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Lol probably somewhat accurate actually
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WD Red 2TB on sale at Newegg for 89...(best price I have seen yet)

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Looks awesome. I just hope cost is competitive and not excessive.
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WD Red 2TB on sale at Newegg for 89...(best price I have seen yet)

Thanks for this. The Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm drives were on sale over the weekend for $85, was beginning to regret passing it up. I'm now waiting for a 4TB WD Red sale smile.gif

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I don't think there are WD Red in 4TB yet (or they don't sell in europe yet at least)
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ShellShocker today...Red 3TB for 130...not a smokin' deal, by any means, but better than list...
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Looks awesome. I just hope cost is competitive and not excessive.

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WD's Se hard drives, shipping in capacities from 2 TB to 4 TB, (models: WD2000F9YZ, WD3000F9YZ, and WD4000F9YZ) are available through select distributors and resellers. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the WD Se hard drives range from $159.99 to $309.99 USD. WD's Se drives are covered by a five-year limited warranty.
http://www.techpowerup.com/184582/western-digital-announces-wd-se-line-of-hard-drives.html
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I don't think there are WD Red in 4TB yet (or they don't sell in europe yet at least)

Yes, but I am hopeful that someday soon WD will produce one! I'm a big believer in splitting my evils across more than one camp, and currently Seagate outnumbers WD. Unless capacity warrants it I won't be buying more seagate anytime soon.

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ShellShocker today...Red 3TB for 130...not a smokin' deal, by any means, but better than list...

Just bought 6! 2 through Newegg and 4 through Amazon with the same price.
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Just noticed something interesting with the green drives. I had a bluray movie playing while I was copy another. The movie that was playing started stuttering while the copy was going at 60MBps-70MBps sometimes dipping to as low as 40MBps. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Yes. Many times.
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Just noticed something interesting with the green drives. I had a bluray movie playing while I was copy another. The movie that was playing started stuttering while the copy was going at 60MBps-70MBps sometimes dipping to as low as 40MBps. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes, I stopped using the Green Drives because of this.
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Playing multiple movies from the same drive doesn't cause any issues, but a copy job messes everything up.
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Playing multiple movies from the same drive doesn't cause any issues, but a copy job messes everything up.

Right. It's the priority. It seems sometimes the copy paste task is given priority leaving little for the playing movie.

It's the same as simultaneous tasks. WD red and green drives hate multiple copy and paste tasks at same time. Both tasks crush down to a snails pace and take forever.

That's my biggest issue with those drives. The single stream sequential performance is ok - (60-90mb/sec) but if you do a couple streams of copy paste they nearly lock up - and generally the performance of random reads and writes is really horrible. Making serious use painful and slow. That's why I favor the 7200.14- because it just kicks ass real world by comparison.
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Right. It's the priority. It seems sometimes the copy paste task is given priority leaving little for the playing movie.

It's the same as simultaneous tasks. WD red and green drives hate multiple copy and paste tasks at same time. Both tasks crush down to a snails pace and take forever.

That's my biggest issue with those drives. The single stream sequential performance is ok - (60-90mb/sec) but if you do a couple streams of copy paste they nearly lock up - and generally the performance of random reads and writes is really horrible. Making serious use painful and slow. That's why I favor the 7200.14- because it just kicks ass real world by comparison.

Have you tried multiple copy jobs while playing a bluray all on a single Seagate drive?
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Yes. Many times. No issues. The stream plays perfectly. You only need 15MB sec to play a stream... for some reason the WD's drop below that and cause stuttering if your doing too much at once.

The Seagate seems pretty good at splitting the speeds... Usually one thing is faster than others but they all are similar. With WD not so.

My Samsung and Hitachi behave much the same as the Seagates.
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You only need 15MB sec to play a stream...
Or two if you are talking about Blurays (max data rate for a BD is 6.75MBps... 54Mbps)

Not sure what you guys are doing but I can copy to/from a green drive just fine while streaming a bluray disc.

Edit: Just tested the following simultaneous tasks:

Rip BD from client to green drive on server across network.
Stream BD for playback from green drive on server to client across network.
RDP into server and copy file from different drive to green drive locally on server.

There was indeed a glitch in playback for about 3 seconds but then it recovered.
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Or two if you are talking about Blurays (max data rate for a BD is 6.75MBps... 54Mbps)

Not sure what you guys are doing but I can copy to/from a green drive just fine while streaming a bluray disc.

EZRX or EARS?
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I own many of both. Both have the same issues with simultaneous read/writes.

Writing to the drive while playing a movie seems worst of all. But generally the WD greens hate multiple tasks- the performance drops way off into a territory I label "unacceptable"

I do realize I am a bit geeky and more of a power users than some folks- making my gripes with WD GREEN performance not necessarily and issue for other basic users.

What I can say without any hesitation at all is: In the short time I used a WD GREEN for a scratch disc I learned first hand how poor the overall performance was. Upgrading my scratch disc to a RAID0 7200rpm drives is the best thing I ever did.
My typical scratch disk use is tough on drives- and I require performance due to my impatient personality.

For only storing movies and playing them back- there would be no issues.
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EZRX or EARS?
2TB EARS (but see edit above).
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Or two if you are talking about Blurays (max data rate for a BD is 6.75MBps... 54Mbps)

Not sure what you guys are doing but I can copy to/from a green drive just fine while streaming a bluray disc.

Edit: Just tested the following simultaneous tasks:

Rip BD from client to green drive on server across network.
Stream BD for playback from green drive on server to client across network.
RDP into server and copy file from different drive to green drive locally on server.

There was indeed a glitch in playback for about 3 seconds but then it recovered.

Based on your test, I performed my own, no glitches whatsoever:

Ripped a BD to green drive (in the same server)
Streamed an MKV to remote display and extender
Played another MKV on the server

So I did it all again, this time in addition to above copied a few from green to WD red, and the remote display had brief interruptions but quickly recovered.

All are on SATA/6 interfaces.

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Seems consistent with what I am seeing. Ripping + playback = no issues. Ripping + playback + file copy = momentary interruption.
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I should note my current HTPC is still SATA2...so that is most likely why I run into problems sooner.
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I should note my current HTPC is still SATA2...so that is most likely why I run into problems sooner.

Problems with what? Hard drives?
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Seems consistent with what I am seeing. Ripping + playback = no issues. Ripping + playback + file copy = momentary interruption.

I hate to break hearts, but the same tests conducted against Seagate ST4000DM000 produced similar results. I may extend the same set of tests to WD Red and Seagate 7200rpm ST2000DM001 if I get bored over the weekend. I don't expect results to be any different, but my bet would go to the 7200rpm if any were to pass without issue.

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7200rpm I've noticed little issues. I play a movie while copy pasting all the time in my desktop.

I have hitachi 2TB, and Samsung on my desktop (7200rom) in addition to one Seagate. It might be the speed and not the brand.

Either way its a really small problem I could live with.
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I hate to break hearts, but the same tests conducted against Seagate ST4000DM000 produced similar results. I may extend the same set of tests to WD Red and Seagate 7200rpm ST2000DM001 if I get bored over the weekend. I don't expect results to be any different, but my bet would go to the 7200rpm if any were to pass without issue.
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Do you own Seagate's 4TB drive? Did you conduct the test yourself? It stutters?
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