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Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 10:01 AM 05-06-2012
Suggest me something...


I have doubles in my music collections I would like to remove.

Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 10:23 AM 05-06-2012
I have been using double killer. I guess I can google and download that again.

Anyone know a better method?
James_stewart's Avatar James_stewart 12:32 PM 05-06-2012
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I have been using double killer. I guess I can google and download that again.

Anyone know a better method?

My music collection is a mess. I'd also like something that auto-organizes music files into folders, downloads cover art, and tags them properly. Does that even exist?
baronzemo78's Avatar baronzemo78 01:28 PM 05-06-2012
Mediamonkey.
James_stewart's Avatar James_stewart 02:30 PM 05-06-2012
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Mediamonkey.

Does this keep the tags and covers within mediamomkey or does it put it on my physical drive so that when I load the music in XBMC it will recognize it?
joemoma's Avatar joemoma 07:32 PM 05-06-2012
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Does this keep the tags and covers within mediamomkey or does it put it on my physical drive so that when I load the music in XBMC it will recognize it?

It can save the images to the tags (part of the music file). Obviously this makes the file a bit larger.
James_stewart's Avatar James_stewart 01:52 AM 05-07-2012
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It can save the images to the tags (part of the music file). Obviously this makes the file a bit larger.

Ok so I downloaded mediamonkey and played around with it for the last 3 hours. How do I gather the metadata for songs with just the name and artist. I figured by now there would be software with a more extensive search than just the Amazon database. More than half the time it couldn't find the album. If I'm doing this for 3,000 without album info, this will take a long time. Is there software that does this better? Maybe one that reads the song itself, like Shazam, and selects the name of the artist, track, album, etc. This would make automation so much easier.
cdru's Avatar cdru 06:46 AM 05-07-2012
Are they identical doubles, as in the same identical file? Or different versions or encodings of the same song?
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 09:50 AM 05-07-2012
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Are they identical doubles, as in the same identical file? Or different versions or encodings of the same song?

I prob have both
joemoma's Avatar joemoma 07:10 PM 05-08-2012
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Ok so I downloaded mediamonkey and played around with it for the last 3 hours. How do I gather the metadata for songs with just the name and artist. I figured by now there would be software with a more extensive search than just the Amazon database. More than half the time it couldn't find the album. If I'm doing this for 3,000 without album info, this will take a long time. Is there software that does this better? Maybe one that reads the song itself, like Shazam, and selects the name of the artist, track, album, etc. This would make automation so much easier.

I don't know of software that can tag songs with just the song name and artist. Many songs are released several times on different albums and often as different versions. I'm not sure how it would know which version you had short of a Shazam like solution. It's a good idea but I don't think it's been implemented yet.
Smitty2k1's Avatar Smitty2k1 08:11 PM 05-08-2012
I would suggest using the program "MP3Tag"

It's constantly being updated and has all of the functionality you would ever want. The learning curve isn't too bad either.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 07:46 PM 05-09-2012
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I would suggest using the program "MP3Tag"

It's constantly being updated and has all of the functionality you would ever want. The learning curve isn't too bad either.

does it auto correct and add the album art ?
Heuer's Avatar Heuer 09:45 AM 05-10-2012
I use this one with great success: http://www.efsoftware.com/d3/e.htm
whipdancer's Avatar whipdancer 01:30 PM 05-10-2012
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Mediamonkey.

I second this. I can name a dozen more people who would third thru twelfth it. I have a large collection of mixed media types (flac, ogg, mp3, wma, mp4) and it handles all of them. It can also convert formats.

For tagging, check out the various add-in's and such - look on the media monkey forums or search for media monkey addin.

You will not find a tool that "does it" for you. There is a tool for iTunes that is very itelligent, but after letting it do samples of a couple thousand songs, I went back to managing it myself.

If you don't mind doing and then redoing - you can do it using multiple passes with different tools.

As far as identifying duplicates - makes sure you have media monkey analyze all of your files. Once it does that, it can generate a hash of the file which can then be used with the other addins to identify duplicates.

~Whip
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 06:27 PM 05-11-2012
media monkey sucks for scraping metadata and album art.

it sucks dirty rotten... you know what.
thefever's Avatar thefever 08:36 PM 05-11-2012
I'll 2nd Media Monkey on the sucking part.

I use MP3tag. Allows for a lot more control over the tagging process. Still tedious for a large collection, however, I setup Media Monkey to auto process/sort etc, and it wrecked my music collection...
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 09:25 AM 05-14-2012
I paid $50 for mediamonkey lifetime - but not happy with it.

Still looking.

There must be a good program out there at managing a music collection and adding in album art and stuff.

Why does media master do it so well for movies... yet nothing is good for music ?
_RT_'s Avatar _RT_ 02:35 PM 05-14-2012
MediaMonkey (if set up properly) does this everytime.

I suppose I should expand....
Album art from:
Amazon
Discogs
(between those two, I get it every time)

You can set up rules so that every file is named the same way. Moved into a folder structure that is consistent across the board. It identifies doubles, inconsistencies in tags, wrong or inconsistent album art, and a LOT more.

It's not the most intuitive program, but if someone is using MP3tag, then they can use MediaMonkey.

Just my .02
whipdancer's Avatar whipdancer 12:18 PM 05-18-2012
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media monkey sucks for scraping metadata and album art.

it sucks dirty rotten... you know what.

You obviously haven't set it up correctly.

There is no "The Solution". It doesn't exist. All media managers are a compromise. With the add-in's available for Media Monkey it comes closest to taking care of "all the crap" I want my tool to do.

The title of this post is "Good "Double Killer" program for a music collection?" - which has absolutely NOTHING to do with metadata scraping. That's not what you asked about. You asked about something that can identify and remove duplicates. Media Monkey does that great. It is a great media manager. It is not a great metadata tagger. It is a decent metadata tagger, if you use add-ins.
MoNkLorD's Avatar MoNkLorD 09:54 AM 05-19-2012
I used mediamonkey and though it works man i have to really sit in front of the PC and hold its hand. I wish that there really was a way to tag from like a shazam like program like mentioned above, i been collecting music on my pc way before ipods and itunes and been saving in the wrong format lol. i dont' think i will ever really have a totally clean music collection. as for double man just countless doubles, best ofs, greatest hits, mixed tapes, man i have music of all genres as well.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 08:02 PM 05-30-2012
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You obviously haven't set it up correctly.

There is no "The Solution". It doesn't exist. All media managers are a compromise. With the add-in's available for Media Monkey it comes closest to taking care of "all the crap" I want my tool to do.

The title of this post is "Good "Double Killer" program for a music collection?" - which has absolutely NOTHING to do with metadata scraping. That's not what you asked about. You asked about something that can identify and remove duplicates. Media Monkey does that great. It is a great media manager. It is not a great metadata tagger. It is a decent metadata tagger, if you use add-ins.

True.

but clearly mediamonkey needs improvement on the user learning curve.

It's not easy to use and does not work well.
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