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Hello

I’m Hideman and I‘m form Germany. So sry about my bad English.


First of all my Setup:

Hardware:

- AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 2,61Ghz
- 4,0GB DDR2 Ram
- Nvidia Geforce Gt610 1Gb Ram
- Behringer U-Control UCA222 (soundcard)
- Samsung Ue40Es6300 (FULLRGB and 23,976Hz support)

Software:

- Win 7 Prof 32 bit
- MPC HC 1.6.7.7114
With
- Filters:
LAV Splitter
LAV Video
Ffdshow Video(for 1080p "Deinterlacing", "Deband" and "Sharpen")
LAV Audio
Ffdshow Audio

- Reclock


I follow this guide:
http://www.homecinema-hd.com/us/tutorials/windows/htpc/tutorial-htpc-1.html

In may different ways,… (with madMVR GPU overload, avisynth CPU overload)
Btw: Is this a good guide? Are there better alternatives?

But I still have tearing every 20/25sec. frown.gif

Here is a screenshot:


WHY?

I don’t know how this graphs have to look like. But what I can see is that the green line is an indicator for my tearing.

I hope your can help me.
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try this:
use lav video's cuvid decoding if you arent already.
try madvr with dxva for image upscaling and downscaling, and bilinear for chroma.

I have a similar guide here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1357375/advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide
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Cuvid is already checked.

I will give it a try.
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Hey

I folowed your guide. And what can I say it works. THX
Without DXVA

But some question are still there.

Why you leave every box checked by Transform Filters?

And in this guide

http://www.homecinema-hd.com/us/tutorials/windows/htpc/tutorial-htpc-1.html


they recommend to set the primary output color space to YV12 8bit

Why?

And do madVr any sharpening work?
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Your English is better than some who were born with it all their lives (not on avsforum but elsewhere)! Of course you probably took it since you were a kid too, right?

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Oh, for transform filters, it doesn't matter whether they are checked or not as long as lav video and lav audio are set to prefer in external filters.

Well, you want madvr to convert to RGB because it has a higher quality rgb conversion, but nv12 works better than yv12 imo.

Yea, sharpening works, I actually prefer it without the sharpening though.
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Your English is better than some who were born with it all their lives (not on avsforum but elsewhere)! Of course you probably took it since you were a kid too, right?
You’re right :P

That’s how i convict now LAV Video: for the better rgb conversion

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It is OK?

I hope dropped and delayed frames are indicator for tearing, because when they are i have no tearing any more.

The maximum bitrate of a bluray is 40MBit/s or?

Are there any free test videos with a constant bitrate of 40MBit/s? for a stress test

But already thanks great community better than the germans
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for lav video, you don't need to uncheck output formats, lav video will automatically choose the right one.

for stress tests, you shouldn't have a problem with 40 megabit video, the only problem you might have is with 60fps video.
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Hello

I tried this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-watch-gt6-at-60fps

And there are many dropped frames. But I think to know that the most blu ray/ hd stuff is @23,976Hz . So that's ok.

I read that Haali media splitter are better then the LAV once especially with mkv's. Is the difference retainable?

and it is true that this splitter doesn’t support DTS HD MA/ HR and Dolby True HD ? Only the core track? Is there also a way to add this feature like LAV Audio +dtsdecoderdll.dll ?
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no, imo, lav splitter is the best splitter.

I think both splitters support dts-hd and truehd, it is just a matter of having the right audio decoder.
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Your screenshot shows that you have aero/desktop composition disabled. This is the likely culprit.
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This is the likely culprit.

Ok? I thought it's save resources. explain.
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lav splitter is the best splitter.

Ok this is very good.

Do you know any guide to setup/ configure xy-vsfilter ?

And why the hell are the most mpc-hc setup guide posted in anime forums/sites? biggrin.gif

And supports MPCHC 3D Blurays? not SBS (works already very well wink.gif )
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Ok? I thought it's save resources. explain.
Aero/Desktop Composition enables GPU acceleration of the UI, and forces v-sync which should stop tearing with video playback.
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yea, I can't believe i missed that in the pic. This would have solved your tearing problem pretty simply from the start.
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Oh XD

I don't mind. The new configuration is easier to setup and I think it quality is better. So thanks :P

And there is no good setup guide for the xy-vsfilter ?
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there is nothing to set up really. You disable auto load subtitles in mpc hc>options>playback and run the installer for xy vsfilter.
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Ok biggrin.gif Already done. I thought it would be harder.

So then, I have to make the finale check and every think could be clear.


For display configuration:

Are there any free motion blur/ 3D setup/ test videos?

And generally exists a good recommended test pattern suit?

I only knew this:
http://www.lagom.nl
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Hello

I found this very good test pattern suit of yours
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

But the only think I miss is a test video for gamma setup (2,2).

Do you know any good one?
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