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Yeah, they're up on the Egg:

 

 
Along with FM2 boards:
 
 
Being a self-admitted AMD fan, I'm def looking forward to building out a Trinity based HTPC in Jan/Feb 2013 timeframe.
 
I've been pretty happy with my Llano based A8-3850 build.
 

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random thoughts

Single threaded worse than a G850. ouch. At least multi-threaded keeps up with i3.

Xbit was able to match discrete 6670 performance by overclocking the CPU, RAM and iGPU.....of course ddr2400 costs double 1866 .

i3/ GT440 or HD6670 I'd guess to be ~15+% faster and slightly more expensive. Typical HTPC cases don't seem to offer much in the way of dGPU ventilation, or at least mine doesn't. That could result in a noisy system with the smallish fans that the budget cards often come with.

The faster, unlocked APUs cost the same as the 65W versions. Downclocking and undervolting the K's should get to 65W.


Edit: picking through the benchmarks, it looks like the i3 doesn't really spread the dGPU gap much without a high end card. 10% with a HD5830 at Anand and 20% with a GTX680 at xbit. A lower end card may be closer.
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No mini-itx motherboards yet.

I wonder if we'll ever see A10-5700 / A8-5500 retail. The Llano 65W offerings with the top end GPU never came to retail.

 

 

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For a straight up, non-gaming, HTPC build I'm still looking forward to seeing how the 65W, A6-5400K does. As an unlocked model it should be able to handle some undervolting/under-overclocking to make it just right for a Mini-ITX box. Will it also unlock disabled cores? Micro Center already has it down to just $69 and AMD has listed a suggested retail of $67 so I suspect it will come down from that.

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Still not worth it. Get a G540 + GT 640 if you want MadVR and more solid 23.976 playback (I know, I know, some don't care about those settings). Otherwise a basic G540 is sufficient from my experience. Its amazing the single threaded CPU performance is still rather crap. I'm happy I didn't wait for Trinity and switched all over my systems over to Intel.
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Anyone have HQV benchmarks for Trinity versus 6670 using current drivers? I wish Anandtech and Tom's would make this comparison when they do the reviews.
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No mini-itx motherboards yet.

This exactly. Any news on upcoming FM2 Mini-ITX boards?
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The only news I've heard is exactly "news" as in "so-and-so announced their new lineup of FM2 motherboards today" but no information on availability. I would think it's a pretty sure bet we'll see the ASRock FM2A75M-ITX here in the US, though it's not shown on their US website. It's not clear if we'll see the MSI or Sapphire. I haven't seen anything from ASUS or Gigabyte and there is nothing on their US websites.

 

 

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Still not worth it. Get a G540 + GT 640 if you want MadVR and more solid 23.976 playback (I know, I know, some don't care about those settings). Otherwise a basic G540 is sufficient from my experience. Its amazing the single threaded CPU performance is still rather crap. I'm happy I didn't wait for Trinity and switched all over my systems over to Intel.

Discrete card doesn't work for every case, most people will just use integrated graphics especially for htpc.
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Wow!

That is a total about face from the last year with llano 65w parts. Instead it is available release week with no obscure vendor or hard-to-find "oem-only" markups on top, did not expect that.

(Try to find an A8-3820 not in a system/below ripoff prices, or a non-pulled A8-3800, good luck)

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Maybe Trinity will be about being able to find 65W CPUs but no mini-ITX motherboards smile.gif.

 

 

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That is a total about face from the last year with llano 65w parts. Instead it is available release week with no obscure vendor or hard-to-find "oem-only" markups on top, did not expect that.

Nah. That just means AMD's learned their lesson. One of the reasons Llano didn't gain much traction was because of release pricing. It became a much more attractive option when they lowered prices. Besides, I recall reading somewhere that AMD (or was it Global Foundries?) did hit a snag manufacturing Llano.
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Maybe Trinity will be about being able to find 65W CPUs but no mini-ITX motherboards smile.gif.

If Intel didn't make their own boards (well contracted Foxconn to manufacture it for them), there wouldn't be Mini-ITX boards available for their products directly after release, either. Normally, I've noticed Intel-branded M-ITX motherboards coming out at the same time or around a month after the CPU/platform release while 3rd party M-ITX boards come out around 2~4 months later.
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Too bad FM1 boards don't work. I wanted the Quad Core 3800 that only came out for testing and not in retail (unless you bought a laptop or desktop with it) The new 65W Quad Cores with better iGPU (though I haven't ran any games on the HTPC yet beyond 16-32bit Emulation) is what I would do, but I just built this sucker, it idles most of the time (NFL Sunday Night Football 1080i, 18%) never goes over 30% usage even watching a BR Rip.

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