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I notice your big thing is budget, power consumption and size.

You can definitely do this with one machine well under £450. The biggest thing is size, you want at 2 -4 hard drives and your not going to stuff that in a Mini Itx.

Also don't get so stuck on the CPU Thermal Design Power (TDP) It does not tell you what your system idles at, which in case will probably be about 20 hours a day. Also take that watt usage number from pc-part picker and throw it in the trash. For example: My 4 core xeon with add-in 8 port sas controller and 5 nics, 10 hardrives a printer and a 12 port switch idles at 110 watts and that is without putting my hard drives going into sleep mode.

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Thanks for the pc specs mate. It seems like a very good build for only £250ish if i include the optical drive too smile.gif . Some questions though :-
1. How would you say it compares to my old htpc processing power and consumption wise?
2. How does it compare to the pre-build systems i posted earlier?
3. Does it have spdif + dts
4. Will it be able to handle 1080p?

Thanks again
2. How does it compare t
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@ Andy_Steb - but whats the full spec of the pc you're recommending?
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1. How would you say it compares to my old htpc processing power and consumption wise?

The G1610 is more efficient and much more powerful.
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2. How does it compare to the pre-build systems i posted earlier?

I am not going to compare it to other systems (that's how we got here in the first place) but let it stand on its own as a very good budget HTPC.
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3. Does it have spdif + dts

Yes -- do you remember how I showed you to look for that?
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4. Will it be able to handle 1080p?

Yes -- as I explained before (perhaps it was in your other thread) any modern CPU with integrated GPU will handle 1080p. The CPU here is powerful enough to do it in software if the software player you use does not support GPU acceleration.

 

 

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Hi rinorho,
Yeah but i bet you're system costs a lot of money... In fact what does it cost?

My file server ( obsolete hardware) has very low cost:

Main board + CPU + RAM + DVD ROM less than €150
In the past I used one free OS software like UBUNTU Server x64 with very good result, but Windows Server 2012 is better!

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@ Andy_Steb - but whats the full spec of the pc you're recommending?




You have to decide if you want one machine or two.

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@ Andy_Steb - I'm all for a one NAS/HTPC solution, but how do i:-

1. Run a safe/secure NAS + Windows system without it messing up...i.e. kids accidently or deliberately messing the pc by downloading some virus onto it.
2. Stop kids from switching it off when it's in-front of them.

If neither is possible, then only a separate NAS and HTPC solution will work. Otherwise please share your wisdom rolleyes.gif

@ Stardogchampion - Thanks very much for clarifying the info mate. Really love it.

Regarding thermaltake case...Reviews say that it's got Airflow issues and components can become heated. Can you shed a light on that? I'm happy to increase upto £340 if the case/psu need changing. Also I've decided to go for the G1620 as it's now cheaper than the G1610! cool.gif
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Well hello again everyone! smile.gif

I think I've done it! Hurray! biggrin.gif


Intel Pentium Dual Core G3220 3.00GHz Socket 1150 3MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor£51.05
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V £31.00
Samsung 840 SSD £76.98
Asrock H77 Pro4-M Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard £65.76
Be quiet! PURE POWER L8 300W


The case will have to be ordered seperately via ebay and it's the one Mfusick recommended (Silverstone Milo ML03B microATX).

I decided against the other cases and against the mini-itx motherboards due to size and the ridiculous costs of going for small sizes. I mean some of the itx cases were the same size as micro-atx cases, lol! The cpu was also recommended my Mfusick and the motherboard was recommended by A9X-308.

Anyway, could you please let me know if this is okay, so that I can place the order today on www.ebuyer.co.uk. Are there any compatibility issues or going to be any problems with the chosen case?

Thanks!
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You have a Haswell CPU with a Ivy bridge motherboard. it won't work.

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Oh i see...so what motherboard shall i go for mate? A9X-308 suggested this motherboard as has 8 Sata ports, 1 for OS, 1 for parity, 6 for media.
Can you recommend a similar spec motherboard on the ebuyer.co.uk or the amazon.co.uk website?

Also is the pc case okay?
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Your case only has room for a SSD and 2 drives so you don't need that many sata ports.

on a tight budget - Asrock B85M Pro4 or switch back to an Ivybridge CPU

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Unfortunately, Ebuyer.co.uk don't sell that motherboard mate, so can you tell me which motherboard this is, so that I can get it from Amazon?

How good is this motherboard as I can't find any reviews?

As said before mate, I'm very unlikely to upgrade as this pc will be used to only watch HD movies and do some general office work etc, therefore no need for big size cases. In fact I'm even thinking of going for this case to further save me some money, as it's small, its got good reviews and fits in either 1 x 3.5" hdd or 2 x 2.5" hdds:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-S011B-Black-Micro-Reader/dp/B0051ZHID6

Yes the space is tight, but so long as it can fit what I have currently chosen then it's cool for me.
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Intel Celeron G1620 Dual Core CPU £38
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V £31.00
Samsung 840 SSD £76.98
Asrock H77 Pro4-M Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard £65.76
CiT Slim Micro ATX Tower with Card Reader with 300W PSU £44
Liteon iHas 124 DVD Writer - £13

TOTAL = £266 INC DELIVERY


Can we please finalise if this is okay? i.e. is everything compatible. I know the case is cheap including psu, but it'll do for now, so long as I can fit in the cpu and stock fan.
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Everything looks fine

I don't know if the case was a preference choice, but another from the same maker (a little wider) could hold more drives. http://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-Knight-Interior-Mesh-Case/dp/B0064KCU44/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1379187837&sr=1-7

If you are planning to have it on display rather than hiding it, then I can see why you'd want the slimmer piano finished case

It looks similar in price/build quality to a case I've used before LINK. It gets the job done just fine, but it is a little flimsy (not a problem, just nit-picking)
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Intel Celeron G1620 Dual Core CPU £38
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V £31.00
Samsung 840 SSD £76.98
Asrock H77 Pro4-M Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard £65.76
CiT Slim Micro ATX Tower with Card Reader with 300W PSU £44
Liteon iHas 124 DVD Writer - £13

TOTAL = £266 INC DELIVERY


Can we please finalise if this is okay? i.e. is everything compatible. I know the case is cheap including psu, but it'll do for now, so long as I can fit in the cpu and stock fan.

 

I would get a single stick of ram so if you ever want to upgrade you can just buy another 4gb stick. I don't know how it is in the UK but Amazon has amazing customer service so I would buy most of my parts there even if you're spending an extra buck or so.

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Thank you guys.

@ Dark_Slayer - That case is way too big mate. Just to give you an idea, this was my previous HTPC Case dimensions. As you can see, it's nothing special, but it's definitely not huge (356x136x338mm).

@ Mrkazador - Good advice. I've now changed to amazon and got rid of the old crucial ram and instead gone for Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Module

Now that we're all happy that these are the components we want to stick with, can you guys please do one final thing and help me find a good slim pc case that can take a micro-atx motherboard. I've seen loads of pc cases on ebay really cheap. Just type "slim pc case" on ebay. Remember so long as the list of parts can fit and maybe an extra drive or two and I don't have any heat issues, then I'm happy...I don't want a bigger case as I really don't think I will ever upgrade it for a long time. The Smaller the Better smile.gif

Oh budget wise upto £50 without psu and £80 with psu.
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Thanks very much mate. I'm going to be very honest and say that I don't like it for it's looks. I'm going to take a gamble and go with the case I've already chosen.
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Hi Guys,

First of all I hope you can forgive me as I have faffed about. I have gone against a lot of advice, but its because I was never happy to settle for something that I wouldn't be happy with, even though much of the advice was sensible. I took 2 steps forwards and 10 steps backward each time and that was wrong of me, so I am very sorry for any mess about.

I have chosen Mini-ITX components, because I could never settle for a bigger case as that was one main reason as to why I wasn't happy with my previous HTPC:-

Intel Box Celeron G1620 2.70GHZ 2C 2T 2M S1155 Processor
Asus P8H77-I Motherboard
Crucial 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Ballistix Sport VLP
Samsung 840 SSD
Coolermaster Elite 120 Advanced Mini-ITX
Be Quiet Pure Power L7 300W PSU
LiteOn iHAS124 24X Internal DVD Writer with SATA

Now that these have been ordered, I need advice on how I can setup my system, so that kids can go on it, but it's protected from them accidently deleting or messing it up. I also want to have windows running, but with NAS capability. Is this possible? If so, how?
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Program power button and Shut down button on the Start menu to Log Off not Shut down.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/change-what-happens-when-you-press-the-power-button-on-your-computer

Set up two accounts. Administrator account for you, user account for the kids.

Restrict access to hard drives.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/8035/how-to-restrict-access-to-drive-in-my-computer-on-windows/

Keep a system image in case they do screw things up.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/back-up-your-programs-system-settings-and-files

NAS capability - You will need to set up network shares. Directions on how to do this can vary greatly depending on what you are doing.

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Thanks Andy. A bit off-topic, but when I used to be at college they used to run Windows and that would block everything off, such as read rights, denial etc, stopping us accidentally or maliciously deleting stuff. Can such a thing be setup at home? If so what software would I need?
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Windows does that under user accounts and permissions

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Thanks Mfusick. The problem with windows is how does one lockdown the machine where important programs and system files are, yet not lock it down so much that someone can't even use applications without occuring errors.

BTW, all items should be here for tomorrow. The motherboard was ordered from scan computers and the rest of the parts from Ebuyer. I would have gone for Amazon, but it either didn't have some of the parts or it was saying for example that the motherboard would take between 1-4 weeks!

Can't wait, so excited.
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Thanks Mfusick. The problem with windows is how does one lockdown the machine where important programs and system files are, yet not lock it down so much that someone can't even use applications without occuring errors.

Start->Run->gpedit.msc Fine-grained access control to everything in Windows.

What kind of locking down are you interested in? Childproofing? Public/semipublic kiosk? Self-idiotproofing?
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Thanks for that EricN.

I want to do one of the following:-

1.Stop kids from downloading and installing ANY software via browsers. For example Toolbars or Google Chrome add ones. My kids on my previous HTPC, constantly downloaded HOTBAR and some SMILEY.

The problem I have with this is that if I block their access too much, then they can't for example play online games or other tasks as everytime it will either ask for a administrator password or it will simply block them from everything.

OR

2. Somehow make their account seperate, so that whatever they do, it does not affect other users on the machine and doesn't mess up the windows file system.

OR

3. Have some sort of a rights system...At college, only the supervisor could make big changes, everyone else was locked out.

OR

4. Block access to windows drive - the problem with this is that if I block access to drive C, then how do they access their documents, photos? Also how can most programs baccess drive C if they are blocked, without user intervention?
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Hi everyone,

Hope your all well smile.gif

I've received all the parts, except ram. So I've borrowed my friend's ram to build the pc until i receive it. I thought that the least I can do is post a pic or two of my build on here to show my appreciation, since you all helped me so much. I've only got one pic for now, but will be posting more soon!



Once again thank you and I'll keep you posted! smile.gif
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