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The one remote theory brings to mind the single bullet theory.

This forum has been trying to define a home theater computer for a decade.
The definition might be:
Any device that runs on electricity and has a processor and allows:
1. Choice or manipulation of media sources, and or
2. Choice or manipulation of audio output, and or
3. Choice or manipulation of video output

Anyone else want to take a stab at defining a home theater computer?
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Electronic computational device where the primary function is the display of media from various sources (whether that be on demand content, live content, local content, streaming content, etc)....so pretty much everything from a STB to a Roku to a Chromecast to a SmartTV and everything in between
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smile.gif Good one.
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Anyone else want to take a stab at defining a home theater computer?

That's easy: a computer that is in a theater that is in a home.

The arguments only start once you attempt to define the words "computer", "theater", or "home".
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don't worry, it's only moments until some people come here and explain to you EXACTLY what (they insist) those words mean.
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^ 1) Electronic computational device 2) Area where immersive media consumption is the primary purpose 3) Place where you legally reside smile.gif lol I had to after you post that
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netflix+hulu plus the smart tv..
i know many people who dumps their htpc when they got smart tv..

and to me i regularly visit this forum and reading mostly =)

That would probably work for me, if it weren't for the fact that I record live news events and ballgames, neither of which AFAIK gets put whole on the networks' websites. Streaming is not an option for these purposes, so DVRs and/or WMC it is. smile.gif
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^ 1) Electronic computational device 2) Area where immersive media consumption is the primary purpose 3) Place where you legally reside smile.gif lol I had to after you post that

hehehe

"immersive media consumption". That would be wrong. I don't have to "immerse" myself to call it an HTPC. So there!
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HTPC is a Personal Computer that is used in a Home Theater.
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Since they've never actually sold one at Sears, K-Mart, Best Buy, WalMart or Costco I have to say there is no such thing as a HTPC. For that matter the nearest Amazon comes to one is a couple of Atom based PCs, a Raspberry Pi and a couple of cases. Still no HTPC. See? No such thing. tongue.gif
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For that matter the nearest Amazon comes to one is a couple of Atom based PCs, a Raspberry Pi and a couple of cases. Still no HTPC. See? No such thing. tongue.gif

Does this count? wink.gif

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Ivy Bridge w/Intel graphics? Really?
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The one remote theory brings to mind the single bullet theory.

This forum has been trying to define a home theater computer for a decade.
The definition might be:
Any device that runs on electricity and has a processor and allows:
1. Choice or manipulation of media sources, and or
2. Choice or manipulation of audio output, and or
3. Choice or manipulation of video output

Anyone else want to take a stab at defining a home theater computer?

I would say it's any personal computer that's hooked up to or enjoyed on your home theater system.

Seems simple enough. biggrin.gif

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For that matter the nearest Amazon comes to one is a couple of Atom based PCs, a Raspberry Pi and a couple of cases. Still no HTPC. See? No such thing. tongue.gif

Does this count? wink.gif

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You had to type more than 'HTPC' to find them...rolleyes.gif
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Ivy Bridge w/Intel graphics? Really?

come on man, this is just the sort of response i posted about.

assassin is an extremely knowledgable and helpful poster and his systems by and large seem to focus on simplicity - low power use, quiet, minimalist cases, integrated playback of various media without leaving the frontend. an ivy bridge cpu will play all available consumer media -3d bluray, hulu, compressed mp4s, wtv recordings - you name it. all the goodies are installed - media browser, mkv splitters, etc. it saves on power use and the need for more complex cooling. this is to say nothing of his videophile systems with discrete gpu and madvr installed.

svp and madvr are subjective. you can try to post data or screen shots to show why they are superior, but at the end of the day you are judging the visual quality of something. i can give you data why uncompressed bluray rips are superior to 700mb xvid dvd rips and it sure looks apparent too. but even that is subjective. i bet my mom couldnt tell the difference - she would be too busy complaining about letterboxing.

but this is the point - posters asking questions may have different needs and wants (and budgets) than those answering them. an ivy only pc could have lots of great practical applications if it fits the users needs. it might be way under powered for running a plex server and svp at once. it might be overkill for a playback client and they could use the pentium line instead of the i5 and put the money saved into more hard drives or software plugins.

too often responses come from people bragging about their set ups and/or putting others down for their goals instead of helping understand and then solve their problem within their budget.
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Just worried about the 29/59 issue that my i3 Clarkdale handles with aplomb:

http://experts.windows.com/w/experts_wiki/71.aspx?Sort=MostRecent&PageIndex=1

I have no doubt that otherwise those are fine PCs, and from what I can tell even decent values--very similar to what Apple does. They appear to be nicely built and well equipped with software, and no doubt very nice for the guy who would rather spend money on a preconfigured system (a la Apple) than work it himself.
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29/59 issue is overrated

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29/59 issue is overrated

...says the people who sell systems that don't handle dynamic frame rates like that, no doubt.
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I don't sell anything man. I'm just a nerd that like's HTPC. If I sell something it's used, after I bought it and I usually take a loss on it tongue.gif I pay for everything I own, and I don't work in any field at all related to PC's or IT.
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I don't sell anything man. I'm just a nerd that like's HTPC. If I sell something it's used, after I bought it and I usually take a loss on it tongue.gif I pay for everything I own, and I don't work in any field at all related to PC's or IT.

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Is this some strange attempt to get me to watch the film ? (never seen it) lol.

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No just a strange attempt at humour smile.gif I haven't seen it either. Awesome director but the subject is not something I'm really interested. I have far to many other movies to catch up on. Still sitting on the Hobbit. Wait that doesn't sound good either!
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I agree with a lot of the things said here already. The vast majority have starting caring less about "Quality" of their media and more about "Availability". They want their music on every device no matter where they are, and they really couldn't care less what the bitrate is or if it is lossless. To them, "My mp3 is the same quality as my source material" is their mantra. The decline of the PC/Laptop and the infusion of the Tablet/Smartphone does increase some productivity, but in many ways, as least to a PC user, they are nothing more than an extension, not a replacement, for productivity. Any sort of typical research I need to do would be through a PC, with a keyboard and a mouse.

As far as my personal quality concerns, it depends on the venue. If I am playing music on outdoor speakers, or if I am just watching TV in my bedroom, I could care less if the audio or video is perfect, as long as it is good enough. Netflix, or XM Radio, or Pandora or whatever is fine for those needs. In my theater room, it becomes a different story. I want everything to be source-quality. But it costs a lot of money, and a special sort of personal interest to do something like that. We here who were interested in those things were already a niche', and newer generations seem to have less and less people who care about that level of performance as they have grown up with their ipod and earbuds being the kind of media they are used to having.

Then on top there is the fact that the majority of threads or topics here tend to be "How-To" guides, or construction blogs, or Q&A. After a while, most things have been refined to the point where there is no need to post a question any more. There are enough reviews on enough products, and enough comparisons that it has all been said or done before in one way or another. Sure, there are always new questions, new products, new topics, but over time the amount of information listed here already is enough for almost any new user who searches to find their answers.
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No just a strange attempt at humour smile.gif I haven't seen it either. Awesome director but the subject is not something I'm really interested. I have far to many other movies to catch up on. Still sitting on the Hobbit. Wait that doesn't sound good either!

That movies goes on and on for hours then just ends... with no resolution. Waiting so you can see the next one with it isn't a big deal.
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That movies goes on and on for hours then just ends... with no resolution. Waiting so you can see the next one with it isn't a big deal.

Agree. I liked it mostly due to nostalgia of the other LOTR movies... by itself all of that add-in filler just makes the movie longer and more boring. The best parts were all the parts in the actual book, but I feel no great desire to re-watch it.
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No just a strange attempt at humour smile.gif I haven't seen it either. Awesome director but the subject is not something I'm really interested. I have far to many other movies to catch up on. Still sitting on the Hobbit. Wait that doesn't sound good either!

Magic Mike has Olivia Munn with and without various outfits.

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Ok so Hobbit on hold while I google pictures of Olivia Munn Magic Mike :P
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LOL - I was afraid to click on the thread from work because "NSFW" was all I saw in your post header on the forum.
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LOL - I was afraid to click on the thread from work because "NSFW" was all I saw in your post header on the forum.

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What is NSFW ?

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