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Yes, and thanks again for this thread.
I just ordered an 850 watt Seasonic power supply from Newegg. My old server used two smaller PSUs in a Coolermaster Stacker case. The power supply swap out might be all I need to quiet the Supermicro enough for my basement. If not, I'll replace the fans.
Actually, this project will allow me to consolidate two Unraid servers. The original, smaller one (only 7.5 TB) will be swallowed up by three larger drives in the Supermicro. I'll be able to sell both the old servers.
I got my system up and running this weekend and I'm pretty happy with it. I swapped out the PSU and I'm using a modular Antec high efficiency model that I had. That with the 120mm fan wall and near silent 80mm back fans...the thing is almost inaudible. Very happy with that.
The bad part.... My build only has the OS drive and 1 of the bay, along with a Ceton InfiniTV 4 in one of the PCI-E slots. Everything else is stock until I get my 2416s today. So last night I got the Ceton in and installed the drivers. I enabled the network tuners and everything went good. I got my two HTPCs up and running and all was well. That is until 10 minutes later when the HTPC loses signal and it can no longer see the InfiniTV or the network drive from the server. I went downstairs and the server appears to be on power light and network light, but I'm unable to wake it up with the keyboard or mouse (usb). I hard power it down and bring it back up. I go back upstairs and watch TV and 10 minutes later...bam, down again. Same issue with the server. So I go into the bios and check that ACPI ver 3 is enabled and it looks like it's configured correctly. I check the power settings in Windows and hibernate is off and sleep is grayed out?
I didn't find any "wake on usb" and I'm going to assume ACPI takes care of that, but obviously that doesn't get to the root cause of why the server is going into a deep sleep in the first place. Any suggestions or things to look for? It was late and I didn't do a whole lot of messing with it, but I can when I get home tonight. It also won't wake up if I try to access the drive from the network. I get a Microsoft Windows error that the local device name is already in use and it cannot be reconnected?
The CPU fan in the new Supermicro (at least the one I got) is very quiet. You cannot hear it with the top on the case. I left it stock because it wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by likelinus /t/1412640/are-you-looking-for-a-less-expensive-norco-4220-4224-alternative/1200#post_23067837
I got my system up and running this weekend and I'm pretty happy with it. I swapped out the PSU and I'm using a modular Antec high efficiency model that I had. That with the 120mm fan wall and near silent 80mm back fans...the thing is almost inaudible. Very happy with that.
The bad part.... My build only has the OS drive and 1 of the bay, along with a Ceton InfiniTV 4 in one of the PCI-E slots. Everything else is stock until I get my 2416s today. So last night I got the Ceton in and installed the drivers. I enabled the network tuners and everything went good. I got my two HTPCs up and running and all was well. That is until 10 minutes later when the HTPC loses signal and it can no longer see the InfiniTV or the network drive from the server. I went downstairs and the server appears to be on power light and network light, but I'm unable to wake it up with the keyboard or mouse (usb). I hard power it down and bring it back up. I go back upstairs and watch TV and 10 minutes later...bam, down again. Same issue with the server. So I go into the bios and check that ACPI ver 3 is enabled and it looks like it's configured correctly. I check the power settings in Windows and hibernate is off and sleep is grayed out?
I didn't find any "wake on usb" and I'm going to assume ACPI takes care of that, but obviously that doesn't get to the root cause of why the server is going into a deep sleep in the first place. Any suggestions or things to look for? It was late and I didn't do a whole lot of messing with it, but I can when I get home tonight. It also won't wake up if I try to access the drive from the network. I get a Microsoft Windows error that the local device name is already in use and it cannot be reconnected?
I did not try reseating the RAM. I did try reseating the Ceton card. It's just odd that it goes into some weird sleep mode every 10 minutes. I'll try reseating the RAM and other trouble shooting tonight. Good suggestions, thanks.
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I did not try reseating the RAM. I did try reseating the Ceton card. It's just odd that it goes into some weird sleep mode every 10 minutes. I'll try reseating the RAM and other trouble shooting tonight. Good suggestions, thanks.
Got my 2416 and I'll have to update my drivers tonight. I think my mobo revision is 2.1
On another good note, I think I found the culprit for my issue!! The Ceton is plugged into one of the 8x PCI-E slot and I found a setting in the power settings called "Link State Power Management" under PCI Express. It was set to Maximum Power Savings. I changed this to "OFF" and now my HTPCs have been up for the past hour running without the server going down. Yesterday and last night they wouldn't 10 minutes without the server going down. So It appears that this is causing issues with the Ceton having power while trying to send the cable feed to the network tuners.
TAMSolutions is expecting to receive part of a new order of servers tomorrow that should take care of most.... if not all of the people on the current waiting list!
Jason from TAMS told me that the new shipment of servers should be very similar to the Supermicros mentioned in this thread... He will give me more specifics tomorrow when they arrive.
Jason also told me that the new units will go through the same check in and testing procedures of the past... So a slight delay will be necessary to insure that the units are properly working before they are shipped.
These new units will more than likely be sold just as quickly as previous batches... One customer on the last waiting list purchased 16 units for himself!
I will post more detailed updates just as soon as I receive them.
It's gonna be an early Christmas for a lot people really soon!
I just received my invoice for a AMD Supermicro server today. Just processed the payment via PayPal so now I'm just waiting for a tracking number. In the mean time, I'm going to finish going through this thread and taking notes along the way. I've already ordered several bags of screws. FWIW, ProVantage has a better price on them than SuperBiiz. Next step is to see about getting some quieter fans. I'm thinking about making a new fan wall out of plexiglass to accommodate some 120mm fans. I figure I can just cut out circular openings for the fans to allow maximum air flow and then put a wire grate over the opening to keep any cables from getting nicked by the fan blades. I can cut some slots along the bottom to feed the cables through to the backplanes. In any case, I'll have to wait until the server arrives before I make a final decision. I've already got a Corsair 850-watt PSU in my current server that I plan on moving to the new chassis.
FYI - TAMS only sends out e-mails on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I received my initial notification last Thursday and the invoice today even though I responded the same day as their first e-mail. If you're on the list, just sit tight. They should get to you eventually.
I understand that the racks don't come with any dummy plastic drive trays to fill empty slots for proper air flow. I was toying with an idea to remedy this since I don't plan on filling the entire rack right away. You should be able to cut some 1x6 pine boards available from your local Lowes or Home Depot into blocks that will simulate a hard drive and fill the void. I initially thought I could use a stock 1x4 since it's got a nominal dimension of 3/4" x 3-1/2". Problem is, a 3-1/2" hard drive is actually about 4 inches wide so that won't work. If you've got access to a table saw or know somebody that can trim the boards for you, just cut a long plank to the proper width and then cut off short lengths about the same size as a hard drive. You can fasten them to the trays using some small flat head wood screws. I've got some Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and they probably use the same dummy trays as the server. They're about 7/8" thick, but a 3/4" block should be enough. If you're concerned it may not be enough, just place a sheet of corrugated cardboard on one surface to make up the difference. Attach it with double-sided tape, glue, or whatever works for you. You could probably just staple it to the surface if you have a staple gun (don't use regular office staples because they may work loose and cause you all sorts of grief if they get into the server).
My server came with all 24 drive caddies and a bag of screws for attaching them to the hard drives. Right now, it's running just as I received it. The only thing I had to do was set BIOS so that it could boot from my Unraid USB flash drive. I plugged in the Unraid hard drives from my old server (plus a few recycled ones to fill out all 24 bays) and I was up and running. I just got a new Seasonic power supply from Newegg today and will be installing it later in the week, but that may be the only mod I make. It depends on how much the new PS quiets things. This is one SWEET deal!!!
If you've got the right tools it takes very little time. I do a little woodworking on the side so it's the first option that came to mind. I'm sure there are lots of ways to obtain the same result.
This is great news. I've been on the wait list I think since Jan. Just a quick question. What is the difference between Supermicros and original AICs? I can't remember all the things I read near the beginning of the thread. Was one (AICs) for AMD processors and the Supermicros for intel?
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This is great news. I've been on the wait list I think since Jan. Just a quick question. What is the difference between Supermicros and original AICs? I can't remember all the things I read near the beginning of the thread. Was one (AICs) for AMD processors and the Supermicros for intel?
You can get the AMD version with either a dual core or quad core CPU, depending on what they have on hand. What was strange was that the e-mail I initially received from TAMS listed the two types of AMD configurations and the price for each but then they asked me whether I wanted the AMD or Intel version. They never listed anything with the Intel CPU in the e-mail. It wasn't an issue since I wanted the AMD version anyway. What was puzzling to me was that they wanted an additional $50 to go with the quad core CPU when they are available on ebay for far less.
They were sending a standard e-mail message. I got the last Intel server they had because I responded within an hour or so of getting the e-mail. At that point, they had only AMD servers left.
They're PWM fans that can be daisy-chained from a single 4-pin motherboard connector. I don't know if they're in the same category as the Nexus fans, but I don't need them to be dead silent. My current server uses Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and the fans are quite loud, but behind closed doors so I can barely hear them. I recall that I tried swapping out the stock fans with 120mm Nexus fans and the temperature rose significantly so I went back to the original fans. These fans are only $8.55 apiece with free shipping if I order five of them for my upcoming Supermicro server case. They also have fluid dynamic bearings so they should last quite a while. They move more air than the Nexus fans, which is important for keeping the drives cool.
They're PWM fans that can be daisy-chained from a single 4-pin motherboard connector. I don't know if they're in the same category as the Nexus fans, but I don't need them to be dead silent. My current server uses Supermicro 5-in-3 backplanes and the fans are quite loud, but behind closed doors so I can barely hear them. I recall that I tried swapping out the stock fans with 120mm Nexus fans and the temperature rose significantly so I went back to the original fans. These fans are only $8.55 apiece with free shipping if I order five of them for my upcoming Supermicro server case. They also have fluid dynamic bearings so they should last quite a while. They move more air than the Nexus fans, which is important for keeping the drives cool.
I mentioned in my first post.... that I am using these ARCTIC COOLING F8 PWM 80mm which are similar to ones you posted.
Quiet enough for me.
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