it.

I don't expect a commercial BD disk to inspect my system and decide if I have software it doesn't like and make my software inoperable.

EXACTLY. All this does is make us want to get a pirated copy just so we know the movie we paid for will play on our system.

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Some new drm? Sigh

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Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Some new drm? Sigh

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Agree. Oorah!
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Seconded!!

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Interesting stuff. Just bought that movie for our video library and added it to my server using makemkv - on linux. Looks like their "ripping software seek" code is not cross-platform.
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That happened to me sometime ago with another - Source Code, I think. Rescued by Slysoft.

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I was just trying to play Contagion, not rip it.

I don't expect a commercial BD disk to inspect my system and decide if I have software it doesn't like and make my software inoperable.

That was essentially the whole point of BD+, to inspect the system and make sure it isn't compromised:

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BD+ is effectively a virtual machine embedded in authorized players. It allows content providers to include executable programs on Blu-ray Discs. Such programs can:
  • examine the host environment, to see if the player has been tampered with. Every licensed playback device manufacturer must provide the BD+ licensing authority with memory footprints that identify their devices.
  • verify that the player's keys have not been changed.
  • execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise insecure system.
  • transform the audio and video output. Parts of the content will not be viewable without letting the BD+-program repair it.


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Since breaking the encryption on DVD/BDs is illegal in the U.S., there's not much you can do if the disc is checking for AnyDVD.

I will say that I ran into the same issue with another movie and PDVD9 and had to upgrade to PDVD 11 to play it. Cyberlink has stopped supporting PDVD9 and 10 which don't support playing the latest blu-ray spec.

As far as the argument against DRM goes, notice that the disc plays fine in other players. The 0.01% of viewers who are watching on an HTPC have no voice.
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Unless they hit someone in that 0.01% who has the inkling to seek legal recourse. Or with better media connections than mine to create a stir. Sooner or later, that disc or one like it is going to red-flag on a system with no ripping software owned by the daughter of an attorney.

Then the "what are you doing snooping on my daughter's computer" fun will begin.

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Are you new to using AnyDVD? You should check the Slysoft forum for Slysoft related issues. In fact, they already have a forum thread which says they fixed the issue in the next software update. The update should be available shortly. When there's a significant change in the way a movie is protected, AnyDVD provides an update shortly afterwards.

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You should check the Slysoft forum for Slysoft related issues. In fact, they already have a forum thread which says they fixed the issue in the next software update. The update should be available shortly. When there's a significant change in the way a movie is protected, AnyDVD provides an update shortly afterwards.

Yes. See post #5, this thread.

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Thanks

I will watch for the next update of AnyDVD.
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Coincidentally, it just went up. version 7.000

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I just installed version 7

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Yup you can thank BD+ for screwing up your machine.

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Coincidentally, it just went up. version 7.000

Yeah, some very interesting stuff added. The speed thing works great. What I found most interesting was the message from CEO hinting at several new offerings this year. Will we see slyplayer or CloneBd this year?

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Serves you right for wanting to watch a Twilight movie. BD+ was trying to save you.

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Serves you right for wanting to watch a Twilight movie. BD+ was trying to save you.


Lmao!!! Good one!
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Actually this ends up hurting Hollywood. Because now no one will buy this disc who might have otherwise bought it. If anything, imo, it pushes people into piracy and away from the hassle of buying these ridiculous discs.

I'm guessing it also hurts Sony's royalties for buray as some people will just switch back to dvd. You know the funny thing is they teach everyone to be pirates by forcing them to figure out the work arounds. If you remember the DRM on DVDs was cracked so the guy who did it could watch movies on Linux.
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EXACTLY. All this does is make us want to get a pirated copy just so we know the movie we paid for will play on our system.

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Serves you right for wanting to watch a Twilight movie. BD+ was trying to save you.


I have to give you that one.

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Sat down to view the BD version of "Twilight: Breaking Dawn" I'd purchased at a retail establishment. After the previews were over, the disc tossed up a message on the screen that said something to the effect that it found ripping software on my computer and, therefore, wasn't gong to play. That was it. Done. No menus, nothing.

I shut down AnyDVD and tried to re-start the movie, but nothing doing. PDVD 9 won't go past the splash screen, now. And it tells me I might need an update to play the movie. Clicking "yes" or "cancel" does nothing. Just disabling AnyDVD versus exiting the program also does nothing. PDVD won't run, now.

Going down to my theater shortly to see what the damage is and figure out how to fix it.

Thanks, Hollywood. I had no plans to rip/copy your movie. Now I'm out $22 for nothing.

Seriously, I would encourage you to send this information to the Electronic Frontier Foundation. My gut reaction is that imbedding software on a disk to scan your pc for other software may well be illegal, and they are a legitimate group that just might be interested in doing something about it.
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