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A few pics. More over at my blog.

http://assassinhtpcblog.com/

A very cool little build. Very quiet and a pretty interesting form factor. Did I mention that its only 1.85" tall?



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Running about 50-53C using 10% CPU playing 3:10 to Yuma 720p right now.

Not bad for such a little HTPC.
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Holly cow Bat Man is that a tuning adaptor or a htpc eek.gif

Man alive that thing is tiny .

I believe I will need to head over to the blog and get the "skinny"

Nice work as usual cool.gif
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"Core 0 and Core 1" about 4-7 degrees C less than CPU, fwiw.

Looks like 45-53C or so overall. Not bad at all for such a tiny case.
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Noise level?
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Barely audible. I am shocked really. Only 1 small fan in the whole thing.
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I have to guess this thread could have been posted here?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415387/dq77kb-thin-mini-itx
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I have to guess this thread could have been posted here?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415387/dq77kb-thin-mini-itx

Could have.
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Some forums combine like topics to reduce clutter. I guess this one doesn't.
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my mom came over saw my new htpc, she wants me to build her one! biggrin.gif

Hey Assassin very nice on the new build . hey i just saw new build own server site , having trouble signing in

the server is what im looking for i think. i was wondering how to get 20TB s more. im 1/4 of my collection ripped and loosing space on 2TB fast. (compression is not an answer, i will not stand for that kind of foul language)
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Barely audible. I am shocked really. Only 1 small fan in the whole thing.
Is there room in that case for 2.5" HDD as well as the SSD? Just wondering, as I am about to build a bedroom HTPC and although Recorded TV to iSCSI target on WHS2011 works pretty well, I have seen it "freak out" the Intel 82579V adapter on the server twice (where it was flooding the server with interrupts when there was no network traffic), so I'm still kind of thinking that SSD only for HTPC with LiveTV is a no-go.
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How about a direct link to that on your blog? Or at least a little information as to which tab it is under.

Thanks..

EDIT: NM. First page..

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Is there room in that case for 2.5" HDD as well as the SSD? Just wondering, as I am about to build a bedroom HTPC and although Recorded TV to iSCSI target on WHS2011 works pretty well, I have seen it "freak out" the Intel 82579V adapter on the server twice (where it was flooding the server with interrupts when there was no network traffic), so I'm still kind of thinking that SSD only for HTPC with LiveTV is a no-go.

Yes, holds 2 natively.
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How about a direct link to that on your blog? Or at least a little information as to which tab it is under.
Thanks..

Home page. scroll down for about 2 seconds.
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Do you have part numbers for the case and heat sync?

EDIT: Again.. NM!!

I thought the "Thermal Solution" was thermal paste but it is the heat sync.

Interesting build.

Probably a little bit more spendy than your typical build I would think being as it is all intel and lian li.

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What Power Supply did you use?

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I used this one: http://www.mini-box.com/19v-8-4A-160-Watt-AC-DC-Power-Adapter

It takes a non-conventional power brick connection.

The cool thing about the board is that its actually the opposite from most motherboards. Instead of the PSU or Pico supplying the peripherals (like the SSD) the motherboard has a power SATA connection that then connects to the SSD Power SATA. So the end result is that the motherboard supplies power to your hard drives.

Pretty cool.
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Yes, holds 2 natively.

I'll bet it might hold three "creatively" ILO natively biggrin.gif

Of course heat could be a factor at that point
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I'll bet it might hold three "creatively" ILO natively biggrin.gif
Of course heat could be a factor at that point

Yes, I think you could move the hard drive cage and possibly fit a 3.5" drive as well. Heat would be an issue.
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Assassin -

Love that build - I checked out the pictures from your blog, but any chance of posting a full parts list?
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Nice. I hope we see more of the thin mini-itx form factor from mobo and case manufacturers.

 

 

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Nice. I hope we see more of the thin mini-itx form factor from mobo and case manufacturers.

Agreed. That has "bedroom HTPC" written all over it.
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You can turn around your fan to the otherside of the heatsink, so it blows out the back vent. That's how I set mine up when I had it together.
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Agreed. That has "bedroom HTPC" written all over it.

It's got my "family room htpc " written all over it tongue.gif . That puppy is full blown and has plenty of horse power to "get er done " !


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You can turn around your fan to the otherside of the heatsink, so it blows out the back vent. That's how I set mine up when I had it together.

It was mounted that way for a reason but you are right , it can be done your way too. I've seen photos both ways
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Do you have part numbers for the case and heat sync?
EDIT: Again.. NM!!
I thought the "Thermal Solution" was thermal paste but it is the heat sync.
Interesting build.
Probably a little bit more spendy than your typical build I would think being as it is all intel and lian li.

Not really to pricey when you factor in what a power house that comes in this tiny package . However , I will admit that the chosen M.B. is well , a bit stout but you have other options as well
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It's got my "family room htpc " written all over it tongue.gif . That puppy is full blown and has plenty of horse power to "get er done " !

You can say that again. I built a PC with the same PC-Q05 case and DQ77KB motherboard but with Core i5-3450S, 16GB DDR3 and Samsung 830 256GB SSD. It does double-duty as HTPC and virtualization rig. Fastest PC in the house. Thinnest one, too. Really amazing performance given the form factor. CPU stays at 40-52C depending on ambient temp and fan speed is steady at 50% (I think around 1200RPM?). Even at 100% fan speed, it's audible but not what I'd consider annoying. Now that affordable mSATA cards have started to become available retail, I'm strongly considering moving the OS to mSATA and just using the 2.5" slots for virtual machines.

If SATA III 6Gb/s isn't a requirement, the DH61AG would net an additional $30-40 savings. I think I've seen H61-based thin Mini-ITX offerings from Gigabyte and ECS, too.
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You can say that again. I built a PC with the same PC-Q05 case and DQ77KB motherboard but with Core i5-3450S, 16GB DDR3 and Samsung 830 256GB SSD. It does double-duty as HTPC and virtualization rig. Fastest PC in the house. Thinnest one, too. Really amazing performance given the form factor. CPU stays at 40-52C depending on ambient temp and fan speed is steady at 50% (I think around 1200RPM?). Even at 100% fan speed, it's audible but not what I'd consider annoying. Now that affordable mSATA cards have started to become available retail, I'm strongly considering moving the OS to mSATA and just using the 2.5" slots for virtual machines.
If SATA III 6Gb/s isn't a requirement, the DH61AG would net an additional $30-40 savings. I think I've seen H61-based thin Mini-ITX offerings from Gigabyte and ECS, too.

I really like it when someone is not afraid to step over the line a tad bit on a build like this . It really lends itself to some new way's of thinking and testing . Nice post and even more ... NICE build cool.gif

I am really impressed with those cpu temps . Are those "loaded" temps ? For example , maybe under a normally intensive htpc activity
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Very nice! You could probably consolidate that even further using a 1U heatsink/fan and have an even smaller case...I have no use for another computer in the house, but that is sufficiently cool that I want one anyway.

Looking at the board a bit closer, it's actually got room for a PCI-E riser, so a discrete video card could be connected (single slot) and still maintain the size of that case. Ugh.. can't afford any more projects for awhile!
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Very nice! You could probably consolidate that even further using a 1U heatsink/fan and have an even smaller case...I have no use for another computer in the house, but that is sufficiently cool that I want one anyway.
Looking at the board a bit closer, it's actually got room for a PCI-E riser, so a discrete video card could be connected (single slot) and still maintain the size of that case. Ugh.. can't afford any more projects for awhile!
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Very nice! You could probably consolidate that even further using a 1U heatsink/fan and have an even smaller case...I have no use for another computer in the house, but that is sufficiently cool that I want one anyway.
Looking at the board a bit closer, it's actually got room for a PCI-E riser, so a discrete video card could be connected (single slot) and still maintain the size of that case. Ugh.. can't afford any more projects for awhile!

I'm curious ? How would you put a single slot discrete video card in a case that is 1.85" thick ?
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I'm curious ? How would you put a single slot discrete video card in a case that is 1.85" thick ?

With something like this: http://www.amazon.com/PCI-E-Express-Extender-Extension-Flexible/dp/B008BZBFHS/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343788149&sr=1-11&keywords=pci-e+riser+8x

They are primarily made for use in 1U servers, which are 1.75" high, so it would work here as well. You'd need to have a case that actually has the supports and cutout on the back, like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811152222
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