Originally Posted by assassin
Threads like this are the reason why this forum is a shell of what it used to be.
You say this like you are innocent, when in reality you contribute. (that is assuming anyone agrees with you)
You have always had a very narrow and focused concept of what you think HTPC is, and is not. I think the entire segment has just deviated from that. You used to hold in common values what 75% of the other posters did but today the forum and the HTPC category is more segmented and you probably only hold a 30% commonality. You clearly are bitter about this some days, but it's no ones fault. It's evolution.
On the bottom end you get the ultra lower power, ultra small, OPENELEC streamer boxes people try to build for under $100, and on the upper end you get the $1000+ HTPC with 4 cores, Video cards, and a set up to do Jinc3/madvr and 60fps interpolation. Some even trying to do 4k upconversion with 4k resolution projectors or displays. Some people building very robust servers with quad core parts, SSD and running multiple virtual machines on ESXi, others building very high IOPS hardware raid servers, and on the opposite end people buying $300 prebuilt NAS boxes.
HTPC is just more segmented these days, and lots less people need hardware advice. There is little left that is tricky or requires a community of development to work out bugs. HTPC is easy today relatively speaking. While I don't necessarily disagree with you, I think you are not seeing the entirety of the reasons why (or that you are guilty of that which you accuse others)
Most of the forward development in this forum these days seems to be in key critical areas you seem traditionally opposed against. MadVR and high end video rendering is one example. 0-255 hacking/testing/development is another. Also areas like HTPC display and video calibration; SVP frame interpolation, non MS based configurations, Virtual machines and clients, High end hardware builds, HTPC as an AVR processor or video processor, High performance/high capacity media servers.....
There is a lot more to HTPC than just picking out a dual core Pentium vs i3, choosing some modest high value hardware and setting up XBMC to play back movies. <- There is only so much discussion about doing that for so long before it fizzles out.
Every time I see a thread about 0-255 issues, display calibration, high end processing, madvr, SVP, High end hardware builds, or high performance media servers you are no where in sight. The few occasions I do see you it tends to be negative in nature, such as you don't need this, you don't need that etc... I've seen you speak out against madvr rendering, and I am not sure you are even concerned with 6500k display calibration, 0-255 levels or having anything to do with high end builds.
I don't think you like AVS as much these days, and that is evident in your confrontational and sometimes bitter and negative attitude towards certain topics and posters. I think much of the "core" of HTPC that you loved has spread out all over the place in different directions. You've always been pretty mainstream and value oriented in your approach to HTPC, and that's good! But I think there is just generally much less to talk about these days about that. Less interesting or new products. Less interesting or new developments. Less interesting and new software.
Perhaps MB3 Theater will spark up some cool stuff. The theme videos and theme music plugins are killer, and it's a pretty easy way to use MADVR (click, click done
) It's modern, it transcodes, and it uses a server client that can feed Roku, Linux, WMC, MB3T, iOS, and android. That should be somewhat interesting, but I suspect some of the hardcore XBMC users will find fault with something for no other reason than it's different from how they do it now. We will have the bickering there too I guess.
I remember the bickering about SSD is worth it for HTPC. I remember the bickering about HDD's. I remember the bickering about one brand SSD being better choice than another. I remember the bickering about AMD vs Intel or Radeon vs Nvida. I remember the bickering of XBMC vs MB2. I'm sure this forum will survive. Looking back on some of those is almost funny today- where we would passionately argue one SSD was better or worse than another- how one was reliable or another was not- Yet today it matters not. They are highly commoditized and even the "crappy" ones are pretty good (and pretty reliable) making all those threads and arguments pointless. The same will happen here. Just as it happened when we fought that SSD was needed for HTPC or not- and HDD users defended using HDD for HTPC claiming benefits would not be seen in a simple HTPC for playback of video that does not get restarted. (what BS that turned out to be
) Today most use SSD, and most feel it's better (it is). It's just evolution, things change. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.