When you turn it on and start watching a channel in WMC 7 (64 bit) things look ok, but within a few mins the contrast is flickering like mad. Is this the 59hz bug that everyone is talking about? On my other HTPC with an ATI card all I had to do was disable dynamic contrast. Any pointers on how to eliminate this with an onboard intel chip.
I guess this problem is a real tough one huh? I was hoping by buying a premade system I wouldn't have to deal with it !
The Clarkdale i3 doesn't have this problem (reportedly) but the i3-2xxx does (apparently). The $60 GT 430 video card will fix it, though. That said, I'm only reporting what is shown in the following threads which could be wrong too.
When you turn it on and start watching a channel in WMC 7 (64 bit) things look ok, but within a few mins the contrast is flickering like mad. Is this the 59hz bug that everyone is talking about? On my other HTPC with an ATI card all I had to do was disable dynamic contrast. Any pointers on how to eliminate this with an onboard intel chip.
I guess this problem is a real tough one huh? I was hoping by buying a premade system I wouldn't have to deal with it !
Would you say the same thing if it said New Dell/HP/Apple PC...? At least you know where to look up the specs to his Elite model without him having to post all the details.
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Would you say the same thing if it said New Dell/HP/Apple PC...? At least you know where to look up the specs to his Elite model without him having to post all the details.
Honestly I know assassin knows his ****. Which is why I was pretty surprised to see this issue on an 800 dollar htpc he sold. We did contact support. They responded telling me to contact the manufacturer. I'm not mad, I'm not angry. I need to get this thing working so that the woman factor calms down.
There is a lot of misinformation regarding the 29/59 bug.
According to Microsoft's KB there are two distinct cases in broadcast MPEG that WMC video pipeline will not handle resulting in video playback stutter.
The first case is where the broadcast frequently switches between [correctly flagged] interlaced and progressive content. This is what I would call poorly formed MPEG. The second case is where the broadcast contains content that is actually flagged incorrectly for example interlaced content marked as progressive.
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There is a lot of misinformation regarding the 29/59 bug.
According to Microsoft's KB there are two distinct cases in broadcast MPEG that WMC video pipeline will not handle resulting in video playback stutter.
The first case is where the broadcast frequently switches between [correctly flagged] interlaced and progressive content. This is what I would call poorly formed MPEG. The second case is where the broadcast contains content that is actually flagged incorrectly for example interlaced content marked as progressive.
That's fine if you have an invidia or ati card being used. I've got an intel 2000 chip.
sure I can go buy another 60 dollar card ontop of the 800 i already spent, but I'd rather not if it's just something to uncheck! I'll look again tonight
You can get a $15 card to fix this issue. This is most likely a driver issue for those few channels. As we sell amd and intel based htpcs each have their pros and cons. For me I dont have any channels or providers with the 29 bug.
Just wanted to say that I built my HTPC over a year ago before assassin set up shop and have been quite happy with it. I was trying to set it up before his guides were even written andeven after the guides were published, I considered paying shipping to send it to assassin to have him run through the software but I pushed on using his software guides. It runs great now. Whatever extra you paid for this machine with the software pre-configured is well worth it in time you may have saved.
I find that some, very little actually, of the content I play stutters from time to time. LiveTV content is reported to be more of an issue than streamed content. HBO is further reported to be one of the worst. I haven't played HBO via my tuner because I don't have it in my CableTV package. LiveTV is working great for me when the CableCo can keep my signal strong. Right after switching to CableCARD there was a huge drop in signal which made me think something was up with the CableCARD tuner and I almost gave up on that concept right away but pushed on with it. After Charter fixed whatever was wrong with their signal things have been going great. That said, sometimes Charter's Tuning Resolver cannot find a channel, especially if I am recording. This is something I am working towards resolution on now.
The hardware in assassin's machines is top knotch. The software is about the best available. There are unforseens that come about when you start to apply content to your HTPC. They are not perfect. I've had my Blu-ray player hiccup on more than one occation, and the Uverse STB and/or RG would freeze requiring a power cycle which doesn't even mention the inferior PQ that at&t has on that 2-Wire system.
These things are quirky from time to time but for the most part they are worth it for better quality at a lower price.
All Im asking for is help. I'm not bashing it. I'm reporting my findings. I appreciate the time and $ spent. If I need a 15 dollar card, fine. I was just looking for an answer as to if there was an easy fix.
Good. I was just trying to put your mind at ease. I know that this is a big expenditure but in the long run it will be worth it for the hours of enjoyment that you will get out of it.
We are trying to offer assistance too. There is certain content (not movies, but TV shows) that I playback that is jerky because the i3 doesn't handle 720p content well using the MadVR renderer. I am trying to ferret that out right now without having to add a video card either. I've just started on that adventure too. I may need to add a video card to tackle this one but, like you, am trying to fix it by seeing if some settings can be adjusted to smooth things out.
I am not sure that we setup his HTPC but I am still happy to help. The 29/59 bug is relatively new to me and as none of my channels have the bug I can't test it. I have no problem with people being critical of me or any of the products that I help create and design.
If you are running a business you have to take the good with the bad. Assassin is a big boy and can answer the comments himself. This can only help as customer service is a big part of any business. Would you buy something from a company that never had any negative feedback? That would tell me they are hiding something.
How dare you bash Assassin! He is the best! I suggest you buy his guides to help you! ONLY $20!! This is HIS board, don't be a hater!
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