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post #1 of 72 Old 11-11-2013, 06:54 AM - Thread Starter
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I think that it would be a good idea to have one place where I (and eventually others) can answer questions about PHT and concept chassis.
Instead of answering individually questions by e-mail - I will answer all questions here.
No other brands here, please.

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How do you like this chassis? Dim.: 197x197x80mm.
Full aluminum.
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Looks good!

 

How exactly does the top cover stay connected to the rest of the chassis?


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There are four bolts on the top and four rubber openings in the base. Easy to put cover in and easy to remove it.

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Hello,

some questions:
1) Is the FLM-7-Black chassis available? On the website it says they are "BACK ORDERED".
2) When the short pipes will be available?
3) Since I need a FLM-7-Black with short pipes and want to wait for them to be available, would it be possible to book one and wait the short pipes for finalizing the order?

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Hello,

some questions:
1) Is the FLM-7-Black chassis available? On the website it says they are "BACK ORDERED".
2) When the short pipes will be available?
3) Since I need a FLM-7-Black with short pipes and want to wait for them to be available, would it be possible to book one and wait the short pipes for finalizing the order?

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FLM-7 is available now. Short pipes are in production. I should have them in a month.

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I received TC3 today. First impression: Top quality.
I will test it during the weekend. I am wonder how is going to work without chassis fans. I let you know.
Set of pictures is here

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Do you have any cases for raspi ??

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FLM-7 is available now. Short pipes are in production. I should have them in a month.
That will be too late for me!!! frown.gif
I will need it delivered in NC by 15th of December the latest... Any chance?

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Do you have any cases for raspi ??

Not yet, but working on it.

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That will be too late for me!!! frown.gif
I will need it delivered in NC by 15th of December the latest... Any chance?

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Maybe. Send me e-mail or call me.

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As I mentioned here before current FLM-7/8 chassis have long pipes compatible with CPU located on the left side of MoBo.
For ASRock mobos you need short pipes. We made prototype, I tested it, made correction and we started production. New, short pipes will be compatible with all FLM-7/8 and current FC8 Evo chassis.
You can see short pipes prototype here
Before short pipes are available, you should choose Mobo with CPU on the left side, like Zotac H87ITX-A-E or JetWay JNF9J-Q87.
I hope that I could help you guys.

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I received TC3 today. First impression: Top quality.
I will test it during the weekend. I am wonder how is going to work without chassis fans. I let you know.
Set of pictures is here

I tested this chassis for many hours today.
Mobo: ASRock H81M-ITX
CPU: Intel G3220 3.0GHz
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
150W Pico PSU
I installed WIN7/32 bit and Prime 95/32 bit and started stress test.

Results:
Ambient temperature – 20 ºC (68 ºF)
CPU temp. – 76 ºC
Motherboard temp. – 51 ºC
CPU Fan – 2340 rpm

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What about medium width chassis?
326 x 290 x 100mm (13 7/8 x 11 1/2 x 4")




Short pipes available.
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Do you guys like it?

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I just assembled a FLM-7 Case and I am pretty happy with it.
I just have one problem.
I ordered a 192w PicoPSU kit from Mini-Box.com and unfortunately I realized too lat that it would not work with my case since it's ac/dc adapter is not using a coax 5.5 2.5 connector but a 4 pin mini di connector (see the picture)
Unfortunately the connector doesn't fit in the case. So how can I solve it?
I see several options:
1) I would have to enlarge the hole from 8 to 10 mm and drill the additional side holes for the screws. The problem is that I see it very difficult to be done since I am not a expert. I probably don't have the appropriate tools and I don't want to ruin the case...

2) I change the connector of the ac/dc adapter. The problem I see here is that the cable has 4 wires and it would be difficult to asseble it in the small 5.5 2.5 connector.

3) Similar to 2), but instead of changing the connector, I get a already prepared cable with the 5.5 2.5 connector and connect just the wires of the original cable with the new one.

4) I completely change the dc cable of the ac/dc adapter with a new cable with the 5.5 2.5 connector already attached. To do that I will have to solder the new cable on the ac/dc adapter, but it will require to open up and modify the ac/dc adapter brick.

5) Buy (if it exists) and 4 pin mini DIN female to 5.5 2.5 female connector.

For options 2/3/4/5, is the smaller 5.5 2.5 connector adeguate to work with such ac/dc adapter or will I melt it???

Of course I would prefer option 5 being the easiest, but I couldn't find an approriate connector converter.

Do you see any other options? What would you suggest?

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Do you use any PCI card?
If not - you can drill holes in cover bracket. Bracket is cheap and drilling is easy.

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I found a even better solution smile.gif
I have drilled the motherboard I/O plate which had room for the power connector...


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Smart solution!

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My new build has been ordered. I'm using a PHT FLM-8 chassis with short pipes. I ordered the slim blu-ray drive and a 150 watt PSU and adapter.

CPU: i7-4770s
MOBO: Asrock Z87E-ITX
RAM: Gskill Ares 2x4GB 1600 with a cas latency of 8
SSD's: 2x256GB Samsung 840 Pro which will be setup in RAID 0
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro (I really wanted to try it)

Unfortunately for me I'll probably be sent back into the field before all the parts get here and won't be back for 2-3 weeks so the build will have to wait. I have a Netgear Nighthawk AC router so I'll be able to fully test the transfer speeds of the Asrock AC wifi to my server. And my current open drive on my server is a 7200 rpm not a crappy slow 5400 rpm drive biggrin.gif so no bottleneck there. I'm not using this as a HTPC but as a Main/Music/Download PC.

Also a big thank you to Zygmunt for having the short heat pipes fabricated and ordered for us.
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Short pipes (HP4-110mm) finally arrived. They are compatible with FLM-7, FLM-8, FLS-8 and also Streacom FC8, FC9 and FC-10.

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Guys, how do you like this design?
I call this bookshelf computer. You can put it between books because vents are on the top and on the bottom.




Slot for ODD


Material: All Aluminum
Motherboard Support: Mini ITX
Hard Drive Bays: 1*3.5'+1*2.5'
Optical Drive Bays: 1*Slim slot loading
Dimension: 250*250*160mm(W*D*H)
Available Color: Silver/Black or Customize, Sandblasted finish
USB Ports: 2*USB3.0

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HP4-97 arrived today, so I grabbed FC5, installed ASRock H81M-ITX and checked how new pipes will fit. Look at pictures. CPU socket can be 4÷5 mm closer to wall and it still will be OK.
I don’t have ASROCK Z87E-ITX, but looking at pictures it looks to me, that socket on ASROCK Z87E-ITX is closer to motherboard edge, but just a little, so it should be OK – I think.
HP4-97 are compatible with FLS-3, FLS-4, FLS-7 and FLS-8.

Just look at pictures, please.




I moved bottom plate close to wall ~6mm (total distance 32mm) and still could put upper bracket with no problem. I think that I can assure you that 33mm from wall is safe. So if the edge of CPU mount is at least 14mm from Motherboard edge – you are OK. (It is 19mm from the Motherboard edge on H81M-ITX)



I hope that my info and pictures are helpful.

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Hi Guys

What do you think about this - crazy - concept?





Does anybody like it?

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It's the HTPC garbage can!
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I don't know. These types of designs grow on me sometimes. At the moment I'm not a fan.
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Only 2 USB ports? That would bug me. I struggle with one of my HTPC's only having 4 USB ports. That is limited by the design, which is to make it look like a slim Bluray player on the AV rack.
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It's interesting to look at, but I wonder how easy it would be to repair or modify components.
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Only 2 USB ports? ...........................
Two "front" or "side" ports. You have more USB ports on the back of motherboard.

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Thanks for clarifying; I did think it was a little strange to only have 2.
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Thanks guys for your opinion about cylinder chassis.
What is your opinion about bookshelf fanless chassis? (Shown above in post #21)

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Thanks guys for your opinion about cylinder chassis.
What is your opinion about bookshelf fanless chassis? (Shown above in post #21)

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I like it but I would make the top fully vented with the ability to mount a slim 80mm or 120mm fan (whichever fits). The bottom should be fully vented as well with a filter and have non-slip feet so it can sit a little above the shelf and allow the air intake as well as not slide.

This is coming from my experience building lots of mini-ITX systems. Otherwise, this'll be good only for Atom type systems.

 

 

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