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Favelle's Avatar Favelle 04:19 PM 12-08-2012
I just built an AM3 x4 965 based HTPC for a friend and it keeps restarting on itself. No overclocking and the RAM, the SSD, and the power supply have all been tested on a different machine for 3+ weeks with no issues.

This is what I get:




And then this message pops up after the computer restarts itself several times:




dksc318's Avatar dksc318 04:24 PM 12-08-2012
Try a different set of RAM.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 05:10 PM 12-08-2012
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Try a different set of RAM.

That's what I was thinking...weird thing is, this RAM works perfectly in a different computer.
dksc318's Avatar dksc318 06:41 PM 12-08-2012
Today's RAM is synchronous, meaning the signals are operating to a clock signal. But nothing in the world can work all exactly at the same time. So while MB A may have a longer delay on line X but MB B may have a longer delay on line Y. Then this set of RAM may met its worst case in that MB. And it seems in your case it works mostly, then it is just a minor incompatibility.

Today's RAM is very cheap, about $1/chip. Manufacturers cannot afford to test them extensively like in yesteryears. This set of RAM may have some weakness too.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 09:22 PM 12-08-2012
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

Today's RAM is synchronous, meaning the signals are operating to a clock signal. But nothing in the world can work all exactly at the same time. So while MB A may have a longer delay on line X but MB B may have a longer delay on line Y. Then this set of RAM may met its worst case in that MB. And it seems in your case it works mostly, then it is just a minor incompatibility.
Today's RAM is very cheap, about $1/chip. Manufacturers cannot afford to test them extensively like in yesteryears. This set of RAM may have some weakness too.

Great info man. I got spare sticks, I'll try that ASAP.
dksc318's Avatar dksc318 09:31 PM 12-08-2012
I've been in Victoria a few times, great place. Greatest was seeing Orcas on a fishing trip.

Tiddles88's Avatar Tiddles88 09:38 PM 12-08-2012
Make sure the mobo has the lastest BIOS and that 965 is supported fully - AM3(+).
Tong Chia's Avatar Tong Chia 10:03 PM 12-08-2012
Memtest if you suspect the memory
http://www.memtest.org/

If the Power service is the one consistently failing, check if your if BIOS has ACPI settings that need to be tweaked.

Windows should also have the latest driver and inf files for the CPU, get those from AMD.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 10:15 PM 12-08-2012
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I've been in Victoria a few times, great place. Greatest was seeing Orcas on a fishing trip.

Yeah, its pretty dynamite. Lived here my whole life. Had the puppy at the beach today and a few seals swam right by us!
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 10:16 PM 12-08-2012
Thanks Tiddle and Tong. I'll check that if these sticks dont work out.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 01:07 AM 12-09-2012
The motherboard is an Asus M5A78L-M LX. It doesn't list the x4 965 on its support list. Seems to only have 95W processors on there. Could that cause the problem?
dksc318's Avatar dksc318 10:23 AM 12-09-2012
Is the 4/8 pin 12V connector plugged in? What is the PSU model?
Karyk's Avatar Karyk 12:01 PM 12-09-2012
If it's hooked to a UPS, try another UPS or just a surge protector.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 08:11 PM 12-09-2012
Nope, tried both UPS, power bar, and directly to the wall. Same results.

Yes, the northbridge is plugged in. This PS was used in a gaming machine with X-fire 7970's for about 3 months.
Tiddles88's Avatar Tiddles88 09:01 PM 12-09-2012
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The motherboard is an Asus M5A78L-M LX. It doesn't list the x4 965 on its support list. Seems to only have 95W processors on there. Could that cause the problem?

Bullseye. That CPU is not supported. Its 125w.
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 12:34 PM 12-10-2012
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Bullseye. That CPU is not supported. Its 125w.

I would think that it wouldn't fire up at all though. Is that a normal error to have for an unsupported CPU?
Tiddles88's Avatar Tiddles88 01:05 PM 12-10-2012
The CPU runs the memory controller in the northbridge so its feasible that you'd see memory errors. Same with the power errors. More info:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1085572/safe-to-run-125w-cpu-on-95w-board
Favelle's Avatar Favelle 03:07 PM 12-10-2012
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The CPU runs the memory controller in the northbridge so its feasible that you'd see memory errors. Same with the power errors. More info:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1085572/safe-to-run-125w-cpu-on-95w-board

Nice! Thanks for the info man! I have an x3 455 I can test on the board, and I also have a new board coming. Thanks man.
Tiddles88's Avatar Tiddles88 03:27 PM 12-10-2012
Swap out a 95w or 45w CPU and see if it works. If it does, you know that's the problem. If you want a cheap AMD CPU, I'd recommend the Athlon x2 260.
Ryan__M's Avatar Ryan__M 11:48 PM 12-10-2012
I'm interested to see how this turns out but I wanted to +1 the RAM concerns. I had a pair of sticks (and not cheap stuff either) that caused me no end of trouble. It would run on memtest for days but then I got random BSODs. I don't know why I hung onto them as they caused a couple computers random fits but finally found a mobo they have been happy on for almost two years. Hardware conflicts can drive you nuts and RAM I think is the worst offender. Give that a try, might be a cheap fix given RAM prices these days.
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