lol thanx, I am probably over-killing this. Netflix, ripped movies, surfing the net and Pandora are basically all we use the systems for now anyway. WAF and KAF (10 yr old daughter) is paramount. Daughter is actually pretty handy with the ipad, wife not at all. Would be cool to have a stable system they can be comfortable with, its kinda been that way for a while, but organizing the recorded TV files is probably the only thing we haven't done well lately. It dumps with all the movies as well. sorry, thats really OT). I will never have an Xbox in the house, so extenders aren't really a concern. If there's a front-end similar to or better than WMC, that would be an argument to keep Win 8. . .