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post #1 of 54 Old 09-11-2012, 03:27 PM - Thread Starter
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NEXT UNIT OF COMPUTING

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NUC is a new form factor from Intel targeted towards office and home theater users alike. It consists of a fully featured PCB regardless of the size. The price currently is set at $399 for the reference version and will be available later this year. I am personally really excited about this. The small form factor makes for an excellent HTPC when connected to a NAS. More information will be added to the thread as they become available. The specs currently are as follows.

Specs
  • 4*4 motherboard
  • Core i3 mobile with 7-series chipset*
  • Mini-PCIe slot
  • mSATA slot
  • Two SO-DIMM slot
  • Three USB ports
  • Ethernet
  • Two HDMI outputs
  • 40GB mSATA SSD*
  • No OS will be provided
  • Power will be provided through an external AC/DC adapter or internal power supply through a 2-pin header on the motherboard

*not confirmed

There are two versions of the NUC planned :
1. 1xHDMI and 1xThunderbolt (which I guess also works as Mini Displayport for a second display)
2. 2xHDMI and 1xEthernet

This will start shipping in October according to PCWorld
http://www.pcworld.com/article/262259/intel_preps_tiny_next_unit_of_computing_for_october_ship.html


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Nice. DisplayPort. Combined with the Ivy Bridge 4K update and the Haswell's native 4K support, this is gonna be nice.
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Nice. DisplayPort. Combined with the Ivy Bridge 4K update and the Haswell's native 4K support, this is gonna be nice.

It doesn't have display port, but has everything else required for an amazing HTPC.
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It doesn't have display port, but has everything else required for an amazing HTPC.

Yes it does, right next to the HDMI port:
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Interesting, add a 16-lane PCI 3, firewire, 4 SATA headers, and thunderbolt and it could get interesting. I'm almost joking. This really isn't much different from a laptop MB.
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Interesting, add a 16-lane PCI 3, firewire, 4 SATA headers, and thunderbolt and it could get interesting. I'm almost joking. This really isn't much different from a laptop MB.

It's right next to the HDMI port. The little lightning bolt symbol is the Thunderbolt port (which also doubles as a mini-DisplayPort).
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Oops, totally missed the displayport in the pictures. Seems kind of unnecessary in such a small form factor PC.
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I missed that as well. As I look at the images they must be showing different configurations from the bare to enclosed. This does make it a bit more interesting.
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This will start shipping starting in October according to PCWorld
http://www.pcworld.com/article/262259/intel_preps_tiny_next_unit_of_computing_for_october_ship.html
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There are two versions of the NUC planned :

1. 1xHDMI and 1xThunderbolt (which I guess also works as Mini Displayport for a second display)
2. 2xHDMI and 1xEthernet
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There are two versions of the NUC planned :
1. 1xHDMI and 1xThunderbolt (which I guess also works as Mini Displayport for a second display)
2. 2xHDMI and 1xEthernet

Thanks for that. I have updated the OP with this information.
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Thunderbolt + ethernet would be more interesting.

Dual hdmi makes me go "huh?" especially coming from intel.

Displayport is just plain better, and you can integrate it in a way that it will pass hdmi with a $2 dongle instead of an active adapter.

The case also looks like its came from the same place that does the zbox nanos.

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An IR receiver on the front would have been nice as well.
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An IR receiver on the front would have been nice as well.

Awwh that would have been the dream HTPC.
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$399 is a rip. It should be $299 and the SODIMM slots are a deal killer. I'm not going to hunt around for more expensive laptop RAM. For $399 I can pick up a cheapo fairly well loaded laptop with HDMI output anyway.
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$399 is a rip. It should be $299 and the SODIMM slots are a deal killer. I'm not going to hunt around for more expensive laptop RAM. For $399 I can pick up a cheapo fairly well loaded laptop with HDMI output anyway.

Laptop DDR3 is often cheaper than desktop DDR3. Assuming you would only install 4GB (2x2GB), the SODIMM price is $17 instead of $19 for desktop. For 16GB (2x8GB), they are both the same price: $68. Sometimes smaller = more expensive, but for RAM often smaller modules = less material = cheaper. The pendulum swings back the other way if you get into the really niche, super high density modules (that most consumer mobos don't support anyway).

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Some new developments. It will out in December for $300-$320. Has an low voltage i3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6444/intels-next-unit-of-computing-hands-on
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An IR receiver on the front would have been nice as well.
Agreed it really needs integrated IR/CIR.

It does look like there is a USB port in the front so if you can find an ultra low profile USB IR receiver that could work.
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Agreed it really needs integrated IR/CIR.
It does look like there is a USB port in the front so if you can find an ultra low profile USB IR receiver that could work.

I think the whole VESA mount thing is the reason it doesn't have it. I imagine they were aiming for people to mount it out of sight and to control it via smartphone or tablet.
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Want USB 3 and fanless.

Agree on the USB3, but fanless is not needed from an acoustics point of view as from all reports, you have to have your ear right up against it to hear anything.
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Ordered one of these and should be in soon. Ordered a single 8gb stick and a 64gb msata SSD (first time I've ordered a msata drive and wow...tiny...). Came out to about $400.

Can't wait to see what this thing can do.
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would love to know what this thing can do in terms of high bitrate.

Does it come with Windows? Thinking maybe openelec. Love the small form factor.
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would love to know what this thing can do in terms of high bitrate.
Does it come with Windows? Thinking maybe openelec. Love the small form factor.

High bit rate? Maybe take a look at the specs for the Intel HD 4000 graphics.

I don't think it would come with Windows as it is a barebones and doesn't have an included hard drive.
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If it plays a 50GB BD .iso 1:1 encode flawlessly, it won't have a problem with high bitrate videos.
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would love to know what this thing can do in terms of high bitrate.
Does it come with Windows? Thinking maybe openelec. Love the small form factor.

FWIW, the Celeron mobile 847 Intel 2000 HD graphics board I recently tested rendered smoothly all the high bitrate sample videos (see here: http://jellyfish.satch.com/ ) I could throw at it. It played all the "Birds" samples too. CPU usage was always ~20% on the 1.1GHz 847. I can't see the mobile i3 / HD 4000 having any issues if the Celeron / HD 2000 can handle it.

 

 

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If it plays a 50GB BD .iso 1:1 encode flawlessly, it won't have a problem with high bitrate videos.

what about cpu usage using software decoder and not gpu ?

could you test it ?

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what about cpu usage using software decoder and not gpu ?
could you test it ?
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What software decoder did you have in mind? Seems most utilize DXVA nowadays.
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you could try xbmc with software renderer or mpc-hc without gpu decoding

thanks again

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