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slosvt's Avatar slosvt 02:27 PM 03-10-2013
With my setup:

Win 7, WMC7 with media browser, shark codes, Intel G1610, Asrock B75-GL, SSD, and 4gb ram

Would i see any audio/visual benefit in using another player?

I have been reading about using MPC-HC, but I am not sure how to get DTS or DTS-HD to pass thru.

I play mainly .mkv thru an internal HDD.

Shark007's Avatar Shark007 02:47 PM 03-10-2013
If you get MPC-HC (lite) from the developer HERE, you do not need to make any changes to player settings what-so-ever. Whatever you have already setup for use in my codec Application(s) will be used by the player, including bitstreamed audio if that was part of your setup. When deciding which player to download from the linked page, EXE files = installer.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 04:17 PM 03-10-2013
Thanks for the suggestion!

I'm getting multi CH on the receiver, so the pc is processing the signal. How can I change this?
Shark007's Avatar Shark007 04:57 PM 03-10-2013
In the Settings Application...
press [Reset All]
select the [x] SUGGESTED settings checkbox
on the Audio TAB, select HDMI in the upper right (dont set anything else, the rest is automated)


I know you stated that you use mainly mkv files, but . . . just in case . . .
For MP4 files, you need to disable the Microsoft Audio decoder on the SWAP TAB
For AVI files, you need to disable the DMO codecs on the SWAP TAB
For M2TS files, you need to disable Media Foundation on the SWAP TAB
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 08:33 PM 03-10-2013
Thank you, it is working correctly now.


Can anyone say if 7WMC, XBMC, MPC, Plex or any other engine would work best visually with my setup?

The HTPC is connected via DVI/HDMI to a Denon AVR 1713, then HDMI to a LG PK500 Plasma.

It does not seem suggested to use MPC-HC w/o an external video card. Thoughts?
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 05:48 PM 03-12-2013
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post

In the Settings Application...
press [Reset All]
select the [x] SUGGESTED settings checkbox
on the Audio TAB, select HDMI in the upper right (dont set anything else, the rest is automated)


I know you stated that you use mainly mkv files, but . . . just in case . . .
For MP4 files, you need to disable the Microsoft Audio decoder on the SWAP TAB
For AVI files, you need to disable the DMO codecs on the SWAP TAB
For M2TS files, you need to disable Media Foundation on the SWAP TAB

One more question... Do your codecs pass DTS-HD?
Shark007's Avatar Shark007 06:15 PM 03-12-2013
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The HTPC is connected via DVI/HDMI to a Denon AVR 1713, then HDMI to a LG PK500 Plasma.
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One more question... Do your codecs pass DTS-HD?

yes.... but,
To send DTS-HD to an AVR for decoding you need to use a HDMI cable directly from the PC to the AVR
renethx's Avatar renethx 06:31 PM 03-12-2013
DVI port -> a generic DVI-HDMI adapter -> HDMI cable supports HD audio bitstreaming (in this case, ASRock B75-GL).
Shark007's Avatar Shark007 07:01 PM 03-12-2013
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

DVI port -> a generic DVI-HDMI adapter -> HDMI cable supports HD audio bitstreaming (in this case, ASRock B75-GL).

Thanks for the hardware clarification renethx.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 07:24 PM 03-12-2013
Thanks again, sounds like Shark codecs and MPC-HC lite are the way to go for me! Ill keep 7MC and Media Browser to make the navigation portion "pretty".

Is there any advantage to me doing further customization (madVR) to MPC-HC without an external video card? It seems like an external video card and an i3+ CPU are suggested for most "advanced" setups.


I just want to make sure I am getting the best AQ/PQ possible with my HTPC setup. I calibrated my TV for a reason! smile.gif
Sammy2's Avatar Sammy2 08:43 PM 03-12-2013
I don't think you will get anything out of madVR with your old(er) dual core processor.
renethx's Avatar renethx 08:52 PM 03-12-2013
G1610 is the latest IVB processor. smile.gif

madVR
Chroma upscaling: Bicubic 50
Image up/downscaling: DXVA2 (equivalent to Lanczos+AR / Catmul-Rom)

is the best choice.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 09:07 PM 03-12-2013
And they are usable with the G1610 and without a discrete video card?
renethx's Avatar renethx 09:13 PM 03-12-2013
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And they are usable with the G1610 and without a discrete video card?

Yes. That's the best choice for iGPU in G1610.
Sammy2's Avatar Sammy2 10:12 PM 03-12-2013
I did not know this. See what happens when I assume.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 05:37 PM 03-15-2013
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

G1610 is the latest IVB processor. smile.gif

madVR
Chroma upscaling: Bicubic 50
Image up/downscaling: DXVA2 (equivalent to Lanczos+AR / Catmul-Rom)

is the best choice.


Thank you kind sir. Things are looking and sounding great. Now I need to validate my calibration to see how much the PS3 video output differs vs. the HTPC.
Sammy2's Avatar Sammy2 05:37 PM 03-15-2013
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

G1610 is the latest IVB processor. smile.gif

madVR
Chroma upscaling: Bicubic 50
Image up/downscaling: DXVA2 (equivalent to Lanczos+AR / Catmul-Rom)

is the best choice.

I have madVR installed. How do I access the Chroma upscaling and Image up/downscaling settings?

Start a video in MPC-HC.
Right Click.
Go to Filters.
Select madVR
Go to Edit Settings.
Go to Scaling Algorithms.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 10:53 AM 05-26-2013
Ive started getting sever stutter using madVr. Any ideas?
Vlad Theimpaler's Avatar Vlad Theimpaler 11:17 AM 05-26-2013
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Ive started getting sever stutter using madVr. Any ideas?

I take this to mean that when you run madVR on a local machine and use it to play a remote file (stored on a 2nd machine, i.e. server) over a network, you experience stuttering during the playback.

If this is the case, then I'd do the following.

First, determine whether or not the problem is due to the network. To do this, create a copy a file that stutters when played over the network, and put it (the copy) on your local machine -- the one running madVR. If the playback still stutters when playing the file locally, then you have an issue with madVR. If the playback is stutter-free, then you have a network issue.

This is where I would start if it was me. What action to take next will depend on the outcome of the above suggestion. I hope this helps to begin resolving your issue.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 08:14 AM 05-27-2013
My HTPC contains a 2tb HDD, so the file is local. frown.gif
Vlad Theimpaler's Avatar Vlad Theimpaler 12:08 PM 05-27-2013
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My HTPC contains a 2tb HDD, so the file is local. frown.gif

Okay, I understand now... I thought in your other post you meant server stutter, but I now know you were actually saying severe stutter.

Since the issue is local, and it just started happening recently, the next question would be... do you do backups of your system with a backup utility -- like Norton Ghost or Acronis, or something similar? If so, try restoring your system to your last saved backup image/snapshot and see if the issue is resolved.

If you do not run a backup utility, you should probably start doing so, because they are invaluable tools for recovering from virtually every software-related issue, from minor headaches like your madVR problem, to major catastrophies like a virus infection.

Even without a backup utility to fall back on, however, you still have another alternative to try and restore your system. Try rolling back your system to an earlier working configuration with Windows Restore Points, which is available natively in Windows 7.

Please keep us posted, and good luck.
slosvt's Avatar slosvt 01:18 PM 06-15-2013
I am not sure what the issue was, but It has been fixed with a clean install of WIndows 8 Pro. Back in business (with madVr)! biggrin.gif
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