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Want to start 3D video editing and rendering, with output as AVC or MKV 1080 to be ripped on BD or directly displayed on my 3D TV from my laptop.

I will use the update also for other 3D design work and was wondering what's the best choice.

For budget reasons I can't buy a new system, so I can only update some components of my current one.
My current setup is Lenovo X220 Win7Pro i5 2520M 2.5 ghz Intel HD 3000 8gb ram 320 gb 7200rpm HDD.

I know I can't update the GPU but its possible to use a eGPU solution such as this http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock or equivalent DIY solutions.

For about the same cost I can have

- GPU GeForce GTX 660/Radeon 7870 or in alternative
- SSD Crucial M4 512 GB

What's the best choice?

Can be better invest less in GPU (maybe GTX 650 Ti or Radeon 7850) and have a hybrid drive?
There are any specific reason to prefer Nividia/ATI? Especially for 3D TV compatibility? I have read some mess with Nvidia 3DVision tech.

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What's software are you using? I would choose GTX 650 Ti (or even 650 vanilla), anything higher could be the same as 650 Ti in performance (depending on the application).
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What's software are you using? I would choose GTX 650 Ti (or even 650 vanilla), anything higher could be the same as 650 Ti in performance (depending on the application).

PowerDirector 10 Ultra for video editing, CryEngine 3 SDK for content creation (not for game content creation, will be used for landscape and acoustic impact modeling).

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I was also considering Nvidia Quadro vs ATI FirePro...does make sense respect GeForce/Radeon?

But really, GPU it's the most important thing or in fact a SSD/hybrid will be the real game changer?

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Will be ATI better than Nvidia for 3D TV rendering support?

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Depends on the software. If there is OpenCL support (such as Sony Vegas), then yes, much faster. Even an HD7750 would beat a mid-range nVidia in that case. With other software, you would notice no difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-/11

You don't want to render to an SSD, but they are great for boot and programs. Is the x220 2 spindle? Can you go with an SSD and a hard drive? I have my old T400 set up that way. I now use it as only a travel backup for the desktop workstation.
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Depends on the software. If there is OpenCL support (such as Sony Vegas), then yes, much faster. Even an HD7750 would beat a mid-range nVidia in that case. With other software, you would notice no difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-/11

You don't want to render to an SSD, but they are great for boot and programs. Is the x220 2 spindle? Can you go with an SSD and a hard drive? I have my old T400 set up that way. I now use it as only a travel backup for the desktop workstation.

My attempt is to create a low cost env for environmental modeling and 3D video editing, using CryEngine 3 SDK (CE3) for the first (following this experience http://www.visasim.ethz.ch/visualization.php) and PowerDirector (PD) for the latter.

I can't find specific suggestions in PD, and respect 3D appear that Nvidia offer a better support for external 3D TV sets respect ATI (compare this list of supported TV http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html with this one http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/3D-displays-compatible.pdf) , what can be a good choice?
I found this (unanswered) post that sum up all my doubts and needs about 3D Does ATI or Nvidia support HDMI 3D without proprietary glasses/hardware?

Right now I'm thinking about GTX660 vs HD 7850/7870

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Reading and reading appear the situation it's a bit complex.

For video editing Intel Quick Sync make some difference, and OpenCL it's the new standard. Support appear to be vary, with some sw benefiting more from CPU than from GPU, some others specialized on workstation gpus such as Nvidia Quadro or ATI FirePro.

I need to balance 3DMark performance for my realtime CE3 design, OpenCL for video rendering, 3D output support to my 3D TV set.

Considering that what can be a "intelligent" choice?

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You are likely to run into major performance issues with an egpu solution.

A desktop Pentium G system is likely to be faster than your laptop i5.

To get a 7850 plus a vidock you are looking at $400. If you have a monitor already then you can build a desktop with a 3570k and forego the video card until later. An FX-8350 might be a good option for you too.
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Can you give me an example of such a conf?

Anyway I will pay around $370 for a DIY conf 7870+PSU+adapter and ... shoe box enclosure smile.gif

From other DIY benchmarks I can expect a x8 boost in 3DMark respect my present conf

I.e http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2747-12-5-dell-e6230-gtx660%40x1-2opt-hd7870%40x1-2-pe4l-ec060a-2-1b.html#post37197

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