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Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 10:47 AM 06-12-2013











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Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 10:56 AM 06-12-2013
I cracked open a Seagate 3TB external drive to rape the HDD from inside. I ended up getting it for $75 from staples:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466530/seagate-4tb-internal-169-99-free-shipping[/quote]




$79 shipped. No tax. U MAD?

$80 for 3TB is $26.66 per TB. biggrin.gif














Very easy to open and close these up.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 10:59 AM 06-12-2013


I got to add another CPU box to my collection biggrin.gif
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:00 AM 06-12-2013
And another SSD box to my collection too:


Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:02 AM 06-12-2013
And some leftover screws to my "leftover screw collection"


Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:04 AM 06-12-2013
All the while I was doing my build I pretended I was cleaning the basement (much much needed !) so the wife would not yell at me and leave me alone biggrin.gif

See exhibit A: (the mess)



Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:07 AM 06-12-2013
I ended up using the Thermaltake case I had used earlier in this thread for my original server (before the Norco) to put the 2600k inside.

That machine is now my new office PC.










Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:17 AM 06-12-2013
Some notes:

The Antec 300 case is crap. I've always said so. I've build 50 PC's in the last 5 years and I know crap when I see it. The fact that this case gets pretended to be the "ultimate" low cost budget mid towers just upsets me greatly.

I've read repeated BS reviews on it, but I can't say I see it the same way as the supporters do. First, my case was defective and I had to swap it out (power button not work). The replacement was then labeled wrong on the wires. Good thing I've build a bunch of PC can can figure out that PLED, Reset, etc... because the labels were just wrong. I had pictures in another thread. That was two strikes.

The worst thing I hate is how easy they scratch and how crappy the finish is on these things.












I am disappointed with Antec 300 (even for $40)

I've only built 2 systems in the case. I was careful and the thing stays in a bedroom closet. It should not be as scratched and banged up as it is with normal use.

In contrast- The Thermaltake case I used to put the 2600k in is over 5 years old. I bought it for a socket 775 Core2 Duo machine gaming machine. It's had 10 builds in it- been taken apart a bunch of times- even used for a server. Carried around from place to place... and the case is near mint. No scratches and considerably more durable than the Antec 300.

I dislike how the Antec is not sprayed on the inside too- giving that feel of cheap sheet metal. The coolermasters use that black powerdercoating to give it a nice feel and fit and finish. The Thermaltake is more polished and thicker in key areas. Even the cheap Rosewill units I have used I favor. Silverstone is much nicer too.. I have use those a bunch of times. Personally I would get a coolermaster or Rosewill for the same $$ next time.
But - it's only a HTPC in a closet so I guess... who cares biggrin.gif
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:22 AM 06-12-2013
It's hard to appreciate how big the Coolermaster Case is.

Here is a shot of all three: (Antec 300 tower case looks small next to a 10 bay full tower Thermaltake Armor; the Antec 300 tower isn't small the Thermaltake full tower is just big. The Armor then looks small next to the Coolermaster wink.gif )





Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:26 AM 06-12-2013
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One thing the Extreme 4 seems to have is (2) HDMI (One is an input)




WTF is up with that ???

Anyone know more specifics on the reason for an HDMI INPUT ???


I have not bothered to read the manual or research it yet.
renethx's Avatar renethx 12:17 PM 06-12-2013
A-STYLE
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Tired of constantly switching devices to connect to your one and only monitor? From now on just connect the monitor to your motherboard, and connect your secondary device to the motherboard's HDMI-In port. With HDMI-In users may conveniently toggle between the computer's screen and the secondary device's screen with a hotkey, or even use their secondary device without powering on the computer.


Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 12:32 PM 06-12-2013
so it is just a pass through ?

That seems like a rather gimmick feature.
Nevcairiel's Avatar Nevcairiel 01:00 PM 06-12-2013
I just have screens with a big collection of inputs so i can just switch on the screen if needed. Indeed seems like a silly feature.
renethx's Avatar renethx 01:32 PM 06-12-2013
Motherboard industry is very competitive. Even a silly feature can be a selling point. smile.gif
Robin Mitra's Avatar Robin Mitra 09:20 AM 06-13-2013
... like asrock dehumidifier settings in BIOS ?
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 11:41 AM 06-13-2013
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... like asrock dehumidifier settings in BIOS ?

I use this feature all the time. It totally removes all the moisture from my basement. rolleyes.gif
amarshonarbangla's Avatar amarshonarbangla 11:51 AM 06-13-2013
Lol what
amarshonarbangla's Avatar amarshonarbangla 12:39 PM 06-13-2013
That could be a useful feature for water cooling.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 01:06 PM 06-13-2013



It is a feature on the new Asrock motherboards.





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That could be a useful feature for water cooling.

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... like asrock dehumidifier settings in BIOS ?

I use this feature all the time. It totally removes all the moisture from my basement.





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Lol what

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Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 12:38 PM 06-14-2013
You guys know I was joking right ? I edited in MS paint those brochures and features to look silly. No one noticed?


Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 12:01 PM 06-15-2013
Anyone seen a good deal on IBM sata card.??? (I need another one)
bryansj's Avatar bryansj 08:55 PM 06-15-2013
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Anyone seen a good deal on IBM sata card.??? (I need another one)
They are $65 right?
amarshonarbangla's Avatar amarshonarbangla 11:31 PM 06-15-2013
Buy a SAS expander instead.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 06:40 AM 06-16-2013
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Buy a SAS expander instead.

Wouldn't I run out of bandwidth ? X8 slot ?

I'll have 16 HDD's off one card? That is 2400MB/sec. Do you think the performance would drop compared to a second sata card?
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 06:47 AM 06-16-2013
Andy_Steb's Avatar Andy_Steb 07:22 AM 06-16-2013

Why not? flash all 10 of them. then sell 9 of them pre flashed for $125 a piece
Nevcairiel's Avatar Nevcairiel 07:42 AM 06-16-2013
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Wouldn't I run out of bandwidth ? X8 slot ?

I'll have 16 HDD's off one card? That is 2400MB/sec. Do you think the performance would drop compared to a second sata card?

X8 PCIe 2.0 has a maximum bandwidth of 4000 MB/s. 4Gbit or 500MB per lane.
Using SAS expanders i would be more worried about the SAS connection from the controller to the expander being saturated eventually, however considering normal HDDs can never reach even SATA2 speeds, running the double amount of drives should not be a problem.
Mfusick's Avatar Mfusick 08:15 AM 06-16-2013
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Why not? flash all 10 of them. then sell 9 of them pre flashed for $125 a piece

I would bother doing this if I could get like 5 pre- orders or some interest from others. I'd hate to get stuck with them.
jsketto's Avatar jsketto 04:50 AM 06-17-2013
I want to start of by saying this thread is the holy grail for htpc server builds...I have been looking for advice on norco racks and flexraid and this has everything I could ever ask for....Great job to all of you guys who contributed to this awesome thread!

I do have a couple of questions that hopefully aren't too far off topic...

Mfusick- What kind of rack are you using for your Norco? Im also tempted to pre-order a m1015 from you but I think it would be more fun to try flashing it on my own

Also, has anyone tried using the Private Cloud feature on Flexraid? I saw it on their website but I wasnt sure about its functionality?

I'm currently deployed and as soon as I get back I will be upgrading my current server which is my old htpc
Current "Server":
Acer Aspire x1200 series
Sans Digital 4 Bay hard drive enclosure x2 (connected to the PC with 2 eSata cords into a RAID card that came with the HDD enclosures)
Seagate Barracuda 3TB x1
WD Green 2TB x4
WD Green 1TB x3


I currently just use Windows XP as a SMB server on the Acer to pump all my videos to my HTPC in the living room...it is completely silent and crazy fast, probably overkill but oh well
HTPC:
Zotac Z68-ITX Wifi
G Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 8 GB x2
Intel i3 2125 (HD 3000 graphics)
Mushkin Chronos 60GB SSD
Streamcom Fanless FC5

I plan on getting a VERY similar set up to the one Mfusick created....a Norco 4224 or 4220 and I will be phasing my old WD Green drives out for new 3-4TB Seagates...I plan on sending pics and updates on my build but it will be another month before i can get started

Couple more questions
- is everyone here using Cat6 to their HTPCs or is anyone using wireless....I wired a couple rooms in my house because i could never get the wireless to work without the occasional stutter
-Is plex really picky about file names...right now im strickly XBMC but i was considering trying Plex for some added streaming, XBMC recognizes everything i have but Ive seen threads about Plex being a pain in the ass with file names when scrapping your media
-Suggestions on a Processor/Motherboard for my soon-to-be Norco build.....I am ok with overkill...but with will just be my wife, daughter, and I using the server...i dont plan on streaming out to other people (http://us.hardware.info/news/35376/computex-asrock-debuts-z87-motherboard-with-22-sata-ports) overkill but tempting haha
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