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Hi all,

I am making a HTPC for the bedroom and sound is the biggest concern.

My parts: Asrock 1155 USB3.0 Sata6G mobo with G630 CPU, Vertex3 120GB SSD, 8GB 1600mhz G.Skill RIPJAWZ DDR.

I intend to use the stock intel cooler, and just set it quiet and allow a slightly higher temp/lower RPM.

I need a quiet case though..

My budget is $100 or less, although I might spend triple if the case was worthy or epic cool.

I was looking at Silverstone, I like the solid front that looks like a power amp.
I just don't know if it's quiet or loud.

Anyone have a quiet Case that will work on a smaller ATX build ?

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There is a Morex 3388 case with a 150W PS. microATX should fit but stock intel fan may not. I am using one with a 120W picoPSU instead and a Delta thermistor controlled fan. It is very quiet. The CPU is a 73W i3-540 with a Dynatron T459 cooler.
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Hi all,

I am making a HTPC for the bedroom and sound is the biggest concern.

My parts: Asrock 1155 USB3.0 Sata6G mobo with G630 CPU, Vertex3 120GB SSD, 8GB 1600mhz G.Skill RIPJAWZ DDR.

I intend to use the stock intel cooler, and just set it quiet and allow a slightly higher temp/lower RPM.

I need a quiet case though..

My budget is $100 or less, although I might spend triple if the case was worthy or epic cool.

I was looking at Silverstone, I like the solid front that looks like a power amp.
I just don't know if it's quiet or loud.

Anyone have a quiet Case that will work on a smaller ATX build ?

If you stick with stock fans, then you probably will not be quiet enough. But don't despair! There are plenty of aftermarket fans and mounts that will make your case whisper quiet. Start here - SilentPCReview.com

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You said cool cases...

http://atechfabrication.com/

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If you stick with stock fans, then you probably will not be quiet enough. But don't despair! There are plenty of aftermarket fans and mounts that will make your case whisper quiet. Start here - SilentPCReview.com

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119250

ANyone have experience with the SILENCIO from Coolermaster?

or this Silverstone ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811163193

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119250

ANyone have experience with the SILENCIO from Coolermaster?

or this Silverstone ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811163193

The Coolermaster has a front 120 and a rear 120 running at 800 rpm which should be pretty quiet. With one pulling and one pushing, you have continued flow through the proper hardware sections.

The Silverstone has 2 80s on the rear and a 120 mount on the back right side and a couple of mounts in the front that can use 80s or 92s. Without adding any fans, the 2 80s will run you negative pressure in the case and draw air in through all the openings. This may or may not give you the airflow you need. I would probably add a 92 up front to make sure the hdds get the cooling they need. Your cooling needs depends greatly on what hardware you're using.

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The Coolermaster has a front 120 and a rear 120 running at 800 rpm which should be pretty quiet. With one pulling and one pushing, you have continued flow through the proper hardware sections.

The Silverstone has 2 80s on the rear and a 120 mount on the back right side and a couple of mounts in the front that can use 80s or 92s. Without adding any fans, the 2 80s will run you negative pressure in the case and draw air in through all the openings. This may or may not give you the airflow you need. I would probably add a 92 up front to make sure the hdds get the cooling they need. Your cooling needs depends greatly on what hardware you're using.

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I am not that worried about heat. I will run a G630 CPU, probably stock intel cooler - with 8GB G.Skill 1600mhz DDR3 PC12800 and on Asrock or Asus Z68 or Z77 Motherboard.

No overclock. Pure HTPC only for a bedroom. No hard drives. A single 120GB SSD only.

Looking for a very quiet PC.

I plan to set the bios so the fans run slow... and it tolerates a bit extra heat before it starts speeding up.

I like the Asus because you can control the fan profile, speed RPM, and temp...

very cool new feature on the Z77.

Short term I will run an Asrock H61... but I have a plan for that when I get the new board.

I just need a case I can keep for a while... for pure HTPC in bedroom with no lights or sound.

I am interested in the SILENCIO. It looks like a winner.
I won't get the silverstone.

I always hated them. They are overpriced.

Also- that postive air pressure BS is crap.

Push pull works better.

You don't need fast fans. You just need enough... working as a team to create air flow.

I would take double fans , push pull.. at slower RPM any day.

Quieter and they move more air.

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anyone else have a quiet PC case?

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Only mini-itx ones

 

 

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Only mini-itx ones

You like that mini stuff huh ?

Smaller is louder in my experience.

Harder to cool and needs higher fan speeds.

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I use this case:
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/prod...px?pid=3370#kf
The monitor bracket is an optional attachment. The case is very quiet, small, and looks like a dvd player. I do have a SSD instead of a typical hard drive, so I'm sure that makes a large difference.

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You like that mini stuff huh ?

Smaller is louder in my experience.

Harder to cool and needs higher fan speeds.

Not necessarily. Here's small, cool and silent. Fanless is the only way to go for a bedroom htpc. Do it yourself and it's cheap too.

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What parts u got inside that ?

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One of the things about mini builds is that if you want them to run quiet, you have to be ok with things running warmer than they would with a larger build. It's ok if it's running 55-60C, this is still well within tolerances, especially if you're talking a little bedroom HTPC where you've just got a CPU, motherboard, RAM and SSD, all pretty rugged parts. I know I had to "let it go" finally and stop trying to put a bunch of fans in everything, stop trying to keep everything as close to ambient temperature as possible.

 

 

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One of the things about mini builds is that if you want them to run quiet, you have to be ok with things running warmer than they would with a larger build. It's ok if it's running 55-60C, this is still well within tolerances, especially if you're talking a little bedroom HTPC where you've just got a CPU, motherboard, RAM and SSD, all pretty rugged parts.

Yeah - Your talking to guy who overclocked 10 CPU's far past the "normal" limit and ran them hot for years.

I am not scared. Certainly not of a $60 CPU burning out.

The higher than normal temps would be a welcomed exchange for quiet.

I have a G630 spare CPU that I was hoping to use.

I have 8GB (4Gbx2 sticks) G.skill RIPJAWS PC12800 (1600mhz) CAS L9

I would like to build on something that will use the 1600mhz (not H61, but Z68 or Z77 - not sure about the new H77??)

I am totally cool with buying a case and PSU. I won't have a optical drive. I will SATA wire it to install windows with case open then remove it.

A single 120GB Vertex3 SATAIII SSD will be the only drive. No HDD's. It will run off a WHS with Flexraid.


I need a single USB port for my wireless remote Lenovo keyboard thing.

I would like to stream all audio and video over HDMI. It will only run 720p for now since the Optoma projector in the bedroom runs 720p native. I will probably upgrade that at some point to 1080p though...

What motherboard? (I tend to like Asus and Asrock best)
What Case?
What PSU?

What else I need?

Advice is appreciated.

(It also does not have to be small. It will go in a closet I converted to an AV rack on floor. There is plenty of room, and I won't see it. But it must be quiet and have few lights. )

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I mentioned the Antec 300 case to you and I still think its an excellent choice since it is going in the closet. Mine has a single tiny blue LED on the front.

It has a 140mm fan and 120mm fan and you may only need the 140mm fan if you use a big cooler like the Hyper 212. You might even be able to go with a passive CPU cooler in this case if you use 2 very large and quiet fans like the 120mm and 140mm and a low watt CPU with the G620.

The best part? Its only $40 shipped right now from newegg. Link
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The Wesena E6 is a little over your budget, but really nice. It has 2 80mm fans that are pretty quiet. I built one a few months ago & I'm real happy with it.

I would skip the optional remote & IR sensor & just get a MCE remote/IR sensor.

http://www.shop.perfecthometheater.c...6-B-w-logo.htm
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I mentioned the Antec 300 case to you and I still think its an excellent choice since it is going in the closet. Mine has a single tiny blue LED on the front.

It has a 140mm fan and 120mm fan and you may only need the 140mm fan if you use a big cooler like the Hyper 212. You might even be able to go with a passive CPU cooler in this case if you use 2 very large and quiet fans like the 120mm and 140mm and a low watt CPU with the G620.

The best part? Its only $40 shipped right now from newegg. Link

http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellS...9-_-04182012_1

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http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellS...9-_-04182012_1

Good choice ?

Holy smokes. Yes, very good choice for $30 shipped. Its a Seasonic.

BTW I have that exact same PSU in my server (Antec 300 case). Quiet as a mouse.
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Also- that postive air pressure BS is crap.

I'm not promoting positive pressure, so I'm not sure what crap you're referring to.

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Yeah, if it's going in the closet you can't beat the Antec 300 + Antec NEO ECO 400W deal at Newegg right now. Wow.

 

 

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Yeah, if it's going in the closet you can't beat the Antec 300 + Antec NEO ECO 400W deal at Newegg right now. Wow.

Ok. Done. Just bought both PSU and 300 case.

For 29$ the PSU seemed good choice. I was originally leaning towards the cooler master 430 watt gold80 for 17$ and the cooler master silencio.

I also have two coplermaster elite cases and for 39$ those are quiet and well built.

But assassin always talking about that PSU and case figured I would spend the little bit extra and try them.

So... Antec case and PSU it is. For those prices it seemed good value so even if I swap them for something else .. I would still use them for something. They won't go to waste

I was going to use my thermaltske armor 10 bay full tower for my server case but I could use the Antec300 for that too.

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I am still going to try a fanless mini build soon

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I'm not promoting positive pressure, so I'm not sure what crap you're referring to.

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I was not saying that at you. My apology. Sorry.

It was directed at the designers and manufacturers. I meant the concept is BS and that Silverstone should have done better.

I have previously seen heat issues with that design. I would rather go fanless in that event.

Basically reading your post made me realize I don't want that case because it is over priced and under performs. Too bad it looks cool... Lol

Your post was both helpful and appreciated. Sorry you took the wrong way.

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I won't have a optical drive. I will SATA wire it to install windows with case open then remove it.

For as much stuff as you build and play around with, you ought to simply cough up $20 and get an external USB DVD drive. You could use it on all your builds and rebuilds and it's a lot easier than opening up the case and hooking up an internal drive every time you want to install or reinstall something.
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It was directed at the designers and manufacturers. I meant the concept is BS and that Silverstone should have done better.


I don't know why you think that. I think it [the positive pressure airflow] works really well. There's a good reason the GD04/05 is one of the most popular HTPC cases there is, and they stay very cool very quietly. The exhaust fans are hardly ever necessary.

By the way, it's more expensive so far but the new Antec 302 is the upgrade of the 300 and has USB 3.0 front ports.
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For as much stuff as you build and play around with, you ought to simply cough up $20 and get an external USB DVD drive. You could use it on all your builds and rebuilds and it's a lot easier than opening up the case and hooking up an internal drive every time you want to install or reinstall something.

I have a USB 3.0 64 GB. It cost me an arm and leg.

But it always is loaded with crap and just seems easier to plug in an optical.

You done it this way ? Faster ? Easier ?

I have been meaning to try it.

I have the USB tool and windows file from Renethx sticky. Is that all I need ? If so I might try it.

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Ok. Done. Just bought both PSU and 300 case.

For 29$ the PSU seemed good choice. I was originally leaning towards the cooler master 430 watt gold80 for 17$ and the cooler master silencio.

I also have two coplermaster elite cases and for 39$ those are quiet and well built.

But assassin always talking about that PSU and case figured I would spend the little bit extra and try them.

So... Antec case and PSU it is. For those prices it seemed good value so even if I swap them for something else .. I would still use them for something. They won't go to waste

I was going to use my thermaltske armor 10 bay full tower for my server case but I could use the Antec300 for that too.

Cool. Thanks guys.

You're going to like the Antec 300 case. Nice looking and well constructed with lots of room. Pretty sweet deal for the case and PSU.
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