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I've been looking on EBay for a IBM M1015 SAS PCIe card that I can cross flash to a LSI 9211 SAS PCIe card. I've found one seller on EBay that has the same card at 3 different prices. I emailed him and he stated that the price differences were due to the cards having different part numbers. Since they are all IBM M1015 cards does the part number make any difference? Are there any new features or bug fixes? Are there any part numbers to avoid? Here are the cards:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-SERVERAID-M1015-ADAPTER-PCI-E-2-0-X8-RAID-CONTROLLER-CARD-46M0861-LOW-P-/310646099133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4853f34cbd for $94

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-SERVERAID-M1015-ADAPTER-PCI-E-2-0-X8-RAID-CONTROLLER-CARD-46M0831-LOW-P-/140950011837?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d1467fbd for $99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-SERVERAID-M1015-ADAPTER-PCI-E-2-0-X8-RAID-CONTROLLER-CARD-68Y7366-LOW-P-/140950011957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d1468035 for $145
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Get the cheapest, they are all the same, flash it to LSI 9211-8i, preferably with no BIOS (if you do not plan on booting with one of the attached drives) this gives you short boot-up times.
I already have 2 flashed in IT mode.
I would buy the first one you posted, but probably they don't ship to Greece.
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I asked this somewhere else but got no response so I'll try here. smile.gif
With no BIOS on the card, how do you see which physical drive is on which port? Does the card pass through drive serial numbers to Windows so you can read them with e.g. HDtune?
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I asked this somewhere else but got no response so I'll try here. smile.gif
With no BIOS on the card, how do you see which physical drive is on which port? Does the card pass through drive serial numbers to Windows so you can read them with e.g. HDtune?

Yes. I don't use HDtune, but passing through my card in ESXi to WSE2012 with FlexRAID I see the serial number listed under the SMART attributes.

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I asked this somewhere else but got no response so I'll try here. smile.gif
With no BIOS on the card, how do you see which physical drive is on which port? Does the card pass through drive serial numbers to Windows so you can read them with e.g. HDtune?

It's no different than a SATA mobo port.

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It's no different than a SATA mobo port.

Except with mobo ports you can follow the cable from the port to the actual drive. Kinda hard to trace the individual leads inside an SFF-8087 cable wink.gif
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It's no different than a SATA mobo port.

Except with mobo ports you can follow the cable from the port to the actual drive. Kinda hard to trace the individual leads inside an SFF-8087 cable wink.gif


Every cable I ever saw was clearly labeled: SATA port 1,2,3 etc...

SAS8087 on one end and the SATA ports on the other. The SATA ends are clearly labeled. Also both SAS ports on the IBM card are labeled. Port 0 and port 1. So basically port 1 is drives 5,6,7,8 ....

I'm not sure why your concerned about this. I find it to be a total non issue.

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I bought the exact item in the first link from the same seller just last week. It flashed fine and is working perfectly (in ESXi even!). I also was wondering why there were several different prices, but I went with the cheapest and it worked!
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Yup. Cheaper is better.

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Sorry to bring it up again, but I found nothing in this forum that can answer my question.
Should I put on eBay my 3 current supermicro aoc-saslp-mv8 cards and buy IBM M1015 SAS cards instead? I saw you guys tried to flash IBM cards in IT mode. Any benifits if you do that comparing to original supermicro cards? Speed? Price? or else? Thanks.
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x8 speed with ports for less $

Works better for ESXi pass thru

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According to IBM the only part number that seems legit is the middle link.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0054.html?Open#m1015
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Get the cheapest, they are all the same, flash it to LSI 9211-8i, preferably with no BIOS (if you do not plan on booting with one of the attached drives) this gives you short boot-up times.
I already have 2 flashed in IT mode.
I would buy the first one you posted, but probably they don't ship to Greece.
I was unable to flash mine. Seems working fine as is. What am I missing?
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I was unable to flash mine. Seems working fine as is. What am I missing?
Where did you grab the instruction? Did you buy the cheapest one?
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According to IBM the only part number that seems legit is the middle link.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0054.html?Open#m1015
All 3 are valid numbers. They just are numbers for different things.

46M0861 is the FRU or FIELD REPLACEABLE UNIT. This identifies components that are functionally equivilent but may not have the exact same design. As products go through their lifecycles and get tweaked, they may have several revisions, circuitry changes, replacement ICs, etc. Two products that have the same FRU are suppose to be interchangeable even if they don't look identical.

46M0831 is a OPTION NUMBER or MARKETING NUMBER. It identifies the option when building a system that originally may have included other components, instructions, etc. While the option number may not change, what it refers to is subject to change over time. This may be on the card, but I don't remember them usually being present back when I dealt with IBM equipment on a daily basis. Usually it was the other two numbers.

68Y7366 is the PART NUMBER. This identifies this exact card and any card of the same exact design.

Or in other words, multiple part numbers may be under a single FRU, and multiple part numbers and/or FRUs under an option number.
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Where did you grab the instruction? Did you buy the cheapest one?
Yeah, the cheapest I've found: IBM SERVERAID M1015 SAS/SATA CONTROLLER P/N: 46M0861 from the upgradebay.com. I don't remember source of the instructions, just googled a few anf they seems pretty consistent to me.
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I just ordered two of these. I have been researching the flash process and can't find out hot to flash to IT mode without a BIOS. Here are the links I have found.

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=803cd3301a8f8705f9259784586d12ac&topic=12767.0
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http://www.servethehome.com/ibm-serveraid-m1015-part-4/

After you flashed ti IT mode did the OS just pick up the drives like a dumb SAS expander? Do you have a bios on your card now?
I am going to use these cards to replace two supermicro expanders that fight with one another.

Thank you very much for your replies
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never mind. I found my answer.

IT firmware = DON'T flash the BIOS, as IT firmware makes the card a dumb HBA
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Crossflash instructions:

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Crossflash instructions:

http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/29059-sas2008-lsi92409211-firmware-files/

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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1438027/planning-to-rebuild-my-20tb-whs-flexraid-server-information-requested/1020_60#post_23440492


Much easier instructions smile.gif

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Crossflash instructions:

http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/29059-sas2008-lsi92409211-firmware-files/

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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1438027/planning-to-rebuild-my-20tb-whs-flexraid-server-information-requested/1020_60#post_23440492


Much easier instructions smile.gif

 

 

 

Great instructions - they worked perfectly!

 

My Win7 64 system recognized the 'flashed to IT mode' M1015 card just fine. However, the MS driver is a few years old. I also got some random errors in my Win 7 system log, so I searched around a bit and installed this driver: LSI adapter SAS2 2008 Falcon StorPort 2.0.63.0 1/29/2013. Thus it far has been working fine. That said, as it was more a shot in the dark, my question is .....

 

What is the recommended Win 7 64 bit driver for an M1015-IT card?

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mine auto installed itself and I just went with that.

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mine auto installed itself and I just went with that.

 

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