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Prior to releasing Haswell processors in 2013, Intel will be introducing five significant Ivy Bridge processors for notebooks.


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-ivy-bridge-core-pentium,19572.html



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As seen in a slide from VR-Zone, what makes this CPUs special is the fact that Intel will be dropping the thermal design power of its ULV processors for the first time in several years. While the current lineup is designed for at least 17 watts power consumption, the upcoming dual-core Core i3-3229Y, Core i5-3239Y, Core i5-3439Y, and Core i7-3689Y will be dropping to 13 watts. Intel will even be launching a Pentium dual-core that is rated at just 10 watts.

Don't expect performance monsters with clock speeds between 1.1 GHz and 1.5 GHz, but there are clearly interesting opportunities for innovative Ultrabook designs and we would be surprised if those CPUs did not end up in a microserver design, which calls for CPUs that consume less than 15 watts. These specific Ivy Bridge processors will also come with a technology that will allow system vendors to limit the TDP of the CPUs even further (cTDP). The i-series will then run at 10 watts, and the Pentium at 7 watts.

All five new CPUs are expected to launch in Q1 2013.



http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-ivy-bridge-core-pentium,19572.html



Here are some Specs of current Ivy Bridge 17 watt processors (for comparison to the 10 watt and 13 watt ones in the chart above.)

i3:http://ark.intel.com/products/65697/Intel-Core-i3-3217U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_80-GHz (2 cores/4 threads, 1.8 Ghz, no turbo, HD4000 with 1.05 Ghz max frequency)

i5: http://ark.intel.com/products/65707/Intel-Core-i5-3317U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_60-GHz (2 cores/4 threads. 1.7 Ghz with 2.6 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.05 Ghz max frequency)

i7: http://ark.intel.com/products/65713/Intel-Core-i7-3517UE-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-2_80-GHz (2 cores/4 threads. 1.7 Ghz with 2.8 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.0 Ghz max frequency)

Specs of upcoming 17 watt Ivy Bridge processors:

i5: http://ark.intel.com/products/64903/Intel-Core-i5-3427U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_80-GHz (2 cores/4 threads, 1.8 Ghz, 2.8 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.15 Ghz max frequency)

i7: http://ark.intel.com/products/64898/Intel-Core-i7-3667U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz (2 cores/4 threads, 2.0 Ghz with 3.2 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.15 Ghz max frequency)

Now looking at a cross section of the i5s (both 13 watt and 17 watt):

i5Y 13 watt (low bin): 2 cores/4 threads, 1.5 Ghz with 2.0 turbo, HD4000 with 850 Mhz max frequency)

i5Y 13 watt (high bin): 2 cores/4 threads, 1.5 Ghz with 2.3 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 850 MHz max frequency)

i5 17 watt (current model): 2 cores/4 threads. 1.7 Ghz with 2.6 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.05 Ghz max frequency

i5 17 watt (upcoming model) : 2 cores/4 threads, 1.8 Ghz, 2.8 Ghz turbo, HD4000 with 1.15 Ghz max frequency

The high bin 13 watt i5 compares favorably with the current 17 watt i5, but notice the upcoming 17 watt i5 widens the gap between 17 watt and 13 watt. (The extra four watts really seems to help!)




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WATCHA THINK ABOUT DAT ??????

Wonder if this will cross over and effect future low power HTPC's....

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Where will you buy it from? Never seen those in the wild. And aren't those soldered on the mobo?
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These are laptop parts right? It would be nice if intel would sell laptop Haswell cpu's soldered to an ITX board, but I don't think intel is that concerned about our niche market. I would sure buy one though, that haswell pentium chip would probably do the trick.
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I think mobile CPU in a HTPC would be cool....

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I run dual Paxvilles in my desktop. Should my grill fail, I can slap meat on the heat sinks to cook. It would seem that these new CPUs will take me backward in that regard.
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I think mobile CPU in a HTPC would be cool....

Asrock VisionX uses laptop parts http://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/VisionX%20Series/, with a real GPU. Price is the premium.
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I think mobile CPU in a HTPC would be cool....

As I've said before, I'm hoping my next HTPC is a laptop.
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As I've said before, I'm hoping my next HTPC is a laptop.

Personally I think "small form factor" PC's are a better option for HTPC. It will be interesting to see if the 7W Pentium can pull off HD hulu and HD netflix.
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Personally I think "small form factor" PC's are a better option for HTPC. It will be interesting to see if the 7W Pentium can pull off HD hulu and HD netflix.

Intel is very late to the party, I have ARM Cortex A8 based XBMC extenders using the PowerVR SGX GPU doing precisely this for the last 2 years.

Total consumption 5-15W depending on model.
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but that is not a full blown windows PC...

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but that is not a full blown windows PC...

True. I have full blown PCs as well primarily for MadVR + SVP, I have moved a lot of the functions of a regular HTPC onto Virtual machines running on a server for example PVR and content prep/management.

Once you take the processor intensive parts out of the picture, extenders become viable. XBMC has integrated most of the HTPC features and made it available on other platforms.

ARM improved the performance of their offerings considerably and more importantly opened up the critical portions to HTPC use.

Intel talked about the NUC for about 2 years before releasing it last month, that is too long.

I expect to see the 10W IVB in the NUC, all they need to do is make it a little cheaper, for what they are asking for the NUC, I can build a HTPC using the AMD Brazos platform (that would be a full blown windows machine).
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I've only found one supplier for the i3 SandyBridge mobile mini-ITX motherboard with HD3000 GPU. They want close to $300 for just the motherboard. These are just impossible for mere mortals to find. If you look at the prices on ARK it's no surprise a motherboard would be that expensive.

 

 

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I think Intel is only using 1 or 2 partners, once it gets out to the rest of the ODM's the price hopefully should come down.

I think it is going to be a CPU+Motherboard affair given it is a mobile platform.
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Why not just wait another quarter for Haswell for that sub 10W TDP? Probably be great for ultrabooks wrt battery life, for HTPC....meh. More of an incremental upgrade rather than disruptive tech.
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These are obviously NOT the best new CPUs for 2013...
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These are obviously NOT the best new CPUs for 2013...

Unless they are $2000. wink.gif
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Why not just wait another quarter for Haswell for that sub 10W TDP? Probably be great for ultrabooks wrt battery life, for HTPC....meh. More of an incremental upgrade rather than disruptive tech.

These will be the premium parts meant for tablets, the problem is whether you can buy these retail, if at all, I would not hold my breath waiting.
The NUC is the closest it is going to get in the next 1-2 years.
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I think mobile CPU in a HTPC would be cool....

It is my dream for some OEM to create a HTPC that looks like a MacBook air.
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why ?

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It is my dream for some OEM to create a HTPC that looks like a MacBook air.

Na, not MacBook air. We need one that looks like mac mini.
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Don't do drugs kids. Just don't.

Hey if people weren't high how could apple sell the same thing at three times the price?
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Hey if people weren't high how could apple sell the same thing at three times the price?

*Looks at Apple's 256GB SSD upgrade - $260*

*Looks at real cost of typical 256GB SSD (Samsung 830) - $190*

*Looks at Apple's 16GB RAM upgrade prices - $240*

*Looks at standard 16GB kit - $90*

ROFL.

Company is an overpriced joke. Those prices were taken for an iCrap 27" from the Australian store.
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If that is what you want then here you og:

http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=mac+mini&qpvt=mac+mini&FORM=HURE

Personally I'd like something that looks a little more sexy.
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If that is what you want then here you og:
http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=mac+mini&qpvt=mac+mini&FORM=HURE
Personally I'd like something that looks a little more sexy.

+1

I bought a 2011 Mini with the 6630M as it was cheaper than the Asrock VisionX I was looking at originally, looks really nice in the living room and it does an adequate job as a HTPC.
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I think they use one in this:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444932/4-x-4-x-2-intel-i3-mini-computer-with-dual-hdmi-or-thunderbolt/0_100

IIRC

EDIT - Maybe not. - Intel Core i3 3217U 1.8GHz
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